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ColonelSkills
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A bit of a pain in the ass to put him into torso mode, but the final gestalt is super awesome and totally worth the investment.
Like him more than Giant, to be honest.
What?! Megs is an Autobot now? Might have to check this out. I wonder though if it will even last a year before he switches to being a Con again.
Wow, that looks so much better.
I don't think they will switch so quickly. He went to MTMTE and there are few Decepticons in that series for him to lead, and there are many situations which would be really interesting with Megatron as an Autobot. The Decepticons also got a new leader in Galvatron so they don't necessarily need Megatron back either.
From what I've read, Hasbro is 100% behind these events to be the status quo for a long time to come. so that's encouraging.
I wonder if these events were done to tie in better to the upcoming movies.
Haven't read the whole thread, but would disagree with the G1 animated series detractors. Sure, there are some terrible episodes. But Desertion of the Dinobots is amazing; and if you force through season 2 and rewatch the movie, season 3 is magnificent. Perfect direcion to take the show in the movie's aftermath. Any of you who quit G1 after a few episodes, long as you remember the movie, just skip to season 3.
Also: G1 Starscream is by far my favourite asshole in any media that has ever existed. The voice, the brazenness, the cunning, the stupidity, the occasional nuggets of mocking wisdom or battle skill that compelled Megatron to keep him around despite the fact that he'd literally shoot him in the back as soon as look at him. The Megatron/Starscream dynamic never got old; the back and forth in seasons 1 and 2 were glorious every single time. And I loved his eventual death in the movie.
Starscream: may your robot ghost haunt Cybertronians forever, and occasionally possess them mysteriously.
Also: G1 Starscream is by far my favourite asshole in any media that has ever existed. The voice, the brazenness, the cunning, the stupidity, the occasional nuggets of mocking wisdom or battle skill that compelled Megatron to keep him around despite the fact that he'd literally shoot him in the back as soon as look at him. The Megatron/Starscream dynamic never got old; the back and forth in seasons 1 and 2 were glorious every single time. And I loved his eventual death in the movie.
Starscream: may your robot ghost haunt Cybertronians forever, and occasionally possess them mysteriously.
The fact that the G1 cartoon hasn't aged well is just a product of the time in which it was produced. The animation errors, off model artwork, and cheesy writing was just the norm for the time.
Still, nostalgia is a powerful thing, and I will always love it. I rank it midtier over Beast Machines, RiD, and the Unicron trilogy, easily.
Still, nostalgia is a powerful thing, and I will always love it. I rank it midtier over Beast Machines, RiD, and the Unicron trilogy, easily.
You should read the Robots in Disguise comic, Starscream is even a bigger dick once he finally gets what he wants, leadership.
ThatCrazyGuy
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I still watch G1 sometimes (I have all the episodes on dvd). There is some good episodes, but alot of it is cheese, but it still entertains me. I really like season 3 though, more sci-fi, space adventures, I liked it.
DeaconKnowledge
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Season 3 became more watchable as I got older. As a kid I just could not get over the show waxing half the roster just for the Autobots to mess around in space. I watched it recently though and it made it easier to appreciate - specifically that they weren't just warriors, they were Aliens that had specific problems. Season 3 really fleshed the Transformers out as Cybertronians as opposed to just Bots and Cons.
Problem with it was there was like ZERO threat. Cybertronian wars are over! Cons are on Charr, some bumfuck planet no one gives a shit about! Most of the conflict was poor, which made Rodimus seem even worse than he was. Even as a kid I wished Springer was leader.
Prime came back and the show went to 11 again but by then it was too late.
Problem with it was there was like ZERO threat. Cybertronian wars are over! Cons are on Charr, some bumfuck planet no one gives a shit about! Most of the conflict was poor, which made Rodimus seem even worse than he was. Even as a kid I wished Springer was leader.
Prime came back and the show went to 11 again but by then it was too late.
I'd be really interested in the correlation between people who prefer pre or post movie cartoon and what kind of toys they prefer.
I oddly kind if straddle the line in that I like seasons 1 and 2 of the cartoon better, but season 3 toys more (mostly, there are plenty of exceptions either way.)
I oddly kind if straddle the line in that I like seasons 1 and 2 of the cartoon better, but season 3 toys more (mostly, there are plenty of exceptions either way.)
That's what this thread is teaching me. I'm not really into the toys these days (although as a kid they were by far the coolest pre-videogame items I owned) but the comics sound fantastic.
I'd disagree with the post suggesting there was little real threat in season 3. In this post-9/11 world, the Decepticons' random acts of brutality and attempted power grabs, combined with the Quintessons' machinations, and all the delicate Cybertronian galactic political relations has a great deal of resonnance. It reminds me of Star Trek TNG in that respect.
But really, just watch it for Galvatron and Cyclonus. Mainly the latter. I get chills every time the narrator promotes, "The sleek and awesome Cyclonus..." Also hugely cool to see a Decepticon warrior with a sense of honour, despite his unwavering lloyatly to Galvatron. To think he started life as a Starscream palette swap - I forget if Unicron created him from Thundercracker or Skywarp. But in terms of characters, he is the reason to watch season 3.
Cyclonus is fucking AWESOME in More Than Meets the Eye. Yeah, you need to be reading the comics ASAP.
Yes - the comics are brilliant
The upcoming Phase 2 IDW Collection Hardcovers are likely the best way to get into the current run of comics - oversized hardcovers covering about 12 issues of Robots in Disguise, More than Meets the Eye, and related 1 shots/specials - for about $35 on Amazon. Considering the singles are $4 cover price it's a great deal. Unless you really just have to go the digital route, the Phase 2 hardcovers will be the definitive way to read them.
Some of the Phase 1 material is great too, but a lot of it is terribad. The books themselves are beautiful though.
Some of the Phase 1 material is great too, but a lot of it is terribad. The books themselves are beautiful though.
Nostalgia and the fact it actually does one of the key tenets of the series better than almost anywhere else. Robots *in disguise*, which is virtually ignored since. The actual RID series is the only other show that has actually made sense and used one of Transformers most awesome concepts when you're a kid - that the other cars in the street could actually be alien robots fighting a secret war.
I'll grant you, the movies have also used it a bit. But they're goddamned terrible so who cares.
Really sounds like I do. Glad there's more G1 goodness out there beyond season 4!
I really wish RiD was on Netflix!
I love RiD, granted a part of that is because of the Prime/Magnus dynamic, but even without that it was a great show.
My only real problem was the stupid kid and loli version of T-1, it was really a precursor to the Armada trilogy and their shitty human characters. Still it was much better then all three of the Unicorn series.
Barrow Roll
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My mother always said that if I didn't have anything nice to say...
I like the Deluxe Dinobots, but both Voyager and Leader Grimlock look pretty bad. Not that I dislike the design, but I don't think they translated the design to either toy well at all. That Crosshairs doesn't even look like it's from the same line as the others. I had to look up if that was the "simple" version at first.
Ah well, money saved. At this rate I may just pick up the four Dinobots and call it a day.
Ah well, money saved. At this rate I may just pick up the four Dinobots and call it a day.
Yeah, it's almost as if toy design and qualty have regressed.
Tizoc
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I would recommend the following reading order for the Transformers comics:
Transformers #22 and 23 (Chaos Theory Part 1 and 2); These are also collected in the TPB Chaos Theory which was part of a major arc during that period, but you really only want these 2 issues because of Megatron and Optimus Prime
Last Stand of the Wreckers TPB
More than Meets the Eye Vol. 1
Robots in Disguise
There's also a TPB collecting one shots that James wrote but its name escapes me atm.
Non the less Robots in Disguise is good if you like more Starscream, but for great characterization def. read More than meets the eyes.
Appreciated!
Tizoc
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You're welcome~
Cyclonus is featured heavily in More than meets the eye. In the current comic continuity, Cyclonus is not a Decepticon since he's from the era before the war and thus is just a Cybertronian Warrior. A badass Cybertronian Warrior at that.
EDIT: Ah the Transformers TPB you should also get is 'Transformers Spotlight: Dark Prelude', but read this after reading the last TPB of Mtmte
BW reboot?
ThatCrazyGuy
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Another new show so close? Daaaaaamn.
I assume this is snarky sarcasm, but considering Crosshairs suffers from it and the Deluxe Dinobots do not (let alone most of the 2014 Generations non-movie line), it's clearly not a universal condition, so I'm not sure what your point is. It's one bad toy, not a sea change in toy construction.
Barrow Roll
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Suffers from the same problem as Titanium Magnus. Arms too far back, makes his chest look huge.
Ovek
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Bet the MP Ultra Magnus is just a white MP10 with armour bits to stick on.
As long as those bits look good! LOL
ColonelSkills
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The price for MP Magnus is currently pretty ridiculous too, so I hope it looks smashing since it's going to be pricier than this.
Unless BBTS is just way overestimating, I dunno. I imagine not, though.
Unless BBTS is just way overestimating, I dunno. I imagine not, though.
Bet the MP Ultra Magnus is just a white MP10 with armour bits to stick on.
So exactly what it's supposed to be, then? Using MP-10 as the core will let them avoid the issues with the chest that the KFC and Titanium Magnuses (Magni?) suffer from.
Yeah, even if I wasn't a a huge White Magnus fan, shouldn't people want that to be what MP Magnus is?
As far as the KFC goes, that chest is way to big, and I actually have a problem with the shoulder rockets. They are pretty accurate from what I can see, but Magnus's shoulder rockets have this really ugly cartoon look that just doesn't translate well to a toy.
ThatCrazyGuy
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tfw2005 is doing this 30 years in 30 days of transformers write ups. They are pretty interesting so far I think. '84 and '85 are done.
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers...years-of-transformers-in-30-days-1984-179577/
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers...years-of-transformers-in-30-days-1985-179595/
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers...years-of-transformers-in-30-days-1984-179577/
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers...years-of-transformers-in-30-days-1985-179595/
Ovek
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Considering how much its going to cost a little bit more than a recoloured MP10 with bits of blue armour to somehow cram around his body that doesn't limit limb movement.
That would be a start, it could also have a button on the back that makes him fall apart whilst screaming