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TRAVOLTA IS ON 3 CHANNELS AT ONCE! ESPN NFL IS IN! (aka the ESPN love thread)
- Thread starter shantyman
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mrkapawutzis
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Just curious, what does the prep feature entail?
basically you have a certain number of hours you can spend coaching your team in a given week, so you have to carefully select who to workout, how to work them out, when to let your team have a day off to relax, how to motivate them, how long they watch game film, how many team meetings, etc.
you can gain small, but noticible stat increases for your team in the areas you worked in (or declines if you mismanage the workouts) that last for that weeks game.
If this works properly, it could finnaly make the 2k series franchise mode worth playing (assuming the trade AI and salary cap management are tweaked).
you can gain small, but noticible stat increases for your team in the areas you worked in (or declines if you mismanage the workouts) that last for that weeks game.
If this works properly, it could finnaly make the 2k series franchise mode worth playing (assuming the trade AI and salary cap management are tweaked).
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
it's a nice thought, but the jury is still out on its effect. lets say you work on your tackling all week or whatever, what if there are still a lot of broken tackles for the other team? what i mean is i hope this isn't just a hollow feature that in the grand scheme of things doesn't mean anything regarding stats.
until VC gets their sim/stat engine in decent order, ESPN will always be second best to madden in the franchise department.
until VC gets their sim/stat engine in decent order, ESPN will always be second best to madden in the franchise department.
from what I have read you can get up to a 15% stat increase in any one category... so the better your team allready is at something, the larger increase you can get..
example: a team with a running game rated 90 with a 10% gain = 99 rating in running.
a team with a 70 running game with a 10% increase = 77 running game.
Which I guess makes sense in the real world, but it seems like a case of the rich getting richer to me... do we really want a team that is allready overloaded in one category becoming more overloaded?
Its intended to help your team explot another teams weeknesses and patch holes to defend against that teams strengths... but you get a larger stat increase in categories you are allready proficient in so you could gain more by boosting allready inflated stats.. so I think there is potential for some major cheese there.
example: a team with a running game rated 90 with a 10% gain = 99 rating in running.
a team with a 70 running game with a 10% increase = 77 running game.
Which I guess makes sense in the real world, but it seems like a case of the rich getting richer to me... do we really want a team that is allready overloaded in one category becoming more overloaded?
Its intended to help your team explot another teams weeknesses and patch holes to defend against that teams strengths... but you get a larger stat increase in categories you are allready proficient in so you could gain more by boosting allready inflated stats.. so I think there is potential for some major cheese there.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
For me, it seems like way too much micromanagement. I saw the video and explanation of the feature, it just seemed like way too much work.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
here were the problem areas stats wise for espns franchise:
- rushing numbers were ridiculous when you played. sim stats were different
- probowl voting was a sham. how does faulk make the probowl with sub-800 yards and i get 2,000+ and dont get in on the voting?
- tackling numbers were a problem. they were just out of whack... defensive linemen had almost no tackles in a season, CB's and LB's were out of proportion which leads me to my next qualm...
- when you sorted through the league leaders section of defensive stats for instance, if you weren't in the top echelon in tackling, you couldn't sort your own individual stats for INT's or sacks or whatever. it's hard to explain but anyone who has played and tried to look that stuff up on a league leader basis knows what i'm saying
- power rankings were a joke. i love the idea, but the rankings were RIDICULOUS. a 7-9 bengals team finish ahead in the power rankings of a 10-6 team etc. p.s. and no the bengals weren't on a win streak, so dont start that.
to be honest i just dont have confidence in VC's stat-tracking or simming engine. hopefully that will change this year, but i'm always on edge expecting the worst in franchise modes since the beginning of NFL 2kx
- rushing numbers were ridiculous when you played. sim stats were different
- probowl voting was a sham. how does faulk make the probowl with sub-800 yards and i get 2,000+ and dont get in on the voting?
- tackling numbers were a problem. they were just out of whack... defensive linemen had almost no tackles in a season, CB's and LB's were out of proportion which leads me to my next qualm...
- when you sorted through the league leaders section of defensive stats for instance, if you weren't in the top echelon in tackling, you couldn't sort your own individual stats for INT's or sacks or whatever. it's hard to explain but anyone who has played and tried to look that stuff up on a league leader basis knows what i'm saying
- power rankings were a joke. i love the idea, but the rankings were RIDICULOUS. a 7-9 bengals team finish ahead in the power rankings of a 10-6 team etc. p.s. and no the bengals weren't on a win streak, so dont start that.
to be honest i just dont have confidence in VC's stat-tracking or simming engine. hopefully that will change this year, but i'm always on edge expecting the worst in franchise modes since the beginning of NFL 2kx
BlackClouds
Member
Yep, yet another example of another genre being forced to have rpg elements. I hope you guys have fun leveling up your players. It was a sad day when the rpg nerds took over. Then again, it's a benefit to those really hardcore football fans with a lot of time on their hands. And it helps in playing a lot of games, as you won't be able to compete against the best unless you put in a hundred games. Doing that in the franchise mode could make a certain sense.
As for confidence in VC in fixings things, I guess I do have confidence in them, as they generally are very progressive. They could get all corporate and put in a bunch of features of dubious worth, but I don't get that sense from them. Also, in a perfect universe these games would be made every 2 years with flexible roster management updates to stay current. In reality, these games are the most rushed in the business, so I don't mind a couple of bugs that only extensive playtesting by good players could unsurface.
As for confidence in VC in fixings things, I guess I do have confidence in them, as they generally are very progressive. They could get all corporate and put in a bunch of features of dubious worth, but I don't get that sense from them. Also, in a perfect universe these games would be made every 2 years with flexible roster management updates to stay current. In reality, these games are the most rushed in the business, so I don't mind a couple of bugs that only extensive playtesting by good players could unsurface.
BlackClouds
Member
Yeah, there should be a "nothing but" in there somewhere. They change and improve the graphics and gameplay extensively enough that it's worth the 50$ a year. That fluff barely even exists to me. Never bought Madden more than every year the engine changed (with the exception of '92,'93), so VC is doing something right.
Late Stage Marxist
Member
Travolta?
Cerebral Palsy
Banned
Bah, everywhere I called said tomorrow for ESPN 
Biff Hardbody
Member
Where in NY???
Biff Hardbody
Member
I didn't know fancie bomb Jack played ESPN...
I've called every fucking store I know in NY and no one has it. fuck fuck fuck.
I've called every fucking store I know in NY and no one has it. fuck fuck fuck.
Here are a some posts I found
Gamechamp in NYC, XBOX, no preorder needed but not too many copies left.
Looks like the independent game stores are coming through for those of us in NYC. I just picked up the game (ps2 version) at the Game Champ on Nevin St. in downtown Brooklyn.
I live here in Yonkers NY and the Dragons Den said they will have it in like an hour I hope
BREAKNEWS TO MY PEOPLE IN QUEENS THEY 2K5 IM BOUT TO PICK UP MY COPY THATS RIGHT THEY HAVE IT HERES THE NUMBER CALL 1718 465-4942 JOYCE LAND ON HILLSIDE AND ASK HIM IM NOT LYING IM ON MY WAY RIGHT NOWWWWW SO I WILL BE BACK IM NOT GONNA PROMISE YALL ANYTIME BUT I WILL POST EVERYTHING
Action Pak
783 Allerton Ave, Bronx, NY
(718)-231-9311
will have the game after 5 est
Just got mine from a mom and pop store in nyc...dude was laughing when i got 6 copies!
i am from bay ridge, gamechamp is between gelston avenue and fort hamilton parkway, if you don't know these streets, they are basically just 2 blocks up from 5th avenue, on 86th st., there's a big pet store next to the place, i'm heading there too when i get home from work, i just hope they have some left
Yo NY guy..Game trade...maiden lane around nassau strete....
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Hope that helps
Gamechamp in NYC, XBOX, no preorder needed but not too many copies left.
Looks like the independent game stores are coming through for those of us in NYC. I just picked up the game (ps2 version) at the Game Champ on Nevin St. in downtown Brooklyn.
I live here in Yonkers NY and the Dragons Den said they will have it in like an hour I hope
BREAKNEWS TO MY PEOPLE IN QUEENS THEY 2K5 IM BOUT TO PICK UP MY COPY THATS RIGHT THEY HAVE IT HERES THE NUMBER CALL 1718 465-4942 JOYCE LAND ON HILLSIDE AND ASK HIM IM NOT LYING IM ON MY WAY RIGHT NOWWWWW SO I WILL BE BACK IM NOT GONNA PROMISE YALL ANYTIME BUT I WILL POST EVERYTHING
Action Pak
783 Allerton Ave, Bronx, NY
(718)-231-9311
will have the game after 5 est
Just got mine from a mom and pop store in nyc...dude was laughing when i got 6 copies!
i am from bay ridge, gamechamp is between gelston avenue and fort hamilton parkway, if you don't know these streets, they are basically just 2 blocks up from 5th avenue, on 86th st., there's a big pet store next to the place, i'm heading there too when i get home from work, i just hope they have some left
Yo NY guy..Game trade...maiden lane around nassau strete....
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Hope that helps
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
bishoptl said:
Maybe GA will have a quote on the commercial ala True Crime.
Biff Hardbody
Member
Thanks man, I appreciate it. Yeah, I just finished reading the thread. I'm in Manhatten though, and those places would take me an hour or so to get to, and I can't do that right now. If I knew place in Manhatten that had it, I'd be all over it. Thanks though.
The Faceless Master
Member
the game champ store at nevins street is the second stop in brooklyn on the 4 train... it's under 30min from midtown during rush hour at this time of day...Biff Hardbody said:
Biff Hardbody
Member
15 minutes to get to train station and wait for train+30 minute train ride+10-15 minutes to find the store in an area I'm unfamiliar with=an hour.
Faceless, do me a favor and check your private messages when you have a chance.
Faceless, do me a favor and check your private messages when you have a chance.
Biff Hardbody
Member
Rain doesn't bother me, I love it. Its probably better I wait till tomorrow anyway, I'll have more cash then and would have to trade in a game today to get ESPN.
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Deleted member 284
Unconfirmed Member
You can also take the 2,3 and 5 train to get to nevin.The Faceless Master said:
Edit: Biff, its right by the train station. Look for the McDonalds on the first floor of the Verizon building when you go top side, and then look to the left. You should see a gate welcoming you to the Fulton (street) mall where buses can go. Go to the gate and on the left side look for a solid blue sign. Game Champis right there and its a big store. There should be some arcade machines right in front.
Biff Hardbody
Member
olubode said:
Thanks for teh detailed info. I was all set to go down there, called em and they told me they were sold out of the X-Box.
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Deleted member 284
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mah po' fingers!!Biff Hardbody said:
They do have some imports and older stuff too.