They like being in power and too many of their voters are still on the Trump train.
Although it's really not letting them accomplish as much as they hoped, thank goodness.
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Trumps Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Info on Clinton
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Although it's really not letting them accomplish as much as they hoped, thank goodness.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
This is interesting. Whenever the idea of prosecuting Trump comes up, people always go nah, Congress will never impeach him. But Mueller can go after anyone else and Congress isn't required to do anything? Is that correct? If so, you're totally right, they need to go hard after everyone around him.
TheCochese
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Seth is grouped into the conspiracy theory morons now?
Nixon laid it out.
"Well, when the president does it, that means it is not illegal"
I see now, thanks for clearing that up! Jr's statement is all kinds of insane.
polyh3dron
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THERE IS NO COLLUSION
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There isn't any "evidence" in the article, however, I believe these two quotes are the most important lines:
If she did indeed produce the info about Hillary to the Trump campaign, then we have a smoking gun.
BrutishMrFish
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BrassDragon
Member
I'm sure Manafort has been flipped, the man really has no good options left. Since we're having fun with timelines:
August 14: Paul Manafort is revealed to funnel millions in undisclosed lobbying money on behalf of Russian interests (following an expose of his cash rewards from the Ukrainian puppet regime he served.)
August 17: Trump receives his first classified intelligence briefing and hears about direct links between the Kremlin and efforts to undermine the Clinton campaign.
August 19: Manafort is fired by Trump.
We could of course assume Trump was very discreet and circumspect with what he was told on August 17... but then we remember he is Trump.
Nah, not really. Trump still has a solid base that, at this point, the fever is still rolling. Getting rid of him now is going to cause a nasty backlash that they will feel in primaries, either through outright losses or being primaried out to other GOPs. They had their chance in the beginning to get rid of him, weather the fallout, and then move on with Pence, but they hitched their wagon to him and they have to let him drag with them until the yoke breaks.
Chris Hays probably said it best on his show at the end of last week. Right now there's a very fragile ecosystem they have built. Trump is the lynch pin that is keeping it all working by keeping his base energized and getting the less extreme GOP support, even if it's on shaky ground. Once that lynch pin is pulled, the whole thing explodes, and any hope they have of really getting anything at all done by midterms is basically shattered. Pence would be even more of a lame duck, if he even is the one who succeeds Trump (who really knows since the Russia stuff is so deep).
I mean, yeah, if they cared about decency or our democratic institutions, they would just weather it, but if they did, they would have gotten rid of the minute he refused to let go ownership of his hotels.
This is why I honestly still figure Trump will have a 4 full years short of hard video/audio evidence or something worse than we're even thinking. We're still at a point where Trump has probably about a 75-80% support from Republicans.
skullmuffins
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Yes. You only need Congress to go after Trump because it's generally accepted that you can't indict a sitting president. There are no such protections for anyone else and Mueller has full prosecutorial discretion to charge whoever he needs to. Trump could pardon or even pre-emptively pardon anyone of federal charges, but nothing afaik would stop Mueller from passing on info he uncovers to states so they could pursue state charges.
Username1198
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Because you know those evil republicans will say "dems being childish, name calling blah blah blah" all the while acting completely oblivious to the horrible names fuhrer tiny hands has called people in the past.
BlastProcessing
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@yashar
Hannity on 6/22: If I knew Russians had damaging HRC info + I worked on Trump's campaign, would it be illegal for me to ask them to release?
They have been laying the groundwork to defend this for a bit.
Hannity on 6/22: If I knew Russians had damaging HRC info + I worked on Trump's campaign, would it be illegal for me to ask them to release?
They have been laying the groundwork to defend this for a bit.
He has been for a long time now.
Hannity has been making it clear for a while now that "Collusion isn't illegal!" will be his go-to defense for Trump going forward.
TheCochese
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That's disappointing.
What does that have to do with the veracity of what he posted? If Jenny McCarthy said it was raining, and it was, it's still raining.
RPGCrazied
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Timeline: Don Jr meets Russian lawyer on June 9. Wikileaks dumps DNC emails July 22. Trump asks Russia to dump HRC's on July 25.
Its getting smoky in here.
Its getting smoky in here.
Bruce Springsteen
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That's nothing for a REPUBLICAN controlled house to impeach Trump, I'm not saying there wasn't collusion, I'm saying all these stories have been labeled as "the smoking gun" but without hard evidence I doubt much will come from this
NullPointer
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Yeah, there's no way that someone with Trump's moral fiber would ever stoop so low as to make a deal to acquire Russian hacking dirt to damage Clinton and the Democrats.
Its surely just a coincidence that everybody in his inner circle had so many secret contacts associated with Russian intelligence during the campaign.
And even if everyone in his circle was doing it, they've all shown themselves to work together as the tightest and most competent of tight knit units that it'd be easy to keep all of that from touching their boss. They're just that professional and disciplined.
And even if Trump did collude, hell, even if it was his own idea, there's no crime there, so people should just move on. Fox News understands this, unlike the fake news mainstream Democratic printing press machine.
Did I cover everything? Good.
Trump: Haven't spoken to him in years. Hardly know him. Don't even like him.
Username1198
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Lmao watch trump change his name back to drumpf
Autodidact
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RPGCrazied
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Yeah. He is home now. Its coming. Lets see how he can try and blame Obama.
ArkhamFantasy
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IF THIS MEETING WAS SO BAD WHY DIDNT OBAMA USE HILLARY'S SERVER TO STOP IT!? #MAGA
CampbellzSoup
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So a nothing burger as of now?
jack_package_200
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I wonder how fuckface Jeffery Lord will spin this on CNN
Pattycakes
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What are the odds that will actually lead to charges against them from Muller's investigation?
Mr.Shrugglesã
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Absolutely not a nothing burger. Just another piece to the puzzle that will be used to prosecute Trump and co.
Basically the opposite of a nothing burger. If this gets confirmed with evidence/proof, it's even bigger of a deal.
The talking point has already shifted to it not being technically illegal to do this.
Robot Pants
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Yea this'll surely get him impeached..... finally.....
Nah
Nah
...you post this, yet you somehow managed to miss the part where they noted the evidence.
"Mr. Manafort and Mr. Kushner only recently disclosed the meeting, though not its content, in confidential government documents described to The New York Times."
That's the evidence. Legal papers likely disclosed when Manafort was forced to register under FARA. The Times was told about all of this by people in the White House who knew about it.
Be honest, you didn't actually read the article before posting, did you?
jack_package_200
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The actual Bruce Springsteen would be very disappointed in him.
It's a long game, and Trump is so dumb that he's turned chess into checkers. Making it look real easy for Mueller's team.
Mighty Chin
Banned
This is beautiful.
Skinny Pete
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I'm sure he already knew about this. These idiots are going down.