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[CassidyIzABeast]

"nutted but she still suckin...ugh".gif

 

[TimeEffect]

Uhh, so maybe I'm dumb or was tired, but does anyone know where I can get a detailed summary of the episode? I just was not following.

 

[dapperbandit]

Not too keen on the intro song but so far I'm interested to see where this all goes. Seems very much like a prologue episode really just establishing the characters and their raft of personal failings and insecurities.

I still don't entirely understand his blank expression here and the closing of the eyes.

What's happening is that he's getting noshed off

 

[Radec]

I must have missed, what happened in Taylor's first scene? Did he accept the speeding girl's offer? Next scene I saw was him getting out of the station getting laughed at.

 

[kingocfs]

I must have missed, what happened in Taylor's first scene? Did he accept the speeding girl's offer? Next scene I saw was him getting out of the station getting laughed at.

Pretty sure he turned her down and filed a report saying that she offered it, which is why everyone was laughing.

 

[kirblar]

I must have missed, what happened in Taylor's first scene? Did he accept the speeding girl's offer? Next scene I saw was him getting out of the station getting laughed at.

Given the scene w/ his GF, he couldn't have accepted even if he wanted to.

 

[Cels]

I must have missed, what happened in Taylor's first scene? Did he accept the speeding girl's offer? Next scene I saw was him getting out of the station getting laughed at.

he didn't, but she lied about it and got him in trouble

 

[ultron87]

I must have missed, what happened in Taylor's first scene? Did he accept the speeding girl's offer? Next scene I saw was him getting out of the station getting laughed at.

He turned her down but then she publicly accused him of propositioning her which is why he got put on leave.

 

[BTM]

Went in expecting to be disappointed, and surprisingly, I ended up enjoying it quite a bit. It was a little tough to follow at times but other than that I thought it was a good premiere. All 4 of the leads are solid so far, especially McAdams.

 

[Radec]

Thanks. That bitch.

 

[Oscar]

Using motorcycles as a way to get an adrenaline rush for military guys is a real thing- they have terrible accident/fatality rates on them.

Yeah the handful of military bros I'm friends with (different branches, they don't know each other) all coincidentally ride motorcycles.

 

[Ape Gone Insane]

If this wasn't called True Detective, would it have been received better?

 

[shadowkat]

If this wasn't called True Detective, would it have been received better?

Hard to say. For me, if this had been a brand new series I would have stopped after this episode. I might have picked it up again later if I heard it got really good but there was almost nothing in the episode that made me want to continue to watch. Since it's S2 though, I'll give it a few more episodes before I decide. It sounds like many are giving it the benefit of the doubt and doing the same.

 

[KarmaCow]

Uhh, so maybe I'm dumb or was tired, but does anyone know where I can get a detailed summary of the episode? I just was not following.

It might be easier to ask about what you didn't understand.

Vince Vaughn is trying to get some totally "legit" building developments started but the city manager goes missing. Also a reporter is writing about what he and his associates do which would hamper his plans to move up the ranks.

Colin Farrell is indebted to Vince Vaughn so he could get info about his wife's rapist and exact his own revenge, so Vaughn gets him to silence the reporter. He's also a fucking lunatic with anger issues, but I don't think anyone missed that. Farrell is told by the higher ups to find the missing city manager but finds nothing but kinky sex toys and art in his house.

Rachel McAdams has daddy issues that manifest in a coarse exterior while Taylor Kitsch is an emotionally broken thrill seeker that can't get a boner.

That body they find at the end is the same one we've seen in the back of the car throughout the episode is the city manager.

 

[Jarmel]

I should clarify something, Ray has been corrupt for a good while. Ray beating up the journalist was for money, not for finding his wife's rapist. That favor probably got called in awhile ago.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

Damn those final few seconds to establish the 'team' were great. And not simply copying season 1 either.

 

[Theorry]

Uhh, so maybe I'm dumb or was tired, but does anyone know where I can get a detailed summary of the episode? I just was not following.

Saw a good one on Reddit.

Let me try to recap the episode:

Colin Ferrell is Ray Velcoro, a detective in the city of Vinci. Vince Vaughn's character Frank Semyon gave him information on who raped his wife and this made Colin in his pocket. Basically its assumed that Colin's son is not biologically his. In addition Vince is helping him legally with the custody of his child by providing an attorney to Colin

The city of Vinci is going to be apart of a state mass rail deal with potential for profits for local businesses. Vince's character needs the city manager to help make it progress and secure a deal with, who I assume, is a Russian businessman. Vince's character is a cross of businessman and gangster like qualities. Its assumed that Capser, the city manager, is holding Vince's money.
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A article in the local paper talks about local city corruption. Vince gets Colin to beat up the reporter to intimidate him to not write any more stories and he stole the information he had. In addition Colin is on the case to find the missing City Manager. When they show up at his house it becomes clear that its a kidnapping.

Rachel McAdams plays Ani Bezzerides who is a County Sheriff. She busted a presumed prostitution ring but it was a hazy legal porn cam business. She discovers that one of the women is her sister and they have a rocky relationship because of the sister's life decisions. Later on she serves a notice to a family that's going to be evicted. The wife of the family asks Rachel about her missing sister getting no help from local police. She says that she got some new job and it leads her to a Dharma Yoga/Meditation center. The person who owns it I assume is her father and she has relationship issues with him, I presume. The missing sister no longer works there so the mystery of her whereabouts will continue.

Taylor Kitsch plays Paul Woodrugh who is a California Highway Patrolman. He pulls over a woman for speeding and reckless driving. The woman tries to bribe her way out of it with sex. It's suggested that Taylor arrested her but she lied about him accepting oral sex to get out of the ticket. He's suspended. He's also a war veteran with scars and has sexual problems with his girlfriend (leaving to the bathroom to get hard). Distraught about the suspension he takes his bike and goes for a ride going at top speed and turning out the lights in a apparent suicide but he backs out of it. Where he stops he finds the dead body of the missing city manager.

Rachel is called to the scene because its in her county's jurisdiction and Colin is called because he's on the missing person's case to find Casper. Basically the 3 big cops of the show Colin, Rachel, and Taylor meet at where the body was dumped.

 

[Cornballer]

Uhh, so maybe I'm dumb or was tired, but does anyone know where I can get a detailed summary of the episode? I just was not following.

Warming Glow put up a solid recap

 

[Ludovico]

A few cringe moments here and there (talk to your daughter - I already did...), but man, put me down as completely digging it so far.
While there were a lot of scene switches and tons of threads to handle, I enjoyed actually having to actively watch this and predicting where the threads are going to lead.

Now that the setup is done and all the cards are on the table, I can wait to see what's in store for next week.

 

[foxtrot3d]

If this wasn't called True Detective, would it have been received better?

No. Ask "Low Winter Sun."

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I keep hoping for a cameo where Old Man Rust and Old Man Marty pop up in the background enjoying the California sun while hunting another deranged serial killer in their twilight years.

 

[Anton Sugar]

No. Ask "Low Winter Sun."

.

 

[Flacracker]

I liked this episode but I think the next one will be a lot better.This episode had to introduce us to a lot of characters and then show how they get wrapped up together. The first season only really had two characters to introduce so it could focus a lot more on the mystery in the first episode..

 

[Anton Sugar]

Yeah, I do have hope that their development and interactions will be a lot more organic once they're all together as a group. Too much in the opener felt forced and a bit contrived.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Seriously, Colin Farrel beating a white dad with brass knuckles in the suburbs as a police officer... there is no way he would not go to prison for that.

No. Fucking. Way.

Come on, Pizzaman. Vince Vaughn isn't covering that shit up.

 

[Secret Fawful]

So, that skeleton with the crown on its head in the missing city planner's house was totally a Yellow King reference, right?

 

[Kraftwerk]

So, that skeleton with the crown on its head in the missing city planner's house was totally a Yellow King reference, right?

That's what I thought.

 

[Fjordson]

I should clarify something, Ray has been corrupt for a good while. Ray beating up the journalist was for money, not for finding his wife's rapist. That favor probably got called in awhile ago.

Yeah, the way Vaughn casually said "call Ray" and his familiarity with him when they met in the bar seemed to imply that he's being working with Vaughn's character on and off for a while now. Ever since he reached out to him about his wife's rapist I'd guess.

 

[nahlakhai]

Seriously, Colin Farrel beating a white dad with brass knuckles in the suburbs as a police officer... there is no way he would not go to prison for that.

No. Fucking. Way.

Come on, Pizzaman. Vince Vaughn isn't covering that shit up.

My theory is he's able to get away with it because the kid lived in Sherman Oaks, which is hardly a suburb btw, and he's in a different jurisdiction (Vinci, fictional city).

 

[Talon]

Only Pizzaman can make zoning sticks look menacing.

 

[Lan Dong Mik]

Seriously, Colin Farrel beating a white dad with brass knuckles in the suburbs as a police officer... there is no way he would not go to prison for that.

No. Fucking. Way.

Come on, Pizzaman. Vince Vaughn isn't covering that shit up.

I hear ya, I'll be pissed if they never come back to it or explain how he gets away with it. He got the address from a dispatcher, then showed up with no disguise whatsoever, said he was a cop, you know they obviously called the cops. It won't be hard to put two and two together so I'm hoping we don't get somw bs explanation as to why he won't be put away and lose his job over that.

That being said, I've seen the episode twice now, and I loved it even more the second time around. I can't wait until next Sunday.

 

[Orlandu84]

As I watching the first episode, I had to pause halfway through it. Walking back to my television, I realized that the show felt more rich than my house did! Although the season did not start as well as the first season, I found everything about it to be intriguing and enchanting. The show might never capture the chemistry of the first season, but I am satisfied at present.

 

[Fancy Clown]

I hear ya, I'll be pissed if they never come back to it or explain how he gets away with it. He got the address from a dispatcher, then showed up with no disguise whatsoever, said he was a cop, you know they obviously called the cops. It won't be hard to put two and two together so I'm hoping we don't get somw bs explanation as to why he won't be put away and lose his job over that.

That being said, I've seen the episode twice now, and I loved it even more the second time around. I can't wait until next Sunday.

Yeah I didn't buy that at all, even if if the scene itself was easily the most entertaining with how ridiculous it was. The show even went out of its way to show Kitch's character getting suspended for allegedly getting a blowjob while on the job so no way Farrell's character could pull that shit lol.

 

[jrush64]

I enjoyed it. I don't think I'll be watching again until they complete this season. Don't like the wait for this kind of shows.

 

[Future PhaZe]

yall acting like previews to the next episode

Spoiler

didn't have every cop in the force basically keen to the fact that velcoro is crooked

really really interested in knowing what they could possibly be getting out of allowing him to continue as a cop, let alone in this particular investigation

 

[DoktorEvil]

Dude has some serious trauma and it appears he dislikes sex because it's a trigger for him. He also has some serious (acid/chemical??) burns that hint at him being badly abused when he was younger.

Well after it was revealed that he's a military vet and had scars from before his service it just seems like a cocktail for craziness (trauma + PTSD). It's also clear that he's suicidal (crazy bike ride with his headlight off), so that made the emotionless blowjob make more sense to me.

He just seems dead inside and numb to everything.

So is Pizzaman hinting that Woodrugh was sexually/physically abused and that affects his mental state while having sex?

That's what Im getting from that scene. Physically, shouldn't his body be able to... get it up, regardless?

 

[Baldwin_the_First]

Shiiit, just finished the episode and after that look they gave each other at the end, I can just feel it in my bones that this season is going to be awesome. Feeling super pumped for next week's episode.

Oh and that's one way to traumatize bullies into never bullying again! haha my man Colin!

 

[Future PhaZe]

sorry about that cornballer

 

[foxtrot3d]

So I just went back and watched the first episode of S1 and like I remembered it's miles better. Most of the episode is spent exploring Rusty and his partnership with Marty and of course the original crime that starts everything off is present at the very beginning. This opening season just felt very confusing and unfocused, again I'm sure it will all tie up together in a somewhat passable way but that doesn't excuse such a crappy opening.

 

[Anton Sugar]

That's what Im getting from that scene. Physically, shouldn't his body be able to... get it up, regardless?

Not at all, no. Erections aren't necessarily dependent on being aroused/turned on, but they are dependent on biological (and chemical, to an extent) processes in your body. If something ain't working, it ain't gonna happen, even if you want to.

Hence, erectile dysfunction supplements.

 

[golem]

My theory is he's able to get away with it because the kid lived in Sherman Oaks, which is hardly a suburb btw, and he's in a different jurisdiction (Vinci, fictional city).

Uh not how it works in America

 

[Anton Sugar]

Uh not how it works in America

"Just gotta make it past the state county border and we're free!"

 

[SephCast]

I'm confused on why people think Vince Vaughn finding the rapist is the only reason Farrell helped him with the journalist. It was clear to me that that was just the beginning of their relationship and he's been his Cop henchman on and off since that day. Note that back then he was California Highway, now he's Vinci PD. Not a coincidence they ended up in the same city.

 

[Meier]

That wasn't Tom Waits, it was Leonard Cohen.

Tom's Way Down in the Hole was used for The Wire, but his original was only used one season oddly, the rest were covers.

that's Leonard Cohen though.

Oops, that's right. My wife looked this up and mentioned it last night but I forgot who she said clearly. Completely indifferent towards Leonard Cohen (as well as Tom Waits).

 

[Jex]

That was actually slightly worse than I expected, even with all the negative reviews coming out beforehand. Extremely disappointing.

 

[beta_fuse]

So did Paul Woodrugh (Taylor Kitsch) just stumble across the city manager by chance while he was going all crazy on the highway or did I miss something?

Oh and I'm reading a lot of negative responses to the intro song. I personally loved everything about that intro.

 

[dave is ok]

I'm surprised how negative the reactions are.

It wasn't that bad.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

So did Paul Woodrugh (Taylor Kitsch) just stumble across the city manager by chance while he was going all crazy on the highway or did I miss something?

Yes. There are contrivances in fiction. The body would have been found eventually.

 

[Red_Man]

I'm surprised how negative the reactions are.

It wasn't that bad.

This. Seriously, it wasn't as strong as the first episode of S1, but the amount of shit people are dropping on this is ridiculous.

 

[KingKong]

The subtext is all there, don't be surprised to see Rachel McAdams pegging Taylor Kitch in the fourth episode