Tour de France 2012 |OT| 99th edition (June 30rd - July 22nd)

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Good win by Sagan for sure. He looks like he's going to be a force to deal with for awhile.

Crashes were indeed nasty. They were crazy last year and hope that doesn't become the case again this year. The next few days should be safer.
 
Sagan was hyped before the start of the Tour but i don't think even he would have expected to have won 2 stages by the 4th day. That celebration was pretty funny though!
 
Sagan is a machine on those hilly finishes. Had high hopes for my boy Edvald today, but bested by a strong Sagan.

Crashes were nasty, surprised we didn't get more in the run-in to the last hill, that right hander was crazy sharp, i guess the teams knew how to handle it.
 
Sagan was hyped before the start of the Tour but i don't think even he would have expected to have won 2 stages by the 4th day. That celebration was pretty funny though!

At this pace he might end up at 5 or 6 victories.
 
Being a douche seems to be a thing with sprinters. Cavendish is a huge douche as well.

Well yeah, Cav's douchery goes without saying.

After all of those crashes I'm somewhat surprised that the riders didn't opt for a neutralized finish, like they did in stage 2 of 2010.
 
I find it bs how Wiggins got 'caught up' in Stage 3 crash and didn't lose time. He could on easily avoided that. But then again if he avoided he would of lose 10 secs or more.
 
After all of those crashes I'm somewhat surprised that the riders didn't opt for a neutralized finish, like they did in stage 2 of 2010.
Because this time it was their own fault. The crashes weren't caused by bad track design, but by their general nervosity. It also didn't really matter back then because the winner had already gone over the line,


I find it bs how Wiggins got 'caught up' in Stage 3 crash and didn't lose time. He could on easily avoided that. But then again if he avoided he would of lose 10 secs or more.
Doesn't matter. Anybody who was in the lead group, shouldn't have lost time. Time differences are neutralized at the 3 kilometer point in the case of a crash. I don't quite understand why Cavendish lost time though.
 
Welp.

Hincapie, Leipheimer, Vandevelde, Zabriskie, and Vaughters have all cut deals with USADA to testify that Lance was doping.

Megaton. Not even Lance's army of lawyers can save him now.
 
Sagan is a beast this year. With him dominating the hills and cav the flat sprints, hopefully the mountains will be more open.
 
Best breakaway today. I kind of hope they can do it. Looks like Sagan was involved in that crash.

Damn. Taken with 150m to go.
 
Absolutely nothing happened until the last 3km, then crash and break away caught 150m before the finish.

Starting to get excited for Saturday. My plane leaves in a few hours. The plan is to find some place on Planche des Belles to view the stage. I imagine it'll be crowded.
 
Doesn't matter. Anybody who was in the lead group, shouldn't have lost time. Time differences are neutralized at the 3 kilometer point in the case of a crash..

I know that it does annoys me how he can get away with unclipped and changing his gears like he did crash. It does goes to show you wiggns need to be up the front more.
 
I know that it does annoys me how he can get away with unclipped and changing his gears like he did crash. It does goes to show you wiggns need to be up the front more.

The problem is the crashes are happening at the front of the peloton. If you look at how Sagan got held back yesterday and Cavendish the day before that, these people are in the top 20 of the peloton at that point. The crashes are occuring because all candidates for the yellow jersey are trying to get up front where the sprinters are. Maybe the candidates for the jersey should come together and just end the race at the end of the peloton. They might lose a couple of seconds to the sprinters, but they'd be way safer.
 
Welp.

Hincapie, Leipheimer, Vandevelde, Zabriskie, and Vaughters have all cut deals with USADA to testify that Lance was doping.

Megaton. Not even Lance's army of lawyers can save him now.

Yep. He is pretty much done. They'll drag it out as long as possible but it seems pretty clear that he cheated...

Sucks that Hincapie will have to retire with this cloud hanging over his career. :(
 
Missed the crash which split the pelaton in to two. Damn. Sounds like a dramatic end to the more sprinter-suited stages in the first week.

Frank Schleck in the group left behind :o
 
Missed the crash which split the pelaton in to two. Damn. Sounds like a dramatic end to the more sprinter-suited stages in the first week.

Schleck in the group left behind :o

I can only listen to it via the radio. Who (of the BIG riders) are involved..?
 
I can only listen to it via the radio. Who (of the BIG riders) are involved..?

Schleck, Cavendish, Valverde and Boasson Hagen are the names I've heard who got caught up in the crash but they're still riding in this group two minutes behidn the pelaton. One US rider has had to abandon.

Cancellara, Sagan, Goss avoided it from what I can see.
 
Missed the crash which split the pelaton in to two. Damn. Sounds like a dramatic end to the more sprinter-suited stages in the first week.

Frank Schleck in the group left behind :o
Same, itv always seems to cut to adverts just before a crash. Think I may need to start watching Eurosport more.
 
I can only listen to it via the radio. Who (of the BIG riders) are involved..?

At least Schleck, Valverde, Tony Martin and Boasson Hagen were left behind. Danielson and Asterlosa said to have left the race. Four in total are gone. Gesink is hurt, but still in the first group I believe.
 
And all the good Dutchies we're in the crash and injured and minutes behind now...
Like every freaking year.
 
Welp.

Hincapie, Leipheimer, Vandevelde, Zabriskie, and Vaughters have all cut deals with USADA to testify that Lance was doping.

Megaton. Not even Lance's army of lawyers can save him now.

So here is a question: will they vacate all of Armstrong's 7 wins? And since Ullrich finished second 4 times to Lance and he's been retroactively banned, does he get those 4 wins or do they just vacate them all completely? It's going to be interesting for sure.
 
Yeah, Ryder Hesjedal was caught up in the crash too and looked like he had a bad scrape on his hip after going down. He was the Giro winner this year, so he had a shot at taking the Tour as well. Not any more.
 
Sagan!

So here is a question: will they vacate all of Armstrong's 7 wins? And since Ullrich finished second 4 times to Lance and he's been retroactively banned, does he get those 4 wins or do they just vacate them all completely? It's going to be interesting for sure.
They're vacated or they're going to Ulrich. He should have clean samples from that period. Did his results from that period get banned?

Yeah, Ryder Hesjedal was caught up in the crash too and looked like he had a bad scrape on his hip after going down. He was the Giro winner this year, so he had a shot at taking the Tour as well. Not any more.
No, he could have won the Tour if he didn't do the Giro. Look at Contador last year.
 
They're vacated or they're going to Ulrich. He should have clean samples from that period. Did his results from that period get banned?

Doesn't look like it was anything but '05, so yeah, Ulrich would have 5 Tour wins if they decide to go that route.
 
No, he could have won the Tour if he didn't do the Giro. Look at Contador last year.

Well, it is possible to win both in a year. Rare I know, but still possible. We wouldn't have known if Ryder was up to it until the mountain stages though. The point is moot now.
 
Doesn't look like it was anything but '05, so yeah, Ulrich would have 5 Tour wins if they decide to go that route.
True, but at this moment he still hasn't been awarded the win for 1996 though. So it is one confirmed win + four second places that deserved the yellow jersey.
 
Vandevelde and Daniel Martin came in after 13 minutes, so the winner won't be coming from Garmin. (Danielson out, Hesjedal lost a lot of time, Van Summeren heavily hurt)
 
Vandevelde and Daniel Martin came in after 13 minutes, so the winner won't be coming from Garmin. (Danielson out, Hesjedal lost a lot of time, Van Summeren heavily hurt)

Wow...what a horrific tour for Garmin.

This race was always going to come down to Evans and Wiggins, but what a shame that all the other GC hopefuls were caught in the crash. Hopefully this means some crazy attacking in the mountains as riders try to salvage a stage win.
 
If armstrong is stripped they shouldn't give the wins to anyone, just let the lists remain blank instead of giving them to another doper. Shame about this stage, so many outsiders gone
 
Way too many crashes already. The number of potential winners of the whole thing has considerably been narrowed down... lame.

Great, great performance of Sagan though. I already feel he will keep the green jersey all along.
 
Rider Hesjedal (Garmin), Maarten Wynants (Rabobank) and Oscar Freire (Katusha) haven't started anymore. I hope a lot more people drop out after this weekend, it will have a calming effect and limit the crashes if at least 10 teams can't compete for the yellow jersey anymore.
 
This stage was awesome. Amazing win by Froome, lots of changes in the GC. Disappointed Dutchies didn't do well though :(
 
So we have three candidates left? Wiggins, Evans and Froome. Seems Sky has the advantage on BMC. Too bad Schleck had to wait for Klöden and Cancellera, he seemed quite strong.

Also nice that Jurgen Van Den Brouck took himself out by driving into a ditch. That should stop all those people claiming he'll end up third.
 
Sky blew nearly everyone away there, i thought Wiggins looked a lot more comfortable than Evans as well. Cadel is going to have to attack early in upcoming mountain stages if he wants to take any time from Wiggins.
 
Mainly because before yesterday, Gesink and Mollema were looking great. And despite having fallen yesterday, Mollema still wasn't bad today.


Being upfront the pack all the time doesn´t mean a thing.
Boogerd was doign that always as well, and always ended up losing time.
 
Being upfront the pack all the time doesn´t mean a thing.
Boogerd was doign that always as well, and always ended up losing time.

Doing well in the time trial and in the few uphill finishes before does mean something. And Boogerd finished top ten in the TdF, twice. And four more times in the top 20.
 
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