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Trumps Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Info on Clinton
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tom cruise and kramer
BlackGhost
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Puzzle pieces
Got some receipts on that? Feel free to go into the past month of Trump articles and report back.
(Hint: That isn't how it works. Every piece of news is a piece to the investigation. Some are much bigger than others. This is an important one.)
BlastProcessing
Member
The fact that he has radically changed his story one day later doesn't seem significant to you?
Oh yeah, Mueller's gotta have had all of this for weeks now.
LOL
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Goldstone was there for the meeting with Veselnitskaya, per DJT Jr's latest statement.
BlastProcessing
Member
It was probably just laundry day.
Lmao
"Jr denied it, therefore no evidence of collusion!"
If you don't see through that blatant lie, I don't know what to tell you.
Beer Monkey
Member
The special investigation is ongoing.
Widdle Puppy
Banned
damn, what if his dumb loser sons are his fall guys?
savage on donald's part but it's obvious he doesn't care about them.
savage on donald's part but it's obvious he doesn't care about them.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
We're getting previews and teasers, but nobody's going to make a move until Mueller announces his findings. Sit back and enjoy the show.
skullmuffins
Banned
Yes. "I wanted to collude, but it turns out she didn't have anything and only really wanted to talk about adoptions".
Mr.Shrugglesã
Banned
Clearly he's banking on that pardon.
KernelPanic
Member
Setting up a meeting with a lawyer whose sole purpose is getting the Magnitsky Act repealed.
What could they possibly have talked about?
What could they possibly have talked about?
KernelPanic
Member
Sounds like Russia told Tom that along with Clinton's emails they have Xenu as well.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
What do you mean? they were just thinking of all the little children.
If Mueller finishes his report and doesn't recommend any charges...that's the time to worry (although there's still the NY AG investigation)
I have enough faith in mueller based on everything I've seen to trust his investigation
Obviously firing Mueller is a whole different thing and would immediately be alarming
The constant "nothing will come of this", "why isn't he impeached already?" is frustrating to see from people who I know have good intentions, but this kind of thinking doesn't help
KernelPanic
Member
You have to be thinking of little children a lot when you're poaching money from their charity.
If Mueller announced no charges its not some disappointing thing and he let you down and was untrustworthy the whole time, it would mean there was nothing. Either you have faith in his integrity or you don't, it can't be contingent on the outcome being what you want
I think it's pretty much an impossibility that no one is in trouble after the investigation. That outcome would directly contradict everything we've seen and heard pretty much daily since before the election.
Yeah. At this point, I've ultimately decided to put my cards down on Mueller. Obviously this doesn't count if it's the DoJ that decides not to follow up if he recommends charges.
Mueller has the power to charge people with his team.
skullmuffins
Banned
Well it would mean there was nothing that could be charged as a crime, or not enough evidence of a suspected crime to support an indictment (the Feds generally don't go after someone unless they're pretty sure they can win). In that case you'd be left with plenty of non-criminal but highly inappropriate and unethical stuff going on that Mueller couldn't do anything about (but Congress theoretically could).
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
What if he finds lots of wrongdoing but not enough to charge him with?
ken_matthews
Member
As this story develops, it is getting more difficult to believe that Trump was not aware of what his operatives were doing. Still, it is probably wise to wait for the investigation findings before committing to any particular conclusion. I am cautious because political stratagem has become so duplicitous and manipulative, and collusion does not have to be true for Russia's efforts to succeed; the idea of collision works just as well. Their goal was to cause chaos and undermine our democratic institutions. What do you think is going to happen if the investigation implicates Trump & Co in various schemes and illegalities? Things will likely get more chaotic; impeachment will not be easy and his supporters will not suddenly turn on him. And if the investigation comes up empty? Probably not outright chaos, but certainly continued dysfunction and increased distrust of our democratic institutions. Regardless of what happens going forward, I feel it is safe to say that Russia is winning the game that most of us do not realize we are playing.
I was under the impression they'd still need Rosenstein's approval.
Escape Goat
Member
This is delicious
In the newest season,
the Republican candidate loses the support of Republicans in congress because a tape containing his angry profanity-laden outburst was leaked.
...
Yeah.
TheCochese
Banned
No.
Thaedolus
Member
Dude Rosenstein appointed the former head of the FBI, a fucking legend assembling a legendary Voltron of prosecutors, to this case. You think he's going to be like "nahhh...let's not prosecute this..."
There are two options going forward: Mueller goes HAM and Trump and his cohorts are fucked, or Trump tries to reenact the Saturday Night Massacre and gets just as fucked. It's just a matter of time at this point.
Rosenstein getting pressured over time or the latter's more what I was worried about.
Well, not really, but Rosenstein can fire him. Which, he won't, but if he's fired and replaced the replacement might shut it all down.
Forgotten_Taco
Member
It's House of Cards with the characters from VEEP.
Chris Hayes tweeted this out again.
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/here-s-how-collusion-could-have-happened-981028931527
Makes all the sense in the world. Trump probably really did tell on himself months ago.
Yep. People have to remember it's not that just - against most bets - Risenstein hired a SP, but he specifically hired potentially the single best person for the job, who himself is not low-balling the hires for his team.
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/here-s-how-collusion-could-have-happened-981028931527
Makes all the sense in the world. Trump probably really did tell on himself months ago.
Yep. People have to remember it's not that just - against most bets - Risenstein hired a SP, but he specifically hired potentially the single best person for the job, who himself is not low-balling the hires for his team.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
You guys know that the WH spox just said that "Trump had no idea what his son and campaign manager were doing during that time".
He already threw Jr. under the bus.
He already threw Jr. under the bus.
Jr. can be pardoned. It's debatable if Trump can pardon himself.
Can we please stop letting jamokes freely shit up these threads by purposefully conflating ”no evidence of collusion" with ”no declassified evidence of collusion"? the shit mueller has that will put trump et al away might never get released period
will that mean people were prosecuted ”without evidence"? I'm so beyond sick of hearing the same characters say ”NO EVIDENCE" like a Serbian twitter bot
will that mean people were prosecuted ”without evidence"? I'm so beyond sick of hearing the same characters say ”NO EVIDENCE" like a Serbian twitter bot
skullmuffins
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