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True Detective - Season 2 - We get the Season we deserve - Sundays on HBO
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I think it has more to do with shitting up the thread with hyperbolic hate. It's far too early to stop watching but it will get annoying if people are calling this one of the worst tv shows on television for the next six weeks.
i care about people being completely oblivious to the fact that theyre coming in here saying the same 3 points and then never coming back, rather than actually having intelligent conversation about the show
stop posting opinions and then never coming back/saying its the worst show on television when theres been 2 episodes
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top tier episode.
Discotheque
Banned
any commenting on future scenes as seen in a trailer should be spoiler tagged. this is common sense and i don't know how y'all are even trying to debate this tbh.
the look of the shooter at the end was definitely the most intriguing thing about this series so far, it was prolly the mask but he just looked pretty damn scary.
the look of the shooter at the end was definitely the most intriguing thing about this series so far, it was prolly the mask but he just looked pretty damn scary.
As soon as Ray walked into that house and the camera lingered on that car I had this thought: "What if this four main characters hing was misdirection and they kill one of them early?"
But I did not think they would actually do it, let alone in the second episode. Holy shit.
But I did not think they would actually do it, let alone in the second episode. Holy shit.
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Unless those were blanks, and he was wearing a vest.
chicko1983
Member
great episode.
True Detective is back baby!
True Detective is back baby!
The Driver
Member
Wow that ending tho. Surprised most of the early reviews kept that under wraps thank God. Dead Velcoro or not I dug it and this episode a lot. It's picking up for me even if parts are still a little lacking (Kitsch's arc straight up reminds me of that Onion article "Why do all these gay guys keep sucking my cock?"):
Also pretty surprised that the shooter looks a bit like a loonie. Pizza man made it seem like he really didn't care for the killer aspect of S1 so I wasn't expecting some weird bird dude (girl maybe?). Thought he would just opt for a faceless-corruption angle or something lol. Pretty cool. Gonna be hard to avoid spoilers for next week's episode, looks like some are already being posted here. Might just bail till next Sunday.
Also the theme song has grown on me a lot. I think it fits this season really well.
Also pretty surprised that the shooter looks a bit like a loonie. Pizza man made it seem like he really didn't care for the killer aspect of S1 so I wasn't expecting some weird bird dude (girl maybe?). Thought he would just opt for a faceless-corruption angle or something lol. Pretty cool. Gonna be hard to avoid spoilers for next week's episode, looks like some are already being posted here. Might just bail till next Sunday.
Also the theme song has grown on me a lot. I think it fits this season really well.
Discotheque
Banned
that gay plot was great in sopranos. not that i expect the same quality of writing in this show but still i think there's promise with kitsch's arc if they dig further into it.
talisayNon
Member
I think the best thing about this show so far is how it captures dat Cali setting highways, seedy cults, migrant laborers. Feels organic. Same with s1. Pizzaman has been good doing this.
Langdon Alger
Banned
Vaughn is really wooden.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
you don't have to spoiler tag your own speculation as long as it's not based on an actual spoiler
but yeah I could see that happening.
Fuck.
Getting more interested in it.
Vince was a little stronger this episode. Lots of great stuff from the other actors too. That major is hilarious.
Ray's chatter about the e-cigs was funny, and he said something else as well, slips my mind right now that had me chuckling.
Getting more interested in it.
Vince was a little stronger this episode. Lots of great stuff from the other actors too. That major is hilarious.
Ray's chatter about the e-cigs was funny, and he said something else as well, slips my mind right now that had me chuckling.
Great, great ending to this episode. I'm starting to really enjoy the tone and feel of this season. I get the impression the reason for it being difficult to get into this season is due to how it really does feel like a police/noir procedural. The first season had the two main characters narrating over 15 years worth of narrative, which made it very compelling and interesting to watch; character hindsight, unreliable narration etc... Whereas with this season we get what we are given as the story moves on, in the sense that it's a lot more linear and drama-like.
I'm starting to dig the aesthetic, the corruption of the city be it through pollution or human degradation. The intro really cements these themes and the use of David Maisel's photography is fantastic.
An inspired decision. I'm really glad that Pizzolato has decided to go with the different tone. The first episode definitely felt forced and a bit awkward but this second episode is starting to really get into the swing of things. Really looking forward to the rest.
I'm starting to dig the aesthetic, the corruption of the city be it through pollution or human degradation. The intro really cements these themes and the use of David Maisel's photography is fantastic.
An inspired decision. I'm really glad that Pizzolato has decided to go with the different tone. The first episode definitely felt forced and a bit awkward but this second episode is starting to really get into the swing of things. Really looking forward to the rest.
Thought this episode was a substantial improvement over the first.
In fact, I think this episode does about as good a job laying the foundation for the characters as the first.
It may be an interesting thought experiment to see which scenes from the first episode are absolute must keeps. I have a feeling that more than half of that episode could be safely excised.
In fact, I think this episode does about as good a job laying the foundation for the characters as the first.
It may be an interesting thought experiment to see which scenes from the first episode are absolute must keeps. I have a feeling that more than half of that episode could be safely excised.
DoktorEvil
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RIP Moustache. That was unexpected.
Colin Farrell's acting was the reason I stuck around for one more episode.
I can't stand Kitsch's wooden delivery of Woodrugh, but I can't determine whether or not that is intentional or poor acting ability.
Rachel McAdams had a super intense stare at that computer near the end. I hope that is implying addiction or dependency of some kind to porn.
Vince Vaughn's monologue in the beginning was a little too on the nose. I can't fully convince myself that this guy is the type of guy that has muscle and a crew, considering all of Vince's previous comedy roles.
Pizzaman has convinced me however that Season 2 won't be the same as Season 1, and that has me convinced enough to keep going and keep watching.
Yeah, the dialogue has been coming off worse than Season 1, but the setting and overall setup of a corrupt city under state investigation is an interesting premise.
I wonder how much of California is similar to that kind of setup Vinci has as a city? I mean, you can't call a place a city with only 95 residents and 70,000 laborers.
Colin Farrell's acting was the reason I stuck around for one more episode.
I can't stand Kitsch's wooden delivery of Woodrugh, but I can't determine whether or not that is intentional or poor acting ability.
Rachel McAdams had a super intense stare at that computer near the end. I hope that is implying addiction or dependency of some kind to porn.
Vince Vaughn's monologue in the beginning was a little too on the nose. I can't fully convince myself that this guy is the type of guy that has muscle and a crew, considering all of Vince's previous comedy roles.
Pizzaman has convinced me however that Season 2 won't be the same as Season 1, and that has me convinced enough to keep going and keep watching.
Yeah, the dialogue has been coming off worse than Season 1, but the setting and overall setup of a corrupt city under state investigation is an interesting premise.
I wonder how much of California is similar to that kind of setup Vinci has as a city? I mean, you can't call a place a city with only 95 residents and 70,000 laborers.
The Horror the horror
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Can someone explain to me the specifics of Frank's financial involvement with Caspere?
Was he holding Frank's money? Did Frank sell him property/assets and never got the cash? What was the conversation between Frank and those suits (e.g., 7 million vs. 10 million)? I'm lost here.
Was he holding Frank's money? Did Frank sell him property/assets and never got the cash? What was the conversation between Frank and those suits (e.g., 7 million vs. 10 million)? I'm lost here.
On "McAdams watching porn" scene:
They did a real half-ass job of blurring out the screen, I was kind of surprised HBO let that air. The video she watches is blurry enough for someone to feign ignorance over, but before that when she's scrolling down the page, not so much.
He was holding Frank's money and was facilitating the business deal, but it sounds like Caspere told Frank he needed 10 million when the people in charge of the project only needed 7, so Caspere was already taking Frank for a ride.
They did a real half-ass job of blurring out the screen, I was kind of surprised HBO let that air. The video she watches is blurry enough for someone to feign ignorance over, but before that when she's scrolling down the page, not so much.
He was holding Frank's money and was facilitating the business deal, but it sounds like Caspere told Frank he needed 10 million when the people in charge of the project only needed 7, so Caspere was already taking Frank for a ride.
Haloid1177
Banned
Lol I thought the same thing, can pretty much make out everything that was happening. Even the video was pretty obvious.
They were working on shady dealings to purchase some land. Frank gave Caspere the money to buy the land but he was killed before he was able to purchase and the money was presumably stolen. So Frank is in Limbo and it was a shady backdoors deal so the money is just gone.
SDCowboy
Member
First thing I wondered, too. Why in the WORLD would you holster your sidearm during that situation?
The mask was one of convenience from when he killed Caspere. There was a whole slew of animal masks on the wall with one empty space.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
the Antigone watching porn thing: At first I thought she was looking for her sister online but then she just kept going and going. Are we supposed to gather that she's sexually repressed? She'e clearly not sexually conservative given what she likes watching and given the state of confusion she left her guyfriend in the first episode but it didn't seem like she was deriving any pleasure from watching those videos.
Also, it was blatantly obvious that they were trying to hide the apple logo during that scene lol
Also, it was blatantly obvious that they were trying to hide the apple logo during that scene lol
The Horror the horror
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DoktorEvil
Banned
This is the same network that shows more butts and boobs and uncensors every fuck and shit uttered.
They will not censor that. The episode after all is rated TV-MA.
I guess he assumed that the house was where Caspere was tortured and no one would come back to the scene of a crime.
graffix13
Member
Yeah, I turned to my GF and said "Wow, I can't believe they are showing that on TV" and she was like "But, it's HBO". I mean, yeah...but it was pretty much hardcore porno stuff.
Overall for me the episode was better than the first but it's still a little slow going. It's picking up.
I don't think Ray is dead but I kinda hope he is just to shake the young story up.
Those dicks weren't flaccid, my friend!
SDCowboy
Member
Repressed sexuality in some sense seems to be a theme with some of the characters. It seems like they're building Woodrugh up to be secretly gay, also.
schlongdog
Banned
Did they just kill off the most interesting character in the second episode?
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Was McAddams watching those clips for work or for leisure?
SDCowboy
Member
XD I was a bit surprised by them showing that part, myself. Not that I cared, but it seems a bit much for a regular TV show. lol
DoktorEvil
Banned
Kind of like how Woodrugh doesn't derive any pleasure in getting oral from his live in GF, so much so that he needs Viagra at his age?
I think the idea that is being conveyed to the audience is that these people are emotionally damaged and sexuality plays a role in that damage.
SDCowboy
Member
Again, I'm pretty sure his character is supposed to be a closeted and insecure gay dude. Remember he said he almost punched the teller out for coming onto him. And at the end of the episode, he was drinking and checking out that guy (male prostitute?) who got dropped off by the car.
It feels very much like MGS 2, in that it is both very true to the soul of the original but also a big "fuck you" in terms of how different it is.
Love the vibes, but I get how it might be a big turnoff for someone looking for more of season one.
yes the 'punching guy who hits on you' is a classic tv shortcut for closeted
SDCowboy
Member
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or agreeing with me. lol
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
lol
haha Curious what his role will be throughout the rest of the season.Gnome said:
I am finding it quite amusing on what gaf thinks of the casting. Don't like x character, like y character, another says they like y character, don't like x character, whole casting is bad, whole casting is good. I think we have gotten every kind preference and opinion in terms of who is doing a good or bad job.
I do hope the show goes back to all of their pasts, similar to season 1. I would like to see at least one of their pasts in episode 3. Obviously we will get Colin's past (he has to be alive), but I do hope we see what the others did or had to go through including Vince Vaughn's character. It seems like Ray might be the douchebag possibly turning into likeable (redemption) character by the end of the season. His character is just as interesting as Rust from season 1 two episodes in, for completely different reasons of course. There isn't a dynamic chemistry of the characters, but I don't think there should be (yet). Three of them don't know each other, though I imagine Ray and Rache's character will get better over time. We already got a glimpse of it this episode. The show is clearly taking its time and I am ok with that.
I'm sure they will all be here until episode 8 to remind everyone how shit it is.Oscar said:
I'm really enjoying at the moment but I am not looking for a massive pay off at least until the latter half of the season.DoktorEvil
Banned
That wasn't a look of lust he had in his eyes when he was drinking... He had a violent look.
I'm more interested in seeing what the hell that scar was about and what Black Mountain was.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
I think it's pretty clear that VV is the weakest link so far. Hard to take seriously when youre supposed to and cartoonish at times, he just seems like a fish out of water this season.
Mind you, the character probably wouldn't work so well even in a capable actor's hands given the way he is written but it becomes all the more harder to try and accept him when VV just seems to have the same puzzled look 90% of the time.
Mind you, the character probably wouldn't work so well even in a capable actor's hands given the way he is written but it becomes all the more harder to try and accept him when VV just seems to have the same puzzled look 90% of the time.
SDCowboy
Member
Dude, that was a total check-out. There are a lot of signs though, He never wants to stay with his GF, the viagra, the insecurity about a dude coming onto him, and whatever that was with the guy getting out of the car. I mean, maybe he's not, but it seems pretty obvious it's leading down that road, to me.
It's pretty obvious that Woodrugh is closeted, IMO, and it's the same conclusion that Sepinwall's made.
1. Couldn't get it up for his girlfriend.
2. Anger at an open gay man in public.
3. Looking longingly at the gay and lesbian couples freely out on the streets.
4. Checking out the male prostitute on the corner.
Between "he's closeted" and "he's a sexual abuse victim that wants to gaybash," I'm going with the former.
1. Couldn't get it up for his girlfriend.
2. Anger at an open gay man in public.
3. Looking longingly at the gay and lesbian couples freely out on the streets.
4. Checking out the male prostitute on the corner.
Between "he's closeted" and "he's a sexual abuse victim that wants to gaybash," I'm going with the former.
I mean they had their weapons holstered after entering Casperes house too despite the scene they walked into.
Frankly though it was an odd directorial choice. I mean you can easily make that same scene with his gun un-holstered and still have the same outcome. Just have him looking the opposite way as the guy sneaks up on him and we see the reflection in the glass door. Bam. Still shoots him and the scene is more believable to the audience.
SDCowboy
Member
Thank you. It couldn't be more obvious. it's an interesting character development, too, since there seems to be an odd past with the character's mom.
Cornballer
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A couple of quick notes:
- Please spoiler tag any and all preview/promo discussion. This includes teasers, trailers, etc... Yes, we will ban people for this if they continue to do it.
- There is a wide variety of opinions on the show, and everyone that's watching is welcome to participate in discussion. However, please refrain from blanket statements about "people that love/hate the show" and any personal attacks directed at your fellow posters. If you disagree with someone and want to engage them, take the time to refute their points rather than insulting them.
Thanks for your cooperation, and enjoy the show....or enjoy hatewatching it. Whatever floats your boat.
- Please spoiler tag any and all preview/promo discussion. This includes teasers, trailers, etc... Yes, we will ban people for this if they continue to do it.
- There is a wide variety of opinions on the show, and everyone that's watching is welcome to participate in discussion. However, please refrain from blanket statements about "people that love/hate the show" and any personal attacks directed at your fellow posters. If you disagree with someone and want to engage them, take the time to refute their points rather than insulting them.
Thanks for your cooperation, and enjoy the show....or enjoy hatewatching it. Whatever floats your boat.
I've enjoyed both episodes so far and I think all leads but Kitsch are going a great job. But I'll give Kitsch a break and see how his character and story further develops.
Oh that's a good comparison.
Oh that's a good comparison.