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Epiphany: Daniel Bryan should come to the ring at Mania to either a full orchestra or power metal band (or both) playing Flight of the Valkyries.

Potentially while riding in a chariot being pulled by FCW talent...
 
Epiphany: Daniel Bryan should come to the ring at Mania to either a full orchestra or power metal band (or both) playing Flight of the Valkyries.

Potentially while riding in a chariot being pulled by FCW talent...

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BFIB

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March Wrasslin' |OT| Written on My Arm, A Message to the Main

Finally caught Raw from last night. Really expected more from The Rock. Is it sad that I feel Cena has the upper hand when its coming to the mic? Rock really hasn't done anything entertaining since his big return to host last years WM.
 
Best and Worst of WWE Raw 2/27/12:
I wrote this column on my wrist

Best: John Cena’s Epic Takedown

I was going to start rooting for the Rock after last week’s Cenariffic condemnation of Eve’s whorish bitch-vagina, but Holy Mary Mother’a God did Cena do in like a minute forty what I thought no man was gonna do again — rip the Rock a new asshole and leave him to stew in his own juices.

Cena came to the ring and more or less said, “yeah, you’re funny or whatever, but I’m going to murder you at Mania, deal with it” and bailed. That is GREAT. That’s exactly what the Rock needs to hear. He doesn’t need a rap about how the Tooth Fairy was awful, he knows it was awful, he’s an actor and acting’s his job and he’d like to get paid money to do it. He doesn’t need to hear that he’s “never around” or whatever, because he doesn’t care, he’s not around by choice. It’s good for him that he’s not around.

What he needs to hear is “this is all bullshit, your act is tired and you don’t know how to do this anymore and you’re gonna get hurt”. When Cena first trotted out and did his WHOA WHOAAAA funny voice guy thing I thought it was going to be more of the same, but it wasn’t … it was a succinct, accurate takedown of the Rock that pointed out his lame Spark Notes, accepted his childish insults with sarcasm and told him to go f**k himself.

It was grand, even if it wasn’t the best part.

Best In Show: The Rock Gets Shook

The best part was The Rock completely losing his functional brain circa the pointing out of his Mindy Simmons script. Listen to the crowd when Cena says he doesn’t need his promo notes on his wrist. That’s not a normal WWE crowd reaction. Gone were the goosebumps, gone was the casual fun and the water sipping and the TRENDING worldwide derp-de-derp. It was replaced by a dude with nothing to say trying his hardest to stall for time until he could come up with something.
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Striker

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notes from the latest PWI Elite text:

John Cena was scripted to get the best of Rock last night. The comment about Rock's crib notes was an improv but there was no indication anything was amiss after the show.
Why is it guys like Heavy and Darksider can't easily see this?

And also whoever wrote that ^^^ garbage, lol. smh
 
Heavy: god fuck meltzer hes just guessing you could see it in rocks eyes that he was shook and that he seriously wanted to tear into john cena's supple firm ass

Oh right, I forgot to cross-post the most important part* of Best and Worst this week:
Advice: Don’t Be So Quick To Assume Everything Is A ‘Shoot’

Yeah, don’t do this. The Rock and John Cena are characters on the wrestling show, and if something happens on the wrestling show, it’s part of the wrestling show. End of story. “Shoots” don’t exist unless they’re 5 years later on an RF Video. It wouldn’t be surprising to assume Cena noticed people seeing Rock’s promo notes on Twitter before he came out and worked it into the story, just as it wouldn’t be surprising to learn that Rock’s promo notes were there on purpose so that whole thing could happen. CM Punk didn’t “shoot” on anybody, he just got the okay to say “Ring Of Honor” on television to get us excited.

That’s how it works. It was an exciting thing that happened, not a “shoot”. It can be exciting and still be a part of the fake show.





*Only the most important part if you're a thin skinned mark
 

jmdajr

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Why is it guys like Heavy and Darksider can't easily see this?

And also whoever wrote that ^^^ garbage, lol. smh

Probably because it was a few minutes after the show. Kind of like the Punk pipe Bomb. Everyone took the time to discuss.

Then you think over it a little more, and come to a different conclusion maybe.

But you all basically called him a moron. At the time of viewing though, as it was happening, it was still debatable in my opinion. Some people here probably didn't even make up their minds until some other source told them what to think. Gotta make sure to check wrestling observer to get all the facts!
God forbid anyone come to their own conclusions, that's just dumb. Who can enjoy anything without running it by wrassle gaf first?

Hey remember the time HBK told Bret to get the fuck out of his ring? That was funny.
 
So wait, Lagana is writing for TNA now? Am I getting this right? If so, I'll have to start watching again.

Lagana and Matt Conway are writing the shows and give input on angles while Bischoff and Bruce Pritchard lay out the storylines. This week's Impact on Thursday will be the first Russo free edition.
 
I marked out on Twitter over the "promo notes" thing and some kid tweeted me back all "Wrestling is fake! Those notes were there so Cena could comment on them so Rock would look bad!"

T_T
 

Linkified

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Epiphany: Daniel Bryan should come to the ring at Mania to either a full orchestra or power metal band (or both) playing Flight of the Valkyries.

Potentially while riding in a chariot being pulled by FCW talent...

Actually Daniel Bryan should come out to full on Orchestra, whilst coming to ring ala HBK.

However I doubt WWE would even do this.
 

Striker

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At the time of viewing though, as it was happening, it was still debatable in my opinion. Some people here probably didn't even make up their minds until some other source told them what to think.
I thought it was quite clear. The've been doing this for a long time. Cheer John Cena, folks!
 
I just realized February has 29 days this year. This must be Triple H's fault, as something like that never usually happens. An extra day to put himself over.
 

darkside31337

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Why is it guys like Heavy and Darksider can't easily see this?

And also whoever wrote that ^^^ garbage, lol. smh

Meltzer still can't tell me the real reason why Brodus Clay isn't on the show. He's full of garbage. Everybody knows Cena destroyed Rock last night. Even the guy who does the weekly writeup on WithLeather knows that much.
 

Striker

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Meltzer still can't tell me the real reason why Brodus Clay isn't on the show. He's full of garbage. Everybody knows Cena destroyed Rock last night. Even the guy who does the weekly writeup on WithLeather knows that much.
I don't give a shit what Meltzer says. It's clear as day. It has been the WWE's job from day one to get as many people as possible to cheer for John Cena. They've gone out of their way in almost every circumstance in order to do so. Look at that red-hot CM Punk back in July and August. His "shoot" promo was to scold Cena's character, call him a kiss-ass, and all sorts of shit. Not long after he's here telling the audience he respects him, he's here all the time and works his butt off, etc. It's garbage, and it's tiring to see them constantly do this shit.
 
I don't give a shit what Meltzer says. It's clear as day. It has been the WWE's job from day one to get as many people as possible to cheer for John Cena. They've gone out of their way in almost every circumstance in order to do so. Look at that red-hot CM Punk back in July and August. His "shoot" promo was to scold Cena's character, call him a kiss-ass, and all sorts of shit. Not long after he's here telling the audience he respects him, he's here all the time and works his butt off, etc. It's garbage, and it's tiring to see them constantly do this shit.

I am actually nearly convinced that all this effort to cheer Cena is so Vince can finally have complete control over all things wrestling-related. He's got control over everything else but the 10%, and if he can control them then he doesn't need to worry anymore.
 

C.Dark.DN

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I don't give a shit what Meltzer says. It's clear as day. It has been the WWE's job from day one to get as many people as possible to cheer for John Cena. They've gone out of their way in almost every circumstance in order to do so. Look at that red-hot CM Punk back in July and August. His "shoot" promo was to scold Cena's character, call him a kiss-ass, and all sorts of shit. Not long after he's here telling the audience he respects him, he's here all the time and works his butt off, etc. It's garbage, and it's tiring to see them constantly do this shit.
Makes sense. HHH, Kane, and Undertaker aren't going to be around forever. Got to push and push to give the illusion of stars so people will eventually believe it since he and the others are there with some of the classic great ones that aren't old men yet. And lol at how much they tried to push a MTV reality star (Miz).
 

UberTag

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I am actually nearly convinced that all this effort to cheer Cena is so Vince can finally have complete control over all things wrestling-related. He's got control over everything else but the 10%, and if he can control them then he doesn't need to worry anymore.
"Actually nearly convinced?"
Really? REALLY?

Frankly, I find it sad that the supposed 10% can fall for something so transparent. You should eagerly anticipate more accidental "flubs from Dwayne" in the next few weeks. The Rock's JOB is to put Cena and WrestleMania over. It isn't to "look good for the people". Even if it means making himself look bad in the process.

If you cheer for Cena now after decrying his "same old BS" nonsense since he turned face in 2003... NINE LONG YEARS AGO... then you are, in fact, a wrestling mark.

I cheer for the wrestlers I cheer for regardless of heel/face allegiance, crap booking or Vince McMahon manipulation. I'll still cheer for Jericho despite thinking his current character is absolute garbage. I'm holding out hope that CM Punk takes this "you were never THE MAN and that eats you up inside" angle and runs with it.
 

SoulPlaya

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Makes sense. HHH, Kane, and Undertaker aren't going to be around forever. Got to push and push to give the illusion of stars so people will eventually believe it since he and the others are there with some of the classic great ones that aren't old men yet. And lol at how much they tried to push a MTV reality star (Miz).
I bet you HHH will still be wrestling years after Cena retires.
 

Kaladin

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I'm not going to cheer Cena now because he found some balls and is "going over" The Rock in promos. It's still the same old Cena who can't hate anyone for anything and just wants to wrestle and win. The only thing that has changed is he's in the zone being in the ring with the Rock and he was given an easy one last night. Don't be fooled guys, it's still the same old shit.
 

UberTag

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It sounded crazy to me, but then again I don't put a lot of thought into shit like that.

And who said I was cheering for Cena?
I'm not saying you were cheering for Cena, in particular. Mostly pointing to all of the people in this thread commending his oneupmanship over Dwayne in the promo department the past couple weeks and rallying to his corner... when this is all by design.

Which is impressive when you consider his terrible PPV ambulance match with Kane, his terrible match on RAW with The Miz and his character assassination of Eve - although she appears to be running with it towards a mixed tag match vs. Zack (probably with Kelly Kelly/Trish) while Kane spends his time burying the tag team division and The Miz wallows in self-pity and getting pedigreed by Trips during commercial breaks.
 

Linkified

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I don't give a shit what Meltzer says. It's clear as day. It has been the WWE's job from day one to get as many people as possible to cheer for John Cena. They've gone out of their way in almost every circumstance in order to do so. Look at that red-hot CM Punk back in July and August. His "shoot" promo was to scold Cena's character, call him a kiss-ass, and all sorts of shit. Not long after he's here telling the audience he respects him, he's here all the time and works his butt off, etc. It's garbage, and it's tiring to see them constantly do this shit.

Pipebombs more like Fizzbombs.

But you are 100% correct. Vince loves trying to swerve Marks, Vince gets a high off of it. If you simply take all of WWE as a 365/24 hour theatre show with larger than life characters,your fine. However, if you view it from a theatre production standpoint - everything WWE has ever done was a work to make it come off as real. However Marks who think they know how theatre productions work, are the ones paying £100 a seat right next to the stage.

Life lesson here: If your sceptical about everything you can't be fooled/hustled.
 

Striker

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I wouldn't put any pros in there. The Miz stuff was there to make Bryan look like a fool, or at least a poor attempt to. Plus, for the love of god, no Michael Cole.

Make guys like William Regal, Goldust, and others, perhaps the agents like Road Dogg or Arn Anderson, give them tips and reports.
 
NXT is only as good as the wrestlers which appear on it.

Even still, a bunch of rookies that get thrown out there without gimmicks is not the best idea, especially when these guys they have right now are gonna be pretty much it for the foreseeable future. There's not another Lesnar/Angle/Rock/Austin out there so they need to be careful with these guys when they debut and protect them. Not throw them all out together on a show about rookies.
 

rvd2kewl

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Here's a follow-up by PWinsider.com:

The 2/27 edition of Raw did a hardly stellar 3.1 rating for the return of The Rock. The show did hours of 3.11 and 3.16 so the rating rose in hour two. Unfortunately, the show still lost viewers as hour one averaged 4.7 million of them while hour two averaged 4.6. Overall, the show averaged 4,650,000 viewers.

Gotta be considered a disappointment within WWE, though obviously it could've been much worse.
 
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