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Trump casually endorses war crimes during White House meeting with airline execs
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GurgleBot20
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I would like Trump or any of his devoted supporters to at least give a small summary of what "taking the oil" would even look like in practice.
Did you hear about his massive crowd sizes at inauguration?
Did you hear about his massive crowd sizes at inauguration?
Pai Pai Master
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Because he has nothing of real value to say.
GurgleBot20
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I imagine it looks something like the gang from "It's Always Sunny" filling up trashcans with gasoline.
tearsintherain
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Thats a positive thing imo, it means any future possible wars in this administration will have risk/reward scenarios and if its a money pit with no benefits then don't do it.
If someone in the Bush administration had thought before the Iraq war "hey... how much will this cost us? What will we get out of it?" maybe we wouldn't have attacked.
also our actual attack on civilians in Iraq, destroying the infrastructure, not really having a system to replace anything, putting idiots in charge, not understanding the Sunni/Shia split, fomenting ISIS, and a million other things we did in Iraq were war crimes. Saying it would be nice to have kept some oil is not a war crime, just a really crass and stupid thing to say.
what it really is, is code for "we don't do military interventions for free for anyone anymore."
If someone in the Bush administration had thought before the Iraq war "hey... how much will this cost us? What will we get out of it?" maybe we wouldn't have attacked.
also our actual attack on civilians in Iraq, destroying the infrastructure, not really having a system to replace anything, putting idiots in charge, not understanding the Sunni/Shia split, fomenting ISIS, and a million other things we did in Iraq were war crimes. Saying it would be nice to have kept some oil is not a war crime, just a really crass and stupid thing to say.
what it really is, is code for "we don't do military interventions for free for anyone anymore."
I mean jesus christ. Can you imagine? You run an airline and have to listen to this asshole ramble on about these things. You'd have to be sitting there thinking "is this idiot for real?"
At least bullshit about jet fuel or jet fuel pipelines or whatever the hell, something some what relevant.
But no its all "ah the Trump Power glove is so bad. Its way bad. I'm the baddest. I'm gonna kill those terrorists til they are so killed, you won't believe how killed they are. Do you see how big my biceps are? They are like really strong, I'm the strongest president ever they say people tell me all the time. We should totally kill terrorists families."
It'd be like attending a meeting to negotiate trade only to be met by a guy in a black robe screaming 'Unlimittteedd POOOOWWWAAHH'
#awkward
Or - it means that Trump will pull the country into battles with an eye towards what he can pillage over what use it serves, and he will put nothing into helping the devastated country he attacks, leading to more people that despise the U.S. and have little or nothing left to lose.
Even by making such monstrous statements Trump is endangering Americans. If I were an Iraqi citizen and heard the stuff Trump is saying - if I had had any trust in the U.S., that would be gone, and I would be much more likely to hate Americans.
GurgleBot20
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Trump's the kind of person who would mess up a photo op involving him reading to children by bragging about how nice his hotels are and how bad the ratings for Schwarzenegger's Apprentice are.
It's because he has absolutely no substance, no self-awareness, and no shame.
So he just talks about himself all the time, regardless of the context or situation.
nocturnalis
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Bush would have done it anyway. He was planning on attacking Iraq ever since he got in office. Anything to prove himself to daddy dearest.
Elaugaufein
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Invading other countries to loot their stuff is a war crime ( https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v1_rul_rule50 )
It's so ridiculous he keeps fucking saying this. We have allies in Iraq that are fighting ISIS with and for us. Why the fucking hell would you basically say you regret not committing war crimes against them and that you'd be ok with doing it in the future? This rhetoric literally puts our military in danger, as does his fucking ban.
I have to think there are a lot of military leaders and soldiers on the ground just fuming at this shit.
I have to think there are a lot of military leaders and soldiers on the ground just fuming at this shit.
That's next week
I sure hope they're fucking pissed about it. He's literally talking about spending human lives for a "return on investment" in the form of pillaging oil.
I'm pretty sure soldiers risk their lives to defend their country, not help some dickwad line their fucking pockets.
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With someone like Trump, the government would have attacked, and committed war crimes. What will you say if the next president or trump himself says ' we should have kept the women', is that also better?
No, it's code for "I'm a fucking moron." The dude doesn't know what he's talking about and he's just spouting idiocy.
How do you "take the oil?" You do it by occupying a country indefinitely. He's telling the world we're willing to occupy your country indefinitely.
yeah, this is right out of his stump speech. Even his first speech after inauguration
not really news
we even had a thread with the war crime title: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1275421
PeskyToaster
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I don't think Iraq was ever a major source of Us oil but it was probably better to have a kind of receptive regime in charge rather than Saddam Hussein to sell oil. Of course Trump is already pissing that away.
UnemployedVillain
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Why did he bring up The Aprentice on the National Day of Prayer?
Why did bring up crowds at the CIA HQ?
Why didn't he bring up Jews when talking about the Holocaust?
The dude's a fucking idiot is why
It will be Hillary's fault. Somehow, someway. Why won't somebody stop that woman from voting???!!
nelsonroyale
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Trump is obviously clinically insane. I mean what does he think he gains by saying stuff like this at that type of meeting in an official capacity?
Nydius
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Meanwhile, General John Nicholson is claiming "thousands more troops and billions more dollars" will be needed for Afghanistan. Guess that will be the staging area for the impending middle east invasions and oil taking. As a bonus, they can control all the poppy fields. =/
If USA invades Iran, all those shaky governments in the Middle East are gonna fall like dominoes. In a few years when a new president removes the troops from the devastated region, the vaccum will create a new Islamic State that will dwarf the current one.
DorkLord54
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Isn't that exactly what the Shatnerians did, though?
Nydius
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No doubt. But it seems clear that Trump (or Bannon, or both) are adamant on starting at least one, possibly multiple, military actions under the guise of nationalism. Neither of them can grasp the idea that things like the travel ban and the saber rattling play directly into the recruiting message of extremist organizations.
We used to cringe at McCain singing Bomb Iran but now we have an administration who seems intent on doing so. While also pissing on China and Korea.
I imagine it would only make money for russian oligarchs because operating and defending those oil fields (after rebuilding them because those things would burn at the beginning of the war) and occupying the country indefinitely would be way too expensive.
So basically it would be like running a pretty shitty business, a Trump business after all. Sadly I can see him doing that, more if his friend Tillerson offers him a cut of Rosfnet or similar.
To be fair, war time is the perfect excuse to make broad, sweeping policy changes under the guise of "We're at war, folks, sacrifices gotta' be made if we're gonna' win, and you DO want to win, don'tcha'?"
All they need is the critical terrorist attack on US soil to make the justification and they can go all out. They really need America to get hit in some way before they can get the people behind them.
Bounceounce
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Dude literally won't stop bringing this up.
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