SuperEpicMan
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I suspect the only reason he hasn't been impeached already is because way too many republicans would go down with him, its in their interest to prop him up.
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Trump Fires James Comey
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nailbombxx
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Let's hope not. But they can easily convince many supporters if the entire GOP, and all of the "trusted" right wing media (AKA not fake news) play it which is what they've been doing. Not all, I'm sure. Not everyone is going to fall for something so transparent just because they say that the Democrats actually wanted him fired and Trump was doing them a favor - I don't think that's enough to cover up the blatant corruption of firing someone who is leading an investigation against you for everyone.
They take their base for complete rubes who will believe anything they say when everything is backed by Fox News and Breitbart. Trump, and the GOP in general have been conditioning their supporters to assume that everything that they disagree with is fake.
We know that Trump is an incompetent moron, but I have a hard time believing his staff didn't think this was going to blow up. Most of them have 2 brain cells to rub together.
Louise Mensch is a nut.
GoldenEye 007
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It's the same net effect. Someone will be appointed that will in turn ensure Trump and co are not touched. The investigation will be neutered and the overall effect is the same.
Lord Frieza
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Why? Because of the low turnout in the last two midterm elections? What about the ones before that, just weird years?
Fuckwits implies they're idiots, though. I think they know exactly what they're doing.
acheron_xl
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It seems like a more serious, macro version of the "I was just making a joke!" defense.
The reason he hasn't been impeached is because over 80 percent of Republican voters still approve of Trump.
balladofwindfishes
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This isn't on pause until 2020, not by a longshot. It starts and continues on before that. Journalists will keep looking into it. The IC will keep leaking. In 2018, we win the house, we start a house investigation (a proper one, not the shame going on now).
The ball is going to keep rolling. Giving up now and just waiting around until 2020 is what they want. It's why they did this. Let's not let them do that.
Yep, all smoke and no fire
BoogieWoogie
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How many seats do we need to win to get the House? How difficult is it looking right now?
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I'm certain that this whole "we didn't see the backlash coming" thing is just a lead in to the Clinton deflection.
Lord Frieza
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Well just under 80% but close enough
The fact that McCain isn't actively opposing Trump after the shit Trump said about him shows just how gutless McCain actually is
Carpe Libertatem
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do people just not remember midterms before 2010 or what
yea the key witness in a murder trial gets found dead somewhere. The precious optics on that are fantastic.
you don't think it looks bad for Trump to fire the person investigating him? Historical precedent alone says its a fucking terrible look RE Nixon and Watergate.
@marrec i agree everyone needs to not lose their minds. But this is a big deal.
Unbelievable that such a huge voter block in the US thrives off of nothing but pissing off the other side as much as possible. It speaks to their rampant narcissism if nothing else
All it makes me think is there is evidence that will sink Trump and he can't let it go any further.
Russia and Rex are probably looking at their only chance to get the sanctions lifted. I wouldn't be surprised if Russia are demanding Trump get on with it as he is in bed with them and his family.
Russia and Rex are probably looking at their only chance to get the sanctions lifted. I wouldn't be surprised if Russia are demanding Trump get on with it as he is in bed with them and his family.
Same should be said about Ted Cruz.
RPGCrazied
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All this and now the Russian foreign minister is at the white house. Something smells bad here.
After all the Russian's did on our elections we invite them into the white house. Just ew.
After all the Russian's did on our elections we invite them into the white house. Just ew.
LegendofJoe
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I fervently wish we could come together as a country to rewrite our constitution but it isn't going to happen. I've come to terms with the inevitability that the country will break apart. Parts of the country have and still are doing great things for the world, but our national government is irrevocably broken. As you said we need to rewrite our constitution to fix it and for the life of me I can't see a realistic way we could get there outside of war or a dream pie in the sky scenario where the people unite against the government.
In the end it may be the best outcome for us. The progressive parts of the country will finally be able to move forward and adapt to the realities of the world without the anchor of regressive hate and willful ignorance holding them back. I'm hoping that the break up will be relatively peaceful. I don't expect there to be a United States of America when I reach my golden years.
Lord Frieza
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24, and there are 24 seats that are competitive enough right to swing left, and if Georgia, Kansas and Montana special elections are any indications, there may be a lot more areas up that wouldn't be otherwise. It's definitely possible
benjipwns
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Most likely case scenario of a Russia investigation: Criminal cronyism gets found out, some fines are paid. It goes on the big chalkboard of scandals we erase with each new administration.
"Best" case scenario that people apparently believe: Exposure of elaborate plot by Trump associates and Russian state officials to gain access to John Podesta's e-mails and leak them despite their irrelvant content in a manner that causes the Clinton campaign to misallocate campaign resources and lose the election in exchange for a friendlier foreign policy to Russia like the Obama Administration entered office promoted only with a properly worded "reset" button.
In either case remain chasing your tail over politik-as-sport and ignore any notions about rolling back the military-administrative-police state that actively harms American and global citizens through continued rampant violence because whaddya gonna do, that's the American state for you. And if you can praise the Patriot Act in the process and claim firing a Presidential appointee is an even worse precedent for civil liberties and justice, great!
Cruz has probably defended Trump more than he defended his own wife
Lord Frieza
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There will be a United States I believe, but a civil war type event is coming and it's going to define the course of the country for many years to come, and it will be insanely violent and quick
Another Republican, Rep. Barbara Comstock of Virginia, calls for an independent investigation into Russia/2016.
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Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) says it'd be "premature" to call for a special prosecutor on Russia/2016; she's concerned it'd harm Senate probe.
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Ted Cruz sides with Trump in the firing of James Comey.
All from https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/862312079860150276/photo/1
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Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) says it'd be "premature" to call for a special prosecutor on Russia/2016; she's concerned it'd harm Senate probe.
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Ted Cruz sides with Trump in the firing of James Comey.
All from https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/862312079860150276/photo/1
Indeed. Heads roll not just to keep individual players in check in terms of political power games but also as an effort to maintain some kind of faith in our systems of government wherein government officials serve at our pleasure and are beholden to our standards of conduct.
Without consequences political posturing will just become an even more transparent facade and we will soon see even more peoples faith in government institutions crumble, which should really worry anyone in government with a vision that extends beyond the next election.
Veritigo_X
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Wow we've got a Russian agent right here on gaf.
balladofwindfishes
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Nobody ever does.
So I am streaming Fox News and I haven't watch Fox News since the 2000's...WTF, so this is what Fox or right wing news is like? I am raged when I hear them say, and I am summarizing, "you have to ask, how does Trump doing this benefit him...Comey is let go, but there are still career people investigating him...if anything, it will come back to bite him..."
These idiots can't see why Trump firing Comey would directly benefit him or that he would fire him in a desperate act? Fuck off Fox fake news.
These idiots can't see why Trump firing Comey would directly benefit him or that he would fire him in a desperate act? Fuck off Fox fake news.
It's that and the Republican PR machine that constantly paints Democrats as being scum of the earth and pure evil. Some probably don't like Trump, but to them it will always be better then having a nasty Democrat in charge
Nah. She cray.
shadow_shogun
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At least McCain is on of the few republicans putting up a front against the firing of Comey.
24 seats. Tough, but not impossible. And increasingly looking more possible every day.
Gotta keep it simple, as we all just learned.
ResidentWeevil13
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I would personally celebrate Trump's impeachment if it ever happened, but I think the reason he hasn't been isn't because 80% of Republicans still approve of him.
Maybe it has to do with the fact that there's no concrete evidence the man is guilty of "treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors." Not yet anyway
Call me when McCain actually does something
Mighty Chin
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Seeing Republican Leadership falling in line after the initial shock has taken the joy out of the Subpoenas being issued.
BronsonLee
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No, I'm pretty sure that while she's been on point with this stuff so far she's a loony bin candidate
Even if the pee pee tape comes out, I could see Sean Spicer or Kellyanne Conway trying to spin it and cast doubt on it. "How do you know that is the President? Or that the tape isn't doctored?"
What's needed is someone going into the White House, bugging the phones, and really digging up dirt and revealing everything about Trump.
Veritigo_X
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Oh sorry, that was a joke. She calls anyone that questions her a Russian agent. From celebrities to Twitter comedians.
At least McCain is on of the few republicans putting up a front against the firing of Comey.
Then why isn't his wrinkly ass on the Congress floor demanding a special prosecutor?
I watched last night and had to turn it off when Hannity came on.
I totally understand there's going to be bias and editorializing across the talking heads segments, but Hannity last night was just...gross. Purely disingenuous, completely misrepresenting previous clips wrt Comey and how the Dems have flip-flopped, "you won't see this anywhere else, folks". Just nauseating.
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