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Transformers |OT| Transform and roll out...
- Thread starter Mike M
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It knocked me out of collecting entirely until about a month ago. From that whole tome period I have Statscream, Blurr, and Unicron.
Barrow Roll
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Armada Starscream's character design is really cool though, the old figure just suffered from lanky arms and a lack of basic articulation almost everywhere. This new figure is a great update, but the Hasbro deco is super bland. Thank goodness my friend is visiting Japan right now, he's going to pick one up for me before he gets back.
Hasbro version does have the upside of being more accurate to the Dark Cybertron comics though.
There are people who have modded a Detolf with a U-shaped shelf that lets the overtall combiner's head and shoulders pop up through it, allowing other figures to be displayed on the U around it. It's an idea, at least.
Barrow Roll
Member
Can you imagine if they started making Detolfs with adjustable shelving? I think collectors everywhere would rejoice. Until then, I think using U-bolts is the best solution.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/tutor...f-modification-adding-additional-shelves.html
Princess Viola
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so you have...fortress minimus?That's awesome. The only "transformer" I keep in my office is a 6inch Fortress Maximus knockoff
also guys, how good do flea markets tend to be when hunting for transformers?
Unless you get there before the other guys, including other sellers, you're probably gonna be out of luck. I'm not saying won't won't find something eventually, but just be prepared to leave empty handed 95% of the time.
Flea markets are generally really fun though, so even if you don't score a TF you might luck out and find something else pretty cool.
Princess Viola
Member
Haha most of the time when I go to any place that sells things I like, I leave empty handed.
ColonelSkills
Member
Picturing this in my head is kinda whacky, but it's really not a big deal. I'd either take a single shelf out and fit him with other exceptionally large items, or put him on top of it, or something.
I can't wait to see the whole thing coloured, it'll be hnnnnng.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Hmm. I thought it would be CG. I want to see how it moves. Looks like a splash of Animated is showing, heh. What is Prime doing, being a Obi-Wan. I shall watch it.
Princess Viola
Member
It looks like Prime is judging us.
New Rise of the Dark Spark video: Optimus Prime Vignette
Apparently we'll have a bunch of Transformers games to look forward to:
Presumably Movie 4 is Rise of the Dark Spark. Angry Birds Transformers Racing confuses me.
Apparently we'll have a bunch of Transformers games to look forward to:
Presumably Movie 4 is Rise of the Dark Spark. Angry Birds Transformers Racing confuses me.
ColonelSkills
Member
What does this show have to do with the MP line? They've been extremely solid, G1 designs for years, and their popularity is only growing. I don't think that MP-23 or 24 is suddenly going to be Animated Ironhide.
(That would suck major donkey balls)
It has nothing to do with the MP line?
I said it showed me I'm done with Transformers TV and the MP line only focuses on old stuff so I'm not sure how you linked those two statements in the way you have.
For me Mecha, be it Transfomers, Gundam, Grendizer, or Getter Robo is all about design and I haven't enjoyed a Transformers design since Armada and I hate Bay, Prime, and this new shows design so I'm just going to move away from Transformers once I get my all time favorite in White Prime Magnus.
Yikes, I didn't realize that was coming out already. Time to see if I can swing the scratch... Rarely buy 3rd party but this is the most I've been tempted in a long time.
ColonelSkills
Member
I don't disagree with you, I haven't been big on new designs in quite some time.
All I was trying to say is that you seem to like some of the old designs, and the MP line tends to stick to the old designs, so perhaps writing the franchise off entirely might result in you missing out on something you might otherwise be interested in, that's all.
Either that or I misunderstood what you meant. *shrug*
They look amazing, so much posability in those llittle guys. Plus, Swerve having his post-SHOOMER face with him makes it so much cooler!
ColonelSkills
Member
Sitting on a pile of loot or are you gonna ship them right away?
Gonna ship them right away. :-D
Tizoc
Member
Post pics of Swerve and Gears!
Magnus is the last one I would want though.
Prime, Prowl, Skywarp, and Ultra Magnus are my favorite designs from G1 and with Magnus ill own them all. The MP line are to pricey for me to just money on anything but my favorites.
Maybe one day if they bring out a RiD Omega Prime, Armada Prime, and Armada Jet Fire I might come black.
I emphatically doubt we'll ever see MP renditions of those, but Generations might revisit the Armada or RiD era some more.
Oh I will, I have some neat scenes played out in my head since I have Generations Cyclonus and Blurr for them to interact with.
Barrow Roll
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Wasn't Armada Prime right behind Star Saber in that Japanese poll for the next Masterpiece?
No idea. But if so... Kinda ew? Not sure how Super Pants Prime's design is supposed to ever be made workable.
I remember Armada Prime doing very well in a poll a while back.
Still though given his Power Link im not sure if or how they would work it in and how much he would need to be. So I might be out of luck even if they made him.
Barrow Roll
Member
I just checked, Armada Prime was second on the poll with 24.3% of the votes compared to Star Saber's 31.2%.
Full list:
1. Star Saber (Transformers Victory) - 31.2%
2. Convoy (Micron Legend) / Transformers Armada Optimus Prime - 24.3%
3. Super Ginrai (Chojin Masterforce) / Powermaster Optimus Prime (Generation 1) - 18.6%
4. Dai Atlas (Transformer Zone) - 8.0%
5. Super Fire Convoy (Car Robots) / Robots in Disguise Optimus Prime - 4.9%
6. Beast Convoy / Beast Wars Optimus Primal - 4.6%
7. Galaxy Convoy (Galaxy Force) / Transformers Cybertron Optimus Prime - 2.5%
8. Big Convoy (Beast Wars Neo) - 2.1%
9. Lio Convoy (Beast Wars Second) - 2.0%
10. Grand Convoy (Transformers Super Link) / Transformers Energon Optimus Prime - 1.5%
11. Fortress Maximus (Generation 1 / The Headmasters) - 0.3%
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers...ara-tomy-masterpiece-fans-choice-poll-178798/
I have no idea how the trailer pants could ever be anything more than a brick, but his regular robot mode has a great design. Supercon Prime was a pretty cool figure.
ColonelSkills
Member
Fair enough. I'd personally be super down for a Blurr, but I doubt that's going to happen any time soon.
And yeah, pricey is definitely key. Especially with the recently revealed size of BB. The same price range as Prowl and company while being a whole lot smaller.
Also it bums me out that Powermaster Prime didn't win that poll. That would have been so lovely. ;_;
I'd be super down for a Masterpiece Powermaster Prime/Ginrai. Not all that excited about Star Saber since I have no real attachment to Japan-only characters. Soundblaster only gets a pass because I am a sucker for red/black repaints. I have every MP but if Star Saber is $200+ or something I will probably have to skip him.
Actually Cybertron had some of my favorite mainline toys ever. Energon was pretty solid too, certainly a laaaaaaarge step above Armada.
Yeah, Cybertron had a couple of gems in it, but the Unicron Trilogy was a dark time for the franchise.
There are several official images in this style. Sadly im on my phone and cant link them.
Primal is Included along side the Primes though even though he doesnt officially have the Matrix.
Hell to the fucking no. Armada was no great shake, but most of Energon (Really, almost everything outside non-super mode Prime, the Dinobots, the combined form of the combiner teams, Ironhide, Kicker, Perceptor mini-con team, and Alpha Quintesson) was great. Really, the only weakness were the deluxe and mega size class Autobots being designed around their combination gimmicks sometimes compromised the figure slightly, but they were a huge leap over Armada and were just plain *fun.* I'd take the line over any of the movie lines, Prime, maybe even Animated.
Cybertron was even better, probably one of the strongest overall toylines the franchise has ever had. Starscream, Optimus (one of the best ever, even), the Cybertron Defense upgrades, Megatron, Primus, and a bunch more I can't even remember we're phenomenal. Tons of variety, relatively unobtrusive "Cyberkey" gimmick, and even the worst of them was probably still better than Armada's best.
The fiction was awful, but don't let that reflect on the toys.
Now I want to go bust out these lines when I get home...
Nah, Armada and Energon were 99% trash. Cybertron had a lot more good stuff in it by comparison, and a very good Optimus, but it was still full of vague "future _____" vehicle alt modes and "eh, close enough" design. Armada gave us Unicron, which will always be its saving grace in my book, and Energon has a good and greatly overlooked Shockwave homage, but for the most part they were forgettable toys backed by unwatchable shows. Energon in particular has almost all of its potential ruined by the half-assed combination gimmick that was shoehorned into everything. Probably the weakest single TF line of all time next to Beast Machines.
By no measure can Energon be considered weaker than Armada. Unicorn didn't bring the average up *that* much.
I also think you're giving disproportionate weight to the deluxe and mega sized Autobots, most of the rest of the line wasn't compromised by the need to turn into the upper or lower part of a combined robot. Even on the Autobot side of things, the two ultra-sized molds were fantastic figures. The entire line up of Omnibots and Terrorcons were great (with the possible exception of Signal Flare), and the worst that could be said about the Decepticons was that Megatron/Galvatron's vehicle mode looked like a space swan.
'Course I also happen to prefer futuristic vehicles and robot animals over the realistic stuff.
I also think you're giving disproportionate weight to the deluxe and mega sized Autobots, most of the rest of the line wasn't compromised by the need to turn into the upper or lower part of a combined robot. Even on the Autobot side of things, the two ultra-sized molds were fantastic figures. The entire line up of Omnibots and Terrorcons were great (with the possible exception of Signal Flare), and the worst that could be said about the Decepticons was that Megatron/Galvatron's vehicle mode looked like a space swan.
'Course I also happen to prefer futuristic vehicles and robot animals over the realistic stuff.
Well, that'll create a divide, then. I'm not obsessed with licensed alt-modes or anything, but I much prefer alt-modes that are actually recognizable things and not just a vaguely car-shaped thing passed off as "future" or "Cybertronian" to make up for looking terrible, which the Unicron Trilogy toys did constantly.
It probably comes from being a fan from the initial outset, when the "robots in disguise" thing was taken a bit more literally in the toyline. The gimmick of having toy cars and planes that looked like they were just regular toys, but wait! It's also a robot! was super cool, and to me a good Transformer turns into a recognizable object, not just "thing on wheels/with wings and that's close enough." I don't care if it's an animal or a vehicle or even a building, it should be a convincing approximation, and for the most part the Unicron Trilogy stuff just doesn't cut it in that department for me, unless they're trying to disguise themselves as pre-school truck toys. Yes, I know that falls into the "LOL PLAYSKOOL" fandom fallacy when phrased that way, but I felt far too often in Unicron Trilogy that the alt-modes were borderline afterthoughts.
In other news, people with terrible taste have started a Facebook page in the hopes of getting James Roberts fired. Nothing is so good that someone on the internet won't hate it, I suppose.
Barrow Roll
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Love this figure. Such a great looking Starscream design.
