It's just stupid, someone thinking they're making High Art. That sort of stuff actually really pisses me off even though it has no bearing on the actual narrative.
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True Detective - Season 2 - We get the Season we deserve - Sundays on HBO
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It's just stupid, someone thinking they're making High Art. That sort of stuff actually really pisses me off even though it has no bearing on the actual narrative.
McAdam's character, Antigone, needs better writing than what was on display last night or Pizzo will be eaten alive. The audience is introduced to her by her kinky sexual preference, the only character on the show done in such a manner. Afterwards she busts up a camwhatever where she and her sister get into an argument about how she is upholding these traditional views on sex. Her sister's jab at her about how everytime Anti walks, it's like two erasers coming together, was I think a jab saying her pussy was dusty. Not that it really makes sense as the prior scene establishes she gets laid but whatever. She then gets into an argument about her father about how she feels her sister is degrading herself by prostituting/camwhoring. This episode attached her to sex more so than any other character. Clumsily I might add.
Obviously this can change over the course of episodes but I don't think Antigone was what people had in mind when they wanted a female lead.
Obviously this can change over the course of episodes but I don't think Antigone was what people had in mind when they wanted a female lead.
Future PhaZe
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answers to mysteries are never as exciting as the chase
I think S1 did a great job of enveloping its audience in enough deep level fuckery to believe certain things were possible
maquiladora
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Here comes the hyperbole...
The hyperbole came as soon as the first scene ended. A lot of people were just waiting for this to fail it seems like, and blew every little thing out of proportion.
Was it great? No, but it was the first episode of a series.
You sir hit the nail on the head. I do hope the writing and the delivery in the later episodes get better but I'm not so sure if that will happen.
Yeah it was one of the least offensive things of the ep. My favorite exchange was when Farrell and Vaughn were drinking at the bar.
"You're supposed to savor that."
"Let me try that again."
It wasn't entirely the lines--the actors delivering them are a barrier. I like Farrell well enough but the man can't sell pseudo-intellectual psychobabble the way Matthew "I Don't Sleep I Just Dream" McConaughey could. There's also the fact that from the jump Rust's philosophy was being interrogated and questioned by Marty. It was played for laughs. Lines like the astronaut one last night didn't have that context.
That's true. I guess the balance is a little off without a character like Marty.
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Just saw the first episode
1) I miss the theme song from the first season a lot
2) that trio at the end. I fear this season will be a bit over the top for me with the misfit/troubled/drunken cop cliche
3) i have no idea what's going on - that I expect after the first episode though
1) I miss the theme song from the first season a lot
2) that trio at the end. I fear this season will be a bit over the top for me with the misfit/troubled/drunken cop cliche
3) i have no idea what's going on - that I expect after the first episode though
Fancy Clown
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Yeah if you're gonna whip out the alcoholic detective trope you might as well go all in. Farrell's character is geniously over the top. He's easily the most entertaining aspect of the 1st ep.
Vince Vaughn on the other hand was a sullen wet fart the whole ep and has the worst plot line thus far becuase I didn't fucking want to watch a gangster try to be legitimate in Godfather part 3 and that was Al Pacino selling it, so I sure as hell don't want to watch Vince Vaughn try to do it.
Farrell has more charisma in his mustache than Vaughn does in his entire acting career.
ZQQLANDER
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Why the hell didn't they use the Lera Lynn's song from the promo?! I actually thought it was better than the Handsome Family's "Far from Any Road" (which I loved).
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Discotheque
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to be fair i can't recall many people who can match mcconaughey's spacey delivery right now.
he's managed to somehow master both the all american dad role and also the existential hippy. i haven't seen this yet tho lol, watching later today)
looking forward to it, despite the mixed reviews.
I think it's time we get a bunch of opening intro mashups with other music.
Well have fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrD2_ccBIp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8evcGwvjRE&feature=youtu.be
https://vid.me/zzxf
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Judge Justified by its first episode only.
This could just be me, but the other thing that worked for Rust is that he had a decent goal underneath all the craziness in trying to solve the case. I mean innocent people dying and women and children being horribly abused is clearly a bad thing. So you had something to root for, despite Rust and Marty being highly flawed.
VARIA
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This works SO well.
I'd even settle for reusing the music from S1.
The current song just doesn't fit the visuals and fails to setup the tone of the show.
Just saw the premiere. And I think I have an understanding of why they wrote in a fictional city and fictional police department. I guess the writers want to imitate some of LA County's real life cities that have and still are experiencing corruption at the highest levels, i.e. City of Maywood, City of Vernon..
oh, I like that. Fits very well.
And we can tell from the previews that he's going to shave the mustache.. so it'll be like tying both arms behind his back?
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
Couldn't agree more. They really dropped the ball with this song choice for the opening credits. Visually though it's stunning.
Fancy Clown
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Nooo I didn't see that. Pour one out for the mustache
Just going to pretend they used this song instead of old man whispering.
Goddammit, it's so much better with the Lera Lynn song.
I'll do pilots from just the last five years (just so we can avoid the most obvious ones like Breaking Bad, Deadwood, Mad Men, The Sopranos, and The Wire) that were better than this episode, which is essentially a pilot:
Homeland: Turned in an all-time-great pilot for a first season that ranks as one of the best first and single seasons of any show.
True Detective season one: of course.
Transparent: Amazon struck gold with this amazing show. Incredible pilot and first season.
Justified: The pilot had all the personality True Detective's second-season pilot was missing.
The Returned: the French one, not the lackluster American remake.
Rectify: Season three will be the show of the summer. One of the top shows of the last few years.
The Killing: The pilot was great and had so much promise, but then the second half of the season happened...
Fargo
Orange Is the New Black
Masters of Sex
Top of the Lake
Game of Thrones
The Walking Dead
It's so good, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjg43nzSYck
I genuinely hate the new song, it's so awful.
Fancy Clown
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Nah I dug too. It's just, like everything else about the pilot, seemingly self-consciously trying to one up itself on gravelly, manly man, gritty, damaged detective fantasy. An approach which will simultaneously deliver great entertainment value and eye-rolling over the topness of this season I suspect.
Like Farrell telling a 12 year old he's evil as fuck, and ending the episode on a spinning three way shot of the three main characters glowering at eachother it is both profoundly stupid and incredibly enjoyable to watch.
It's slick as hell.
ZQQLANDER
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I read somewhere that Lynn composed the song specifically for True Detective, which is why I'm so confused as to why they wouldn't use it in the intro.
Trashcan Man
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A lot of this hate feels unwarranted.
Oof, I've completely been forgetting to catch up on s2 of this. Season 1 was the most original drama I'd seen on TV in years.
I like it. I liked all the music in this ep.
I love how California is portrayed so far. Maybe it's because I've never been there but it's giving off this almost outer worldly feel to it.
A lot of the music used in the episode was fantastic.
A lot of the music used in the episode was fantastic.
Fucking do it, man, haha.
Season three starts July ninth. Sadly, it's only six episodes like season one.
Fancy Clown
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The aerial shots are great.
Also, a lot of reviews are saying this looks like most cop procedural shows out there...that makes me think what fucking cop shows are they watching? I was super skeptical about Lin replacing Fukunaga, and while I think Season 1's cinematography is better, Lin is no slouch either. I thought the episode was shot pretty great for the most part, even if it was playing in a more familiar wheelhouse than the first season.
I feel the shorter season fits the shows slower pace actually, but at the same time I want more of the show.
MidnightCowboy
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Is there anyone that's swearing off the show based on this episode? It's funny, I fall in line with the negative crowd, but I still want to watch more.
The aerial shots are great.
Also, a lot of reviews are saying this looks like most cop procedural shows out there...that makes me think what fucking cop shows are they watching? I was super skeptical about Lin replacing Fukunaga, and while I think Season 1's cinematography is better, Lin is no slouch either. I thought the episode was shot pretty great for the most part, even if it was playing in a more familiar wheelhouse than the first season.
I love the music during the aerial shots.
Fancy Clown
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Was that the jazzy off kilter stuff? I really like that too, it reminded me of The Conversation.
Really? I think the score has been bad and discordant. The soundtrack, opening aside, has been pretty good, though.
I'm definitely not swearing it off. Apparently, the third episode is the best of the first three.
MidnightCowboy
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Definitely. There was like a thumping that just gave this sense of tension. Noticed it when Caspar was being driven as well.