Which makes vinces talk with stans son utterly pointless.
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True Detective - Season 2 - We get the Season we deserve - Sundays on HBO
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Which makes vinces talk with stans son utterly pointless.
Hell no ! You won't see much more than the image I posted lol.
Robot Pants
Member
This post is pure gold
They should've replaced Stan with that half shark, half anaconda guy and he should've died in this episode. At least then we would've understood why Frank is so upset and we would've actually knew who the hell got killed.
It would've also made Frank more suspicious of Blake on whatever he's doing behind Frank's back.
It would've also made Frank more suspicious of Blake on whatever he's doing behind Frank's back.
VaultBoy101
Member
So what's the overall consensus for this season so far? I've been waiting to binge-watch it, but I get the impression that this is a major step down from season 1, correct?
BUNTING1243
Banned
For me it's a definite step down, sorta frustrating because it could be way better, but still pretty okay. I look forward to each episode.
apocalidiot
Banned
Personally, I would not recommend it to anyone that has or has not watched True Detective season 1. If they haven't seen TD season 1, I would tell them to watch that. if they have seen TD season 1, I would tell them to watch a different tv show, movie, book, album, or to go outside for a walk.
Did three of us just make back to back comments about Lera Lynn at the same time?
Haha how the fuck
damien1928
Banned
I'm team positive on true detective season 2, there's to much negativity around, I've enjoyed every episode.
It's okay to enjoy garbage.
The Albatross
Member
It just seems all so pointless. So needlessly complex.
The Albatross
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=173113892&postcount=5118
Compared to season 1, it is utter garbage in every way. But, stand alone, had season 1 never existed I would have thought it was a high production level TV show that made no sense, but the shots and scenes are all pretty good... It just doesn't make a lick of sense, the characters are stupid, and the writing is terrible.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
I thought it was meant to show he wouldn't be awful if he did foster a child. Since we had that long scene about his childhood and how he wouldn't adopt.
Extra Sauce
Member
This is pretty mind-blowing to read as someone who has yet to watch a single episode from the second season.
How does such a drop-off in quality happens when the same dude is writing?
Kadayi
Banned
Tense stuff throughout.
Narrative is no more obscure than The Wire or Deadwood in terms of understanding what's going on. Like season one it demands you pay attention to what is unfolding.
Narrative is no more obscure than The Wire or Deadwood in terms of understanding what's going on. Like season one it demands you pay attention to what is unfolding.
Anton Sugar
Member
It was better when Eastbound & Down did it.
It's not like it's us. Look at...well, basically ANY television critic/review site. I agree, there is some hyperbole, but this show is both helped and undercut by the "True Detective" mantle.
harriet the spy
Member
have not started watching this.. is it good so far? compared to s1?
I don't understand the "the plot doesn't make sense" comments.
The show is often boring, and so it's hard to pay attention, and you are probably surfing GAF instead of watching parts of the show.....
...but if you pay attention the plot certainly "makes sense". It's just boring too frequently.
The show is often boring, and so it's hard to pay attention, and you are probably surfing GAF instead of watching parts of the show.....
...but if you pay attention the plot certainly "makes sense". It's just boring too frequently.
Well, you can spend years coming up with an idea for a first season, getting notes, etc. and then you make it. And then instead of relying on the normal crutches would one to alleviate the production crunch that comes with a second season (see: a writers' room!), he decided to try to write an entirely new season with new characters with a new premise (which is hard as is!) under the time constraints of going from production on one season to a second almost entirely by himself.
I think there's a bit of hyperbole running around with people wanting to see Pizzaman taken down a peg (granted, that was of his own making) and the highs that people revered TD season 1, but man, this season is rouuuuuugh.
Crimson Clown
Member
Indeed. It veers from above average to fantastic, mostly towards the latter in these back half episodes.
It's had its occasional bad moment and silly instances of dialogue here and there for sure but man, I just don't understand so many people thinking this is worst ever TV we're witnessing here. The hyperbole is staggering.
Kadayi
Banned
I've read quite a few reviews of this episode and I haven't yet come across any damning the show as 'unwatchable' or' worst show evar!!'. Yet the way some people talk here you'd think Nic Pizzolato had personally walked into their living room and dropped a deuce on the coffee table.
That part I agree with. (It should be noted there was a second writer on this episode IIRC). I think more writers need to be involved going forward with the series in order to add a bit more differential to the voice of the show. It worked OK with the smaller cast in season 1, but its been less successful with the larger cast of season 2. Still not a trainwreck though (unlike say the penultimate season of Justified which was all over the shop).
The English Conquistador
Member
Damn that was a good episode! The sex mansion, along with that music playing in the background reminded me of a Hitman Blood Money level. I've enjoyed the rest of the series but I wish the previous episodes were as strong as this was.
Side note - Ani (I forget the actress' name) don't do much for me normally, but when she's got the black hair. Damn.
Side note - Ani (I forget the actress' name) don't do much for me normally, but when she's got the black hair. Damn.
Well, this one from Hollywood's biggest trade is particularly damming:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bastard-machine/tim-goodman-you-opt-orgy-811301
Not everyone watched S2 of Twin Peaks, so it's understandable.
dapperbandit
Banned
I liked the episode.
I like it as a seperate entity to the first season.
I do feel like the first season set a precedent for spooky goings on in a realistic setting with the occult stuff. The setup of this show with the birdman made me think season 2 was going the same way. It might still be. But I like a mystery to string me along, at this point it feels like we have enough of the pieces.
I like it as a seperate entity to the first season.
I do feel like the first season set a precedent for spooky goings on in a realistic setting with the occult stuff. The setup of this show with the birdman made me think season 2 was going the same way. It might still be. But I like a mystery to string me along, at this point it feels like we have enough of the pieces.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Damn that was a good episode! The sex mansion, along with that music playing in the background reminded me of a Hitman Blood Money level. I've enjoyed the rest of the series but I wish the previous episodes were as strong as this was.
Side note - Ani (I forget the actress' name) don't do much for me normally, but when she's got the black hair. Damn.
Rachel McAdams.
She's fine as hell. Especially when she's in those jeans.
But yeah, she was stunning here.
The kid scene with Vaughn was weird though and who the hell remembers Stan. Too much time on that one. Looking forward to the last 2 episodes, hoping they'll find a way to tie this all nicely together.Chance Hale
Member
Maybe people would understand what was happening if they didn't stop watching every 5 minutes to make a post about how awful "Pizzaman" is.
You'd think that, but the real reason for that is because the show has Frank and his wife talking about nothing every 5 minutes. It's kind of like having six intermissions every episode.
The English Conquistador
Member
Jeez how could I forget her name. I just couldn't be asked to search it. I know, awfully lazy of me. Damn she looked good.
Her scenes in the mansion were fantastic. Like others have mentioned, the music is very oddly placed but to me it added to the tension and fucked up feeling of it all. Great great stuff!
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
I stopped coming here because of the insufferable posters who hate this show but keep watching because reasons.
It's been a pretty slow ride and tough to understand certain things throughout the season, but it's picked up since the shooting scene in episode 4. This was by far the best episode of the season and one of the best in the entire show. That entire sequence with Ani was terrifying, tense and amazing all into one. One thing they should have actually showed us is who Stan was in the first few episodes however. No one knows or cares about him, and them making it plot point makes it a bit confusing when it shouldn't be. Two lines of dialogue here, and a drink with Vince there is all it would have took. Overall the one thing I wish season 2 had that season 1 had is the past, present and future style. However looking at all the plot points here with so many characters, the season would need to be 12-15 episodes rather than 8 for it all to tie up nicely.
brianjones
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brianmcdoogle
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I've been out of things for a week, and I honestly don't feel like putting finger to keyboard to explain reoccurring problems, but I'll just say that episode 5 was weak, and 6 was an upgrade and the peak so far (other than the opening with Farrel and Vaughn, who still stinks, and maybe the choice of song of the drug/alcohol relapse, which I didn't care for). I dunno. Show is still a mess, and this last episode, episode 6 with TWO EPISODES LEFT, just showcase that with better direction and acting moments, the writing appears weaker and weaker.
The show will go on whether we like it or not.
The show will go on whether we like it or not.
I actually like Frank's character the most this season. I feel like every scene he's in is interesting and he has something insightful to say even though it might come off as too pretentious. I mean c'mon its gotta be better than the lines riggins has been given this season..
I'm pretty interested to see how HBO goes from here. They've already signed Pizzolato for a third year, and he's said three is about as many as he's willing to do, but they can't not be oblivious to all the bad press this season has been can they? In both critical and general viewer acclaim, this year has been a HUGE drop off from what was an enormous prestige show for them last year and I can't see them just sitting on their ass while Pizzolato does S3 on his own devices. Maybe give him an extra year to hone the scripts (and put some distance between this season and the next one)? Or maybe force him to put together a writer's room for S3?
I suppose you're right. Too bad it's one of the stories nobody cares about though. Maybe they'll make it pay off in the end somehow.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Damn that was a good episode! The sex mansion, along with that music playing in the background reminded me of a Hitman Blood Money level. I've enjoyed the rest of the series but I wish the previous episodes were as strong as this was.
Side note - Ani (I forget the actress' name) don't do much for me normally, but when she's got the black hair. Damn.
All I could think of is Jennifer Garner in Alias
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
pizza man doesn't read the internet - he 'isn't in the service industry', his own words. Good luck to HBO
dead souls
Member
How dare you dehumanize Stan by calling him merely a henchman. He is the alpha and omega, the yin and yang, the peanut butter and the jelly. Everything begins and ends with him.
This is obviously no TD S1, but I'm getting some enjoyment out of it. Colin Farrell is doing a good job with Ray imo, and is the only standout performance of the whole crew. Loved the tense sit down between him and Frank. Also didn't think Ray's confrontation with his wife's real rapist was laughable. Felt pretty true to his character and Farrell acted out Ray's controlled fury pretty well, I thought.
I don't remember this being said at all. Did either of those kids, especially the daughter in the smoking joint, ever mention that they were adopted? I assumed the two kids in that picture Woodrugh was shown were just random (but likely Caspere's murderer's since they have a reason to get payback on him if he was the killer of their parents).
I don't even remember any partner of Ray being shown. What is the title of the guy who showed up at Ray's house last episode? The one who told him that he couldn't live there anymore and would be evicted? He fit the "skinny white cop" bill the mexican girl mentioned over the phone. Which would just confirm what we already knew - Chessani was implicit in setting the crew up to raid a dangerous cook house.
I don't remember this being said at all. Did either of those kids, especially the daughter in the smoking joint, ever mention that they were adopted? I assumed the two kids in that picture Woodrugh was shown were just random (but likely Caspere's murderer's since they have a reason to get payback on him if he was the killer of their parents).
Purple Cheeto said:
I don't even remember any partner of Ray being shown. What is the title of the guy who showed up at Ray's house last episode? The one who told him that he couldn't live there anymore and would be evicted? He fit the "skinny white cop" bill the mexican girl mentioned over the phone. Which would just confirm what we already knew - Chessani was implicit in setting the crew up to raid a dangerous cook house.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Buying your kid's love with pizza. That's the american way
and then go on drug burst. God damn. America till the max
and then go on drug burst. God damn. America till the max