Trump campaign has just $1.3M cash on hand

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EmCeeGramr said:
It's apparently a real company, but it was only incorporated in December and despite supposedly being an web ad firm has no online presence.



Oh, and reminder that Trump's next FEC filing will happen in the middle of the convention, but after first ballot.
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So it might just incompetence. I can't wait to get more info on this company. The entire thing stinks to high heaven.
 
AniHawk said:
does it matter? the people who voted for him are going to be pissed if he doesn't take it. i guess in that case the rnc might be able to fund more senate and house races, which would suck, but it also might result in a very low republican voter turnout, which would be great.
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There's still the odd chance that Cruz could rally voters and turn this ship around; or at the very least, salvage the downticket races like you mention.

Trump riding this trainwreck to November, though, is the crushing dream defeat we deserve.
 
Grizzlyjin said:
So it might just incompetence. I can't wait to get more info on this company. The entire thing stinks to high heaven.
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There seems to be reliable chatter that it's a side gig run by some guy out of his house, while his real job is... working for some medical nonprofit involving genetically modified pig skin for skin grafts.
 
Zophar said:
There's still the odd chance that Cruz could rally voters and turn this ship around; or at the very least, salvage the downticket races like you mention.

Trump riding this trainwreck to November, though, is the crushing dream defeat we deserve.
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Is Cruz really a worthwhile alternative to Trump though? Like, at least he's not an outright conman, but he's still that other guy that everyone hates but maybe a smidge less.
 
royalan said:
https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/745098363155132416
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Haha people in the comments recreating the epic @dril tweet.

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EmCeeGramr said:
There seems to be reliable chatter that it's a side gig run by some guy out of his house, while his real job is... working for some medical nonprofit involving genetically modified pig skin for skin grafts.
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Sounds legit.
 
starting to think he won't make it to the convention. ultimately he probably will, but the chances of delegate fuckery are probably breaking about 50/50 at this point
 
Pepto said:
So the person with the most money wins?
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Not necessarily - Jeb blew $100 million during the primaries and got nothing for it. But in a general election, how can he possibly compete in swing states when he has no money for advertising, no money for campaign staff, etc.? It will be on force of personality alone, and Trump has a toxic personality for tens of millions of voters.
 
There's a good Washington Post article about the Trumpster fire:

The Daily Trail: Donald Trump's day started out bad. It got worse.

—By this point in 2012, Romney had named a leadership team in the critical battleground state of Ohio, and opened more than a dozen "victory centers" there. Trump has done neither of those things yet. That's different.

—So is campaign hiring in general: by June of 2012, Romney had fully-staffed teams working on communications, data, rapid response, and the ground game. Trump does not, with a national staff roughly 1/10 the size of Clinton's.

—Four years ago, Romney Victory sent around $26 million to the RNC in May 2012 to support efforts in the field, raising the national party's total haul for the month to around $34 million. Trump Victory sent around $3 million last month, bringing the party's total for the month to $11 million.

—In June of 2012, Romney was being outspent by President Obama on TV ads, shelling out around $38 million to the Obama campaign's $45 million. Trump is being outspent too. The difference lies in strategy and scale: As of this morning, Hillary Clinton and her allies had reserved roughly $117 million in ad time between now and Election Day, including more than $20 million in key swing states over the next few weeks alone. The Trump figure for that same period, as of this morning, was $0. (There are no digits missing. That is "0," as in "zero," as in "none at all," which is also the amount of sleep GOP officials are getting right now, probably.)

(Late this afternoon, a pro-Trump super PAC announced a $700,000 buy. More on that below.)

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Some perspective here: those might be decent numbers. Maybe...if Donald Trump were running for Senate (though not if he were running in his home state.) Or if he were running for president sometime in the 1970s. As it stands, they are jaw-droppingly bad. Here's how bad: Ben Carson's campaign has more cash on hand right now than Trump's does. More than a month ago, his team said he would be making good on his "self-funding" pledge by converting the loans he's made to his campaign — which accounted for nearly all the funds he'd provided — into a gift in the "near future." Since then, he has repeatedly referred to that gift in the past tense. If he's made good on the pledge, it's not evident on the form tonight, which lists more than $45 million in loans made or guaranteed by Trump, and less than $400,000 in outright contributions.
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More at the link.
 
Risette said:
Is Cruz really a worthwhile alternative to Trump though? Like, at least he's not an outright conman, but he's still that other guy that everyone hates but maybe a smidge less.
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Cruz can convince Trump's base to vote for him in Nov. They are both basically the same, but Cruz just packages the bullshit in an eloquent way. I think the reason most GOP elites hate Cruz is because he's stubborn as hell, but he's still a Republican and they will support him in the end. He will also have no problems with funding. He won't win in November though, he is a terrible GE candidate. The GOP will die an instant death with Trump and a slow one with Cruz. The latter is still preferable.
 
johnsmith said:
People keep saying this, but what's the last positive news cycle Trump has had?
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No need for a positive news cycle, he's on television 24/7 - why have a dedicated ad budget if the media will give you prime time news coverage for free?
 
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He's listed his Scotland golf course trip this week as an official campaign event so that he can reimburse himself for a private business trip
 
JohnTinker said:
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He's listed his Scotland golf course trip this week as an official campaign event so that he can reimburse himself for a private business trip
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I mean I don't get it. The dude functioned, paid for these kinds of things on the regular before he had campaign money to dip into, so why is he doing this? Is it that he just can't resist trying to get things cheap or is it that he no longer has enough money pouring in because he is dedicating his time to his campaign?
 
rjinaz said:
I mean I don't get it. The dude functioned, paid for these kinds of things on the regular before he had campaign money to dip into, so why is he doing this? Is it that he just can't resist trying to get things cheap or is it that he no longer has enough money pouring in because he is dedicating his time to his campaign?
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You don't get rich by paying for things.
 
EskimoJoe said:
I'm really starting to think they're gonna try force Trump out. I mean, I'm not sure they can, as they've never been able to before, but they sort of have to.
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You force him out and then what? Who takes over? And when they do take over, they effectively have three months to campaign and try to make up ground. They have to hire staff and raise money. They actually have to organize a campaign. Booting him does not stop the fact the Clinton and her allies have $100 million+ in ads already paid for and waiting to air. It does not stop the fact that she and her allies will likely continue to raise $20-$50 million per month from here on out. It does not stop the fact that she and her allies have almost 1000 staffers and counting organizing in swing states. The RNC can only do so much. Frankly, if I was a GOP strategist, just tell the RNC and others to forget the White House. Go all in on the Senate and House because Trump is likely to burn it all down. I really don't think the RNC understands just how much damage Trump has done...win or lose.
 
Knoxcore said:
You force him out and then what? Who takes over? And when they do take over, they effectively have three months to campaign and try to make up ground. They have to hire staff and raise money. They actually have to organize a campaign. Booting him does not stop the fact the Clinton and her allies have $100 million+ in ads already paid for and waiting to air. It does not stop the fact that she and her allies will likely continue to raise $20-$50 million per month from here on out. It does not stop the fact that she and her allies have almost 1000 staffers and counting organizing in swing states. The RNC can only do so much. Frankly, if I was a GOP strategist, just tell the RNC and others to forget the White House. Go all in on the Senate and House because Trump is likely to burn it all down. I really don't think the RNC understands just how much damage Trump has done...win or lose.
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Probably Cruz. He has far less money than Clinton ($7m versus like... $90m) but versus Trump...
 
Knoxcore said:
You force him out and then what? Who takes over? And when they do take over, they effectively have three months to campaign and try to make up ground. They have to hire staff and raise money. They actually have to organize a campaign. Booting him does not stop the fact the Clinton and her allies have $100 million+ in ads already paid for and waiting to air. It does not stop the fact that she and her allies will likely continue to raise $20-$50 million per month from here on out. It does not stop the fact that she and her allies have almost 1000 staffers and counting organizing in swing states. The RNC can only do so much. Frankly, if I was a GOP strategist, just tell the RNC and others to forget the White House. Go all in on the Senate and House because Trump is likely to burn it all down. I really don't think the RNC understands just how much damage Trump has done...win or lose.
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Trump was just the fire waiting to happen because the kids were playing with matches. Trump is horrible but they brought this on themselves. I really hope when they start doing their rebuilding and planning they actually take the time to consider what got them here instead of just blaming Trump.
 
rjinaz said:
I mean I don't get it. The dude functioned, paid for these kinds of things on the regular before he had campaign money to dip into, so why is he doing this? Is it that he just can't resist trying to get things cheap or is it that he no longer has enough money pouring in because he is dedicating his time to his campaign?
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His self funding was all in the form of loans he always intended to pay himself back with was my understanding.

Now that it seems possible he won't re-coup it he's doing this shady "paying himself" technique.

Looking at that one tweet.. don't see how he can't get in trouble for this. He pays himself a salary, then pays the EXACT SAME amount to both his payroll co. and one of his other LLC's.

I understand that if he uses his own building for something he can pay some money to his company from his camp aign funds; but how do totally unrelated payments end up the exact same amount down to the pennies? It's like he's taking an income amount, dividing it by a number, then spreading it equally across things.

And then other expenses.. are listed like "Trump Tower $9,000".. how does anything work out to an even amount like that?
 
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