Agree and disagree. On the less on-the-nose problematic policies of say a Rubio, they may be silent. A lot has been written about Trump though, and I can almost guarantee that this latest announcement is going to face stiff backlash from within the party.
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Agree and disagree. On the less on-the-nose problematic policies of say a Rubio, they may be silent. A lot has been written about Trump though, and I can almost guarantee that this latest announcement is going to face stiff backlash from within the party.
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Racist?
whats sad is I know people who agree with him, and I mentioned this
i honestly wish i could have just jumped off the planet the other day when I heard someone say "see! this is why we need Trump for president, to get these fucking mooslims out of here"
this was in regards to the San Bernardino shooting. They never once said "see, this is why we need to get these christians out of here" in regards to the other 1000 mass shootings this year.
Father_Brain
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The line to see Trump in Yorktown.
The Republican base.
If I were a conservative intellectual, I'd be rather disturbed at the folks who've hijacked my party.
I'm pretty sure "hijacking" is the wrong term to use.
Most "conservative intellectuals" have enabled, if not always actively supported, the rampant demagoguery and anti-intellectualism that's made Trump's candidacy possible.
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Just need to add he has Japanese friends who agree with him.
Yellowtail
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The line to see Trump in Yorktown.
The Republican base.
If I were a conservative intellectual, I'd be rather disturbed at the folks who've hijacked my party.
https://twitter.com/alivitali/status/673992689012989952
soul creator
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Here's one "conservative intellectual": https://twitter.com/BillKristol
Bill Kristol ‏@BillKristol 37m37 minutes ago
Trump has entered John Birch Society/Pat Buchanan territory. Important to save conservatism from him.
Bill Kristol ‏@BillKristol 43m43 minutes ago
Good news: Trump's statement reeks of desperation. He knows he won't be nominee.
Bad news: The statement itself is bad for the country.
I'm sure he thought the Iraq War was good for the country though!
this is your reaction after reading this thread? you know he also said we should force american muslims to register with the government, and he's been openly racist to mexicans and blacks for months? why would praising internment be the line he doesn't cross?
i honestly don't get why there's always a few people in these threads willing to give trump the benefit of the doubt
Good on him, but I wonder what he was thinking when Romney was namedropping W. Cleon Skousen.
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True, but the establishment has just used that sort of stuff, from Nixon's Southern Strategy on. Well I guess the Southern Strategy is still operable. That's been status quo since the late 60s.
The anti-intellectual and anti-establishment demagogues have just been in ascendance over the party since 2010.
Trump as presidential nominee could really derail the GOP. I just don't know where it goes from here.
wild wild rice
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So what you're saying is his poll numbers will continue to increase.
Joel Was Right
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I think what his supporters really want him to say is that he wants to deport all Muslims.
Nerd_Incognito
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I know the comparisons of anything to Hitler is overused, but this man is straight up channelling der Fürher's penchant for rallying a certain group together in a fear-based "us versus them" platform.
It's not funny anymore. It's terrifying. He's essentially a Nazi.
It's not funny anymore. It's terrifying. He's essentially a Nazi.
kristol was one of the neocon leaders in the push to get us back into iraq. he was trying to get clinton to invade back in 98.
lol
he also really loved sarah palin, so to see him balk at trump is kinda weird.
Because he speaks his mind!
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I don't give him a benefit of the doubt, but invoking internment as a positive moment in our history that made us safer really isn't something you can read into the NYT article.
He walked back the Muslim registration thing a little. Blamed the reporters or something. He's an arrogant loudmouth who shoots his mouth off.
why yes, they are.
Neuromancer
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The good news he has zero chance of winning the general election. Literally zero.
It's going to be a pisser for Muslims serving in the U.S. military then
j_k_redtail
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Just wait until he loses. That is when the crazy truly begins.
Team Alucard
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If Trump is the nom and there is a major coordinated Islamic terrorist attack on U.S. soil next year he will get 60%+ of the vote, I guarantee it. People are dumb and easily manipulated by fear.
TAJ
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Ross Perot has the same amount of money. They're both terribly unskilled investors.
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save us Korra pls
What about vaguely-middle-eastern-but-not-actually-muslim-just-brown-skinned-americans?
Somehow I'd expect his "everyone" to cast a wider net than it actually needs to.
Listen, even Hitler won his election. Don't underestimate the bigotry of the voters when they are taught to fear. Stoke the fears of people enough and they will kill their own mother.
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I'm so sick of hearing from this piece of garbage clown
triplestation
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this is conservative of trump, this aint shit
im waiting for his real main event
im waiting for his real main event
You Are Viewtiful
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Sorry but I'll never live "Hope Hicks" down. An unfortunate name but at least she lives up to it.
I'd barely call what Hitler had "winning". Unless Trump supporters turn into some neo-SS and start beating up more BLM supporters and Clinton staff, I think we're a long way off from Trump winning the election.
HerbertBirdsfoot
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Yeah, I'm done being entertained by crazy though. I want his candidacy to sink and for him to get off the stage.
NerdEyeBlind
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Okay how much more of this before we actually need to panic that Trump could become president? Its another 5-6 months, no?
EatinOlives
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The bad news is that even though Trump goes away his rhetoric and poisonous thinking doesn't.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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Don't be surprised. Conservatism has always done a remarkable job of hiding the true ugliness of the movement.
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There are even people on GAF posting they don't even support his policies but will vote him in over their preferred candidate because he's entertaining.
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it's february
I wonder if Germans said this before hitlers rise to power
It's not "literally" zero, and that should be troubling enough.
Apart from that, the election is not even the main issue. The main issue is that he has pushed the debate on the issue of Islamist extremism so far to the right and turned it into such a massive xenophobic and demagogic shit show that it is making anti-Muslim bigotry more socially and politically acceptable as a result. Just wait for more and more parts of the electorate and other politicians to follow him into crazy land.
EricTheCleric
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Voting for Trump is like voting for Hitler. Not voting at all is like voting for Hitler.
Go and vote sane American members of NeoGaf!
Take a look at how things are going in the EU nations (fascists are gaining steam) and you might not be too confident in this.
Go and vote sane American members of NeoGaf!
Take a look at how things are going in the EU nations (fascists are gaining steam) and you might not be too confident in this.
The line to see Trump in Yorktown.
The Republican base.
If I were a conservative intellectual, I'd be rather disturbed at the folks who've hijacked my party.
If I was a conservative intellectual, I would be a Democrat as they actually practice fiscal conservatism and avoid government overreach into my personal life.
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