Trump plans to focus on infrastructure, starting with privatizing air traffic control
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Lower prices for airlines. And of course those airlines are going to pass those savings on to customers because reasons!
Gotdatmoney
Member
Would you want every major highway tolled?
Pagusas
Elden Member
Not at all. I was just saying there are some benifits. But they are outweighed by the cost.
CitizenVectron
Member
For those panicking, it looks like they will be following the model established in Canada, which is to have non-profit organizations take over the individual ATC systems of each airport. It's worked well in Canada, generally, so this shouldn't be a disaster.
It also looks like the unionized employees will remain so, which is good news.
It also looks like the unionized employees will remain so, which is good news.
If you want to take the idea of privatization to the extreme...
The Pareto principle says that the last 20% of results cost 80% of the effort. What would keep a privatized air traffic control industry from deciding that a small number of fatal crashes is an acceptable cost of maximizing profits? If they could make 250% more profit by dropping a safety check that prevents only 1 fatal commercial air crash a year, would they take it (especially in Trump's America, where regulations to prevent this are considered 'burdensome' and ripe for repealing)? Sometimes, safety should trump cost, and air traffic control is one of those times. I don't trust the Trump administration to make any choice that results in any of us being safer.
The Pareto principle says that the last 20% of results cost 80% of the effort. What would keep a privatized air traffic control industry from deciding that a small number of fatal crashes is an acceptable cost of maximizing profits? If they could make 250% more profit by dropping a safety check that prevents only 1 fatal commercial air crash a year, would they take it (especially in Trump's America, where regulations to prevent this are considered 'burdensome' and ripe for repealing)? Sometimes, safety should trump cost, and air traffic control is one of those times. I don't trust the Trump administration to make any choice that results in any of us being safer.
Question: do you trust the Trump administration enough to do that correctly?
Haha, I was about to post something similar
@FAANews administrator on @realDonaldTrump proposal
https://twitter.com/davidshepardson/status/871797746981892096
https://twitter.com/davidshepardson/status/871797746981892096
The fuck. Over 300 a month in tolls? This is what I am worried about. Currently I pay zero on tolls. My state has managed to keep up with roads and repairs somehow. I pay income tax but it's less than what you pay in yearly tolls. Potentially paying less in taxes and then getting jacked by tolls is a horrible trade off in my opinion.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Not only would we get jacked by tolls but the amount we pay in tolls would be more under a privatized highway system than state/federal owned why? Because companies can't collect state tax.
The second issue, with a state/federal owned highway system we can vote in/out politicians to fix issues. You as a citizen can't vote for shit on a company's employees. It's one thing to vote with your wallet by not purchasing a product, but good luck not using a major road way to get to work but instead taking another smaller roadway (that too will be privately owned) adding to your commute time with no real benefits since you'll probably pay a toll anyway. Multiple that by a shitload of people deciding to take that side road as well and congrats, you're probably going to say "fuck it" and go back to that main road.
Once the highway system goes private it doesn't go back.
ATC going non profit is fine, but I don't trust the Trump administration to do right by the citizens of this country so I'm against it on that principle.
Our highway system going private is unarguably the worst idea ever. Anyone for it are being incredibly shortsighted and are basically giving up power for nothing really in return. One day people will finally realize that services that exist to better/help American citizens lives are always going to run opposite of maximizing profits. They're incongruent with one another.
Nerdkiller
Membeur
So if it expires anyway I assume Trump will just veto it if it passes? Sounds about right, his whole mo thus far has been killing the government through inaction and incompetence.
The senate is fully in "fuck off Trump" mode. He's just a pen to ratify bills to them.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
Thank God
Whatever Trump wants, the Senate should feel free to reject. Especially since the president is inserting himself into deliberations with maximum pain for vulnerable Republican senators.