GodParticle
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Yeah, I kinda figured they were going that way. I don't like the hasbro stuff usually because of the changes they make. Plus they're annoying to even find at retail or online
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Yeah, I kinda figured they were going that way. I don't like the hasbro stuff usually because of the changes they make. Plus they're annoying to even find at retail or online
BattleMonkey
Member
The mall exclusive shit makes no sense, seems like wasted money potential
Takara makes their money on the exclusives from the fee the retailer pays them to make it exclusive. They don't really need to sell a lot of them to make it worth their while.
Ramjet was easy enough to get if you preordered, and even after it came out you could get them for normal price for a while. I suspect they will come stateside eventually, but god knows what horrible paint decisions Hasbro will make with them. Hasbro MP Sunstorm really pushed me to stick with Takara on the Seeker repaints.
Ramjet was easy enough to get if you preordered, and even after it came out you could get them for normal price for a while. I suspect they will come stateside eventually, but god knows what horrible paint decisions Hasbro will make with them. Hasbro MP Sunstorm really pushed me to stick with Takara on the Seeker repaints.
BattleMonkey
Member
It's more about the extra price tag associated with their "limited" nature, being far more expensive than a traditional MP release
They don't cost much more than a mass release in Japan, as I recall. It's just us importers who get boned due to the extra cost of procuring them.
SiegfriedFM
Member
Luckily I'm not enough of a fan of Ramjet and Thrust to get them, but I will track down the inevitable Dirge.
LocknessMobster
Member
Masterpiece Thrust at BBTS: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK12370&mode=retail
Don't hold your breath for Hasbro. They've been too quiet about future Masterpiece releases aside from an unofficial statement about licensing.
Weltall Zero
Member
I'm playing quite a bit of Transformers Earth Wars lately. It's not a great game by any stretch of the imagination, and apparently it rips off Clash of Clans liberally, but it's quite fun to build your base. Of course because this is a mobile Hasbro game it also does some stupid stuff (beyond the obvious gacha moneygrab scheme, I mean): they give your bots a 1-2 minute cooldown between battles when there's already an energy system in the game (why!?), and right now I'm beating 95% of the battles with the same simple strategy (use Optimus' skill on the mortar).
I really wish they stopped being so fucking greedy with their games. Battle Tactics was a pretty fun little game with lovely visuals and a decently deep battle system, then they had to make it utterly unplayable without buying shit, making people leave in droves and ending up by canceling it entirely (which I can only imagine how must have felt to people who actually spent money on it, I'm surprised that's even legal). Sure makes one want to spend a lot of money in their next game, huh?
I really wish they stopped being so fucking greedy with their games. Battle Tactics was a pretty fun little game with lovely visuals and a decently deep battle system, then they had to make it utterly unplayable without buying shit, making people leave in droves and ending up by canceling it entirely (which I can only imagine how must have felt to people who actually spent money on it, I'm surprised that's even legal). Sure makes one want to spend a lot of money in their next game, huh?
Yeah, feels like a conehead box set would be a perfect big SDCC thing though.
Yeah, I'm enjoying it too, but the last thing I'm ever going to do is spend money on it- this is the fourth Transformers game on my phone in as many years, and all of them before this have been shut down.
You would THINK! But didn't they reveal their SDCC merch already?
Why yes. They did. GI Joe crossover and Dollar General quality Titans Force set. Meh!
BattleMonkey
Member
A 3 MP box set? Doubt anything that big would be done for an SDCC exclusive.
Fort Max with chroming and the Master Sword. Guarantee it.
That's only because there haven't been any real big money MPs that don't need licensing. The cone heads are gonna happen. They're easy money.
Totally.
Weltall Zero
Member
I don't even like Beast Wars, but damn, that's one sweet looking prototype. If they make knockoffs of it I may get one and repaint it black.
Barrow Roll
Member
That looks amazingly screen accurate. I wish the beast head actually formed the chest instead of the cheat they resorted to, but that's a small gripe when what I'm seeing looks so good.
That's one thing that has been bothering me with some modern Transformers. They ceat a lot instead of doing it fully accurate.
Weltall Zero
Member
I can't see the cheat, I assumed the chest indeed formed the beast mode head, and that the heads on the left are swappable for more accuracy / different expressions (which is what the displayed beast mode is using). Am I missing something obvious?
Barrow Roll
Member
The chest in robot mode looks to me like a panel with the beast head sculpted on rather than the beast head itself.
GuyKazama
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I'm too old to care about Beast Wars, but MP-33 Inferno looks awesome. They seem to have found a way to stuff the ladder into his body.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/trans...sterpiece-mp-33-inferno-166.html#post13680056
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/trans...sterpiece-mp-33-inferno-166.html#post13680056
BattleMonkey
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I don't even like Inferno, but now want one
LocknessMobster
Member
^ heads gotta be in the chest cavity,perhaps it rotates with the robot head..
Barrow Roll
Member
Yeah, there's not a chance that that's the actual beast mode head.
Cheats are fine as long as they allow for more accurate robot and alternate modes. Not cheating with Cheetor basically means either ending up with a tiny cheetah head sticking way out of the chest like the Universe design or a cheetah with a big head and stubby neck like the original. Cheats can sometimes be very necessary, especially with the BW designs.
Barrow Roll
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I don't expect miracles and I certainly expect that these season 1 designs will have to cheat a bit (or if they ever do Dinobot, A LOT) to be screen accurate. It was more of an "aw, would have been nice" observation than a real gripe.
EDIT: Another reason for the fake chest head is that in the show, it actually looks rather different from the best mode head.
But man do I want one.
A show-accurate Dinobot would make designing Masterpiece Ironhide look like a cakewalk.
But man do I want one.
Weltall Zero
Member
I'm not 100% sure it doesn't indeed cheat, but so far I see no evidence either way.
What we're saying is that the chest is the beast mode head, and then you can swap it out with a mode anime accurate head (and that's what the pics show). This is what many Soul of Chogokin do. In other words, the chest forms a fully functional head, just not the one showing in beast mode in that pic.
I don't think there's room in the chest for a whole beast head. It seems to me, at most, it hides the lower jaw, which is the point.
Why is that? Again, it's been done numerous times in the past. Hell, it's not like you can't pull out most modern TF's heads, arms and legs even though they're not supposed to do that during transformation.
What we're saying is that the chest is the beast mode head, and then you can swap it out with a mode anime accurate head (and that's what the pics show). This is what many Soul of Chogokin do. In other words, the chest forms a fully functional head, just not the one showing in beast mode in that pic.
I don't think there's room in the chest for a whole beast head. It seems to me, at most, it hides the lower jaw, which is the point.
Why is that? Again, it's been done numerous times in the past. Hell, it's not like you can't pull out most modern TF's heads, arms and legs even though they're not supposed to do that during transformation.
Thing is everyone has a different take on cheats. For some a large part of the appeal of a transformer is how the alt form features are incorporated into the bot mode design and not using the actual alt form feature breaks the illusion and therefore a lot of the appeal. For some it's no big deal as long as the bot mode looks good.
No one is wrong, just different preferences.
Edit: and yeah the Cheetor head is looking like a cheat to me. He looks so great I may completely overlook the cheat this time out tho, hahah
Weltall Zero
Member
Which is why most high-end stuff goes with the optional parts thing, which in this case would mean a cheetah with a large head that you can replace with a smaller one. This way you get both a no-cheats transformation, and accurate looks in both modes if you want.
It could be but I'm not sure that's what is happening here. The displayed multiple heads appear to just be different expressions, which is the most common use for optional parts.
But, then again as has been said already... I'm not really even sure where it would go if it's a cheat where the beast mode head is put somewhere else on the bot body.
Either way, I'm extremely curious to see how it plays out!
Weltall Zero
Member
Yeah, I'm not sure either way myself. We'll see.
LocknessMobster
Member
As i look at it more there def could be room in the chest area or upper back area,theres a huge hump up there and the cheetah head and robot head seem similar in size so it would fit. Thats gotta be a false head on the chest IMO,its much to flat and wide to be otherwise. I think that part of the transformation will be just like MP Primals which there is video of...
Not a big beast wars fan but Im excited to see more of this figure.
CloudyTuba
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I thought I was out of this game and it's been years since a purchase, but god help me I think I'll need to get every single masterpiece Beast Wars character that they make.
davidwhangchoi
Member
it's power master prime, no it's the fake prime godginrai
In general, yes, but for the MP line, I feel like there's really only one way to deal with the problem. The MP line is about atheistics at all cost. Both modes need to be fully accurate as possible in both modes. If you have to cheat to get there, you have to cheat.
I think it's also annoying to some old fans because they were proud that the TF series avoided partsformers and cheats, unlike those silly Macross.
Dude, my whole post was about it comes down to personal preference. And you respond with "Yes, but..."
But nothing. Whether cheats are ok or not is an opinion. That's it.
SiegfriedFM
Member
Inferno could use some more toy detailing on the legs, but he looks awesome either way.
Um, Ultra Magnus? Shockwave?
Apparantly Hasbro's Masterpiece Bumblebee has been spotted at a Canadian TRU. It is licensed by VW and includes the exosuit figure (Officially and expectedly branded as Spike). It's available for CA$119 and according to reports on TFW2005, it'll be priced at $65 in the US.
Which is just about the same price as the TakaraTomy version when it first came out.
Well, they haven't given up on the Masterpiece line but this does not bode well for those still hoping for cheap Masterpiece bots.
Which is just about the same price as the TakaraTomy version when it first came out.
Well, they haven't given up on the Masterpiece line but this does not bode well for those still hoping for cheap Masterpiece bots.
Yuuuuuup.
Okay, no chroming, just some added silver detailing, but the important part is there.
Tizoc
Member
Read MTMTE 54 spoilers, I just couldn't wait sorry!
So what do you think of Skids' Spark Spasm? Is such a thing just an uncommon thing or is it unique to outliers? And honestly I did expect it to be temporary anyways.
But oh man
Skids
SKIIIIIIIIIIIDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
But bah gawd
DAT FINALE
DAMNIT ROBERS WHY DO YOU HAVE TO DRAG IT OUT LIKE THIS?!?!
But oh man
Skids
SKIIIIIIIIIIIDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
But bah gawd
DAT FINALE
DAMNIT ROBERS WHY DO YOU HAVE TO DRAG IT OUT LIKE THIS?!?!