Support NeoGAF

[SatelliteOfLove]

Yeah, an abnormally large portion of the GOP's political beliefs ride on doing whatever agitates liberals the most. It's like they're throwing a temper tantrum before they lose their power as a voting bloc.

You've noticed that too huh? Good, good.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Seems like everyone is repeating the mistakes of the past election. National polls don't matter. Polls in the individual states and districts that are voting on vulnerable seats are the only ones of any use.

Your boy not doing so hot huh

 

[Lord Frieza]

I don't know, best I could find is Gallup's charts showing from Truman to now (http://www.gallup.com/poll/116677/p...ings-gallup-historical-statistics-trends.aspx).

And from it, it looks like Nixon with mid 20's (this is only looking at the charts on the lowest each president got, not comparing on similar time in their presidency).

History repeats?

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Good to hear.

 

[The Last Wizard]

Aka basket of deplorables™

Don't call them that, we shouldn't be talking down to them. /s

 

[AYF 001]

Yeah, an abnormally large portion of the GOP's political beliefs ride on doing whatever agitates liberals the most. It's like they're throwing a temper tantrum before they lose their power as a voting bloc.

Man, I bet everyone on GAF would totally be triggered if they started treating other people with respect and not being selfish fools. Like our safe spaces would be useless once they started educating themselves and there'd be so many tears if they voted for democrats too.

 

[Maintenance]

https://twitter.com/pbump/status/862368572013760512

Stoln from Studyguy in poli-Gaf

Oops, nvm.

 

[Lord Frieza]

Man, I bet everyone on GAF would totally be triggered if they started treating other people with respect and not being selfish fools. Like our safe spaces would be useless once they started educating themselves and there'd be so many tears if they voted for democrats too.

Wut

 

[Easy_D]

36 percent are doofuses. wonder what he is doing so far that could be approved by 36 percent? Must be lovers of golf

They're just too stupid to know any better, simple as that

Wut

I think it's intended to come off as reverse psychology

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Seems like everyone is repeating the mistakes of the past election. National polls don't matter. Polls in the individual states and districts that are voting on vulnerable seats are the only ones of any use.

National polls were more accurate than state polls in 2016 (and more accurate than national polls in 2012)... State polls were junk last November.

Got any more ways to hand wave away data that doesn't fit your pessimistic view of politics?

 

[FStubbs]

National polls were more accurate than state polls in 2016 (and more accurate than national polls in 2012)... State polls were junk last November.

Got any more ways to hand wave away data that doesn't fit your pessimistic view of politics?

Here's one:

There's a long time between now and Nov 2018.

And the Democratic party is completely incompetent.

 

[slit]

I think Bush got down to 32 at his lowest. I want Trump to go below that.

 

[Lord Frieza]

National polls were more accurate than state polls in 2016 (and more accurate than national polls in 2012)... State polls were junk last November.

Got any more ways to hand wave away data that doesn't fit your pessimistic view of politics?

He's a hardcore Trumper, so his agenda is less about pessimism

 

[Lord Frieza]

I think Bush got down to 32 at his lowest. I want Trump to go below that.

Bush was at 22% when he left office.

 

[Linkura]

I don't know what the lowest ever is, but Bush ended his second term with like 22% or something like that. But he never got near this low in his first year.

I don't know, best I could find is Gallup's charts showing from Truman to now (http://www.gallup.com/poll/116677/p...ings-gallup-historical-statistics-trends.aspx).

And from it, it looks like Nixon with mid 20's (this is only looking at the charts on the lowest each president got, not comparing on similar time in their presidency).

I figured it was W but I wish they actually cited the exact source for this in the article.

 

[HStallion]

Man, I bet everyone on GAF would totally be triggered if they started treating other people with respect and not being selfish fools. Like our safe spaces would be useless once they started educating themselves and there'd be so many tears if they voted for democrats too.

I'd treat it with suspicion myself. People rarely just change and groups of people are especially immovable.

 

[slit]

It looks like Bush was at 25 at his lowest according to Gallop.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/presidential-approval-ratings-george-bush.aspx

 

[neurosisxeno]

I think Bush got down to 32 at his lowest. I want Trump to go below that.

Trump's low so far is 35. I imagine if Flynn gets indicted and the Russia Investigation turns up something legitimately concerning he will drop below 32 soon enough.

 

[Lord Frieza]

It looks like Bush was at 25 at his lowest according to Gallop.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/presidential-approval-ratings-george-bush.aspx

There's probably some variation depending on where you go, but basically 22-26% is where he ended up

 

[AYF 001]

I'd treat it with suspicion myself. People rarely just change and groups of people are especially immovable.

They'd still be reactionary contrarians, just not nihilistic self-destructive ones. But if they insist:

 

[CrankyKong]

Why are the Gallup numbers so stable since inauguration ?

 

[Wheatly]

only?

 

[chekhonte]

God how much longer can his presidency go on? I can't imagine 3 to 7 + years of this.

 

[SolarPowered]

15% too high

He needs to sink down into the low twenties.

 

[Lord Frieza]

Why are the Gallup numbers so stable since inauguration ?

Uh, they aren't? It's steadily been going down. Unless you mean something.

 

[AngmarsKing701]

Won't be happy until it's 0%.

Brofist.

 

[Buckle]

Waaaay too high.

Need it to be at -10% to accurately match his performance by the time he's out.

He makes Bush look run of the mill.

 

[CrankyKong]

Uh, they aren't? It's steadily been going down. Unless you mean something.

Sure but it's a very slow decline. He keeps hovering around the 40% mark

 

[Lord Frieza]

Sure but it's a very slow decline. He keeps hovering around the 40% mark

It's only been 100 Days lol

 

[Systemwarrior]

Still too high.

This.

 

[foxuzamaki]

Maybe it's a southern thing, but "trying" to me has always been synonymous to "trying my patience":

Yeah I thought the same

 

[hodayathink]

According to that poll, he still has a 82% approval rating among Republicans, which is just amazing (in a bad way, of course). I would think that for his approval rating to get below the 30s, he's going to have to go below 70% in his own party, but I don't know if I see that happening unless he really screws something up or some bombshell about Russia comes out.

 

[Lord Frieza]

According to that poll, he still has a 82% approval rating among Republicans, which is just amazing (in a bad way, of course). I would think that for his approval rating to get below the 30s, he's going to have to go below 70% in his own party, but I don't know if I see that happening unless he really screws something up or some bombshell about Russia comes out.

It's been lower than 82 before, at least I've seen some polls where it was like 76. And while the number is still crazy high for all the shit he's doing, it has been steadily dropping, because at one point it was in the 90s. Bush got down to 22, and he was not even close to this low in approval ratings at this point, so it's very possible that Trump could drop below 30% by the end of the year if current trends continue, or stay just above it.

 

[StrategyFan]

very little has actually changed for most people because trump hasn't actually accomplished anything except behaving like a child, which was not unexpected to begin with

 

[Zolo]

According to that poll, he still has a 82% approval rating among Republicans, which is just amazing (in a bad way, of course). I would think that for his approval rating to get below the 30s, he's going to have to go below 70% in his own party, but I don't know if I see that happening unless he really screws something up or some bombshell about Russia comes out.

For what it's worth, this is when ratings are supposed to be highest. It's certainly still possible to get lower once they start implementing decisions that affect everyone's day-to-day life, how crises are handled, etc.

 

[theWB27]

I'm surprised there's been no really announcement

 

[StopMakingSense]

According to that poll, he still has a 82% approval rating among Republicans, which is just amazing (in a bad way, of course). I would think that for his approval rating to get below the 30s, he's going to have to go below 70% in his own party, but I don't know if I see that happening unless he really screws something up or some bombshell about Russia comes out.

FWIW, you also start running into issues with party ID. People will more ID as independent the less popular the president gets.

 

[bgbball31]

I know, almost all of my political posts are in reference to my dad, but I figure that republican voices don't get a lot of play here and you may be interested in what their takes are.

5 minutes after being confronted with this information, he said that a lot of the big things Trump has planned won't happen till after the mid terms, when Republican's obtain 60 seats in the Senate. Laugh away.

 

[Zolo]

I know, almost all of my political posts are in reference to my dad, but I figure that republican voices don't get a lot of play here and you may be interested in what their takes are.

5 minutes after being confronted with this information, he said that a lot of the big things Trump has planned won't happen till after the mid terms, when Republican's obtain 60 seats in the Senate. Laugh away.

For the people I know, it's that Trump needs time to get used to his position. Of course, they also think he's an idiot, and that both candidates were bad. They thought Clinton was a war criminal while Trump was just incompetent.

Spoiler

Of course, I'm not convinced they'll ever vote anything other than Republican.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

UPDATES

@MarkHarrisNYC
Trump's Gallup approval drops to 38%--lowest since 4/2. It's a 3-day poll that includes just 1 day of post-Comey-firing reaction. More tmw.
https://twitter.com/MarkHarrisNYC/status/862744377969561601

21% approval of AHCA
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/11/poll-obamacare-repeal-bill-popularity-238272

Less than a quarter of American voters surveyed in a new poll released Thursday by Quinnipiac University approve of the legislation passed last week by the House of Representatives to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.

Fifty-six percent of those polled said they disapprove of the legislation, dubbed the American Health Care Act, while just 21 percent said they support it. The support for the legislation represents an improvement over the 17 percent who said they supported the iteration of the bill that failed to pass the House in March.

Overall 66 percent said they disapprove of President Donald Trump’s handling of healthcare, while 32 percent said they approve of it.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Mother of god...

 

[Lord Frieza]

UPDATES

@MarkHarrisNYC
Trump's Gallup approval drops to 38%--lowest since 4/2. It's a 3-day poll that includes just 1 day of post-Comey-firing reaction. More tmw.
https://twitter.com/MarkHarrisNYC/status/862744377969561601

21% approval of AHCA
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/11/poll-obamacare-repeal-bill-popularity-238272

The bump in AHCA approval tells me a decent chunk of voters are now doubling down to root for the team since the win, but the fact that it's not even in the 30%s is really telling of how little this thing is wanted.

 

[darkwing]

wow, so steady increase in AHCA support? yikes

 

[Lord Frieza]

wow, so steady increase in AHCA support? yikes

A little bit, but I'm not looking too much into unless it keeps going up. I feel like it passing the House, and being such a big news story, got a chunk of GOP loyalists on board that were tepid before. If it keeps going up and hits like 35-40%, at that point I will be really disappointed and worried