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Tour de France 2011 Official Thread (July 2-24)
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Don't remind me of fantasy stuff, I participate in one for the regional paper (TC Tubantia), and, well, I've not picked wellkottila said:
. You get points for the first 20 in every stage, and on the final day you get points for the first 20 in the GC (double points from the ones you get daily). And you get 10 points for every day one of your 20 wears the yellow. You lose 12 when a rider exits the TdF prematurely. I picked these:Alberto Contador (48 points)
Andy Schleck (31 points)
Jose Joaquin Rojas (101 points)
Fabian Cancellara (3 points)
Samuel Sánchez (39 points)
Jurgen Vandenbroeck (34 points)
Philippe Gilbert (150 points)
André Greipel (49 points)
Robert Gesink (4 points)
Thor Hushovd (164 points)
Levi Leipheimer (4 points)
Bradley Wiggins (1 point)
Ben Swift (0 points)
Cadel Evans (112 points)
Tony Martin (25 points)
Mark Cavendish (77 points)
Damiano Cunego (38 points)
Alessandro Petacchi (26 points)
Roman Kreuziger (11 points)
Alexandre Vinokourov (14 points)
Total: 931 points
Three out. No Voeckler, no Feillu, no Farrar etc.
How I let a friend talk me into Ben Swift I also don't know.
Ours is more complicated with all cylcists having specific roles and you need a certain number of each type, you have a total sum of "money" you can use and you can substitute before each leg. I didn't spend much time on it, so I'm lucky if I'm top 15 000 out of 30 000 participants
Fantasy leagues make me cry. I don't have enough time / will to gather info about rider form e.t.c, so I always go with my gut and hope for the best. Never works out
My picks for this tour:
Andy SCHLECK
Cadel EVANS
Damiano CUNEGO
Juan Manuel GARATE
Tyler FARRAR
Paolo TIRALONGO
Jérôme PINEAU
Fabian CANCELLARA
Nicki SÖRENSEN
Wish I had Gilbert instead of Cancellara.
My picks for this tour:
Andy SCHLECK
Cadel EVANS
Damiano CUNEGO
Juan Manuel GARATE
Tyler FARRAR
Paolo TIRALONGO
Jérôme PINEAU
Fabian CANCELLARA
Nicki SÖRENSEN
Wish I had Gilbert instead of Cancellara.
kottila said:
ahh thank you guys.. guess it´s a little like districts then. The numbers just irritated me.. could not see any logic behind them. Thought about height from sea-level, number of the city/town they drive through.. but the numbers were just to random..
so thanks for the info.
Kabouter said:Awesome win
That was a serious sprint by Greipel, though admittedly a fairly weak one by Cavendish. Figures because lots of his guys were dropped because of Gilbert's actions. Gilbert played a huge part in his teammate's victory here.
Yeah.. you saw Gilbert celebrating when he crossed the finish line.. good work from him.
perryfarrell
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Greipel's a monster. He must weigh 200 pounds
perryfarrell
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http://www.dr.dk/Sporten/Dokumentar/AndySchleck/20110609204022.htm
Cool little tv program about Andy Schleck's training for this year's tour. Mostly in English, subtitles in Danish.
Cool little tv program about Andy Schleck's training for this year's tour. Mostly in English, subtitles in Danish.
Not a spectacular group ahead again today, Perez Moreno, Boom, Grivko, Delage, Valentin, Engoulvent. 2m30 ahead.
Also, what the hell?
Oh, and I want this shirt:
Also, what the hell?
Oh, and I want this shirt:
Kabouter said:
With all the contenders out, alot of the rest of teams talked about how they now had many free riders going for stagewins, but I haven't seen any sign of them sendig more "exciting" people in the breakaways. Everyone is just waiting for the mountains and letting HTC/Lotto control everything
MrOogieBoogie
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So can anyone give me a quick breakdown of the rules in the Tour de France? I've watched a couple of the stages so far but am confused about the significance of certain factors. For instance, how does the event reward individuals and teams as a whole? What's the importance of winning a stage? How is the overall winner determined? And other general rulings.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Tarazet said:
Past couple of days have been on the boring side. I'm so glad the mountains are here at last. Bring on the Pyrenees!
MrOogieBoogie said:
All stages are like mini-races were the winner receives money, honor and points in the overall ProTour-ranking.
There is also a points jersey in the Tour with points being handed out to the top 20-30 of each stage plus at the intermediate sprint.
There is a seperate competition for the best climber with points being awarded for the first to cross hills/mountains.
The one with the best total time of all stages is the overall winner. Those that compete to be the overall winner usually stay in the big pack,watched by their teammates, during non-mountain stages to save energy and stay away from drama.
(there's also a team competition for the best overall time, where top 3 for each team on each stage counts)
NihonTiger90
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kottila said:Tomorrow, the real tour starts
Ooooooooh, Tourmalet is tomorrow? This should be FUN.
TheGoldenGunman
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Get hype! The tour stars for real today!
Always love the first stage of the Pyrenees, it seperates the men from the boys. Time for the sprinters to fall back and let the big boys take centre stage.
Cadel Evans has looked the strongest of the contenders thus far, but with Contador already some way behind, I'm expecting to see an attack from him on the final High Climb later in the day. No doubt Andy Schleck will be glued to his back wheel for the duration of the day too.
I've always thought Schleck has the potential to win the tour, but thus far, I've never really seen him attack a stage and get significantly ahead of Contador. IMO, if he wants to win, he's going to need to show some guts at some point in the mountains. Today will be too early for him to show his hand though, I'm sure he'll wait until later in the tour.
Also, I don't know if any of you have ever tried to ride one of these high climbs in real life, but I can tell you they are absolutely frightening. The gradient is sometimes so steep that if you stop pedalling, you'll start rolling back down the road, even with the brakes on. It's truly incredible that the riders can take on so many climbs and at such a pace over the course of the 3 weeks.
Finally, although it's still a few days away, I think the tour this year will ultimately be settled on stage 19, the legendary climb to Alpe-d'Huez. For me, a Tour de France can only be considered a real tour if that stage is included. I can still remember some of Marco Pantani's incredible rides up that mountain in years gone by. Fond memories!
Always love the first stage of the Pyrenees, it seperates the men from the boys. Time for the sprinters to fall back and let the big boys take centre stage.
Cadel Evans has looked the strongest of the contenders thus far, but with Contador already some way behind, I'm expecting to see an attack from him on the final High Climb later in the day. No doubt Andy Schleck will be glued to his back wheel for the duration of the day too.
I've always thought Schleck has the potential to win the tour, but thus far, I've never really seen him attack a stage and get significantly ahead of Contador. IMO, if he wants to win, he's going to need to show some guts at some point in the mountains. Today will be too early for him to show his hand though, I'm sure he'll wait until later in the tour.
Also, I don't know if any of you have ever tried to ride one of these high climbs in real life, but I can tell you they are absolutely frightening. The gradient is sometimes so steep that if you stop pedalling, you'll start rolling back down the road, even with the brakes on. It's truly incredible that the riders can take on so many climbs and at such a pace over the course of the 3 weeks.
Finally, although it's still a few days away, I think the tour this year will ultimately be settled on stage 19, the legendary climb to Alpe-d'Huez. For me, a Tour de France can only be considered a real tour if that stage is included. I can still remember some of Marco Pantani's incredible rides up that mountain in years gone by. Fond memories!
bobnowhere
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They've really taken a long time to get to the real mountains this time around. I'd love to see Cadel win, but I think the Schleks are now the real threat. They have both lost a little bit of time here and there, but as comfortable as Evans has been, neither Schlek as been troubled either.
Contador doesn't look quite right, maybe the crashes have gotten to him or maybe the Giro or the drawn out drug drama, but it just doesn't look as easy to him as it has in the past. Of course he could easily take 5 minutes off the field without raising a sweat and prove me completely wrong.
I'm picking the Schleks to run 1-2 at the end with either Evans or Contador 3rd. I can't see anyone else really challenging for the yellow. Though I do hope Voekler remains in yellow for at least one more day!
Contador doesn't look quite right, maybe the crashes have gotten to him or maybe the Giro or the drawn out drug drama, but it just doesn't look as easy to him as it has in the past. Of course he could easily take 5 minutes off the field without raising a sweat and prove me completely wrong.
I'm picking the Schleks to run 1-2 at the end with either Evans or Contador 3rd. I can't see anyone else really challenging for the yellow. Though I do hope Voekler remains in yellow for at least one more day!
Feillu has withdrawn with knee problems according to his teams twitter.
Looking forward to seeing how Contadors knee will hold up. He hasn't looked that good so far, but he's claiming it's better know. I'm sure the Schlecks will test him a couple of times up tourmalet. Hopefully the favorites won't just look at eachother untill they reach Luz-ardiden
Looking forward to seeing how Contadors knee will hold up. He hasn't looked that good so far, but he's claiming it's better know. I'm sure the Schlecks will test him a couple of times up tourmalet. Hopefully the favorites won't just look at eachother untill they reach Luz-ardiden
kottila said:
what do you mean by Contador not looking to good..? he almost won a stage.. one of the earliest stages in the race.. that´s normally not something he tries to go for. Andy Schleck hasn´t showed anything yet.. and I think that is because he has nothing to show. He does not look as good as last year. He lacks determination and will.. but maybe he is just putting up a facade..
I´m so fucking freaking exciting about the stages that are starting today..If Jacob Fuglsang is feeling better with his back (he complained about back problems earlier on, when he lost time on Thor in the yellow jersey), I predict he will be going for a win today. I really hope so. I long to see a good danish performance again..
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