Fenderputty
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That's not very super duper
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Trump pressures Democrats on Obamacare to get border wall deal
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That's not very super duper
RPGCrazied
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I didn't want this. I voted for Bernie and Hillary thank you very much. This isn't exactly a liberal haven.
Vicetrailia
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Don't need the racist policy, but the racism itself may as well stick though.
HP_Wuvcraft
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I have no idea what he thinks anymore.
Bruce Springsteen
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so you admit this is just politics as usual then
Imperfected
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Just the most tremendous negotiator. I'm sorry, "deal-maker".
what a pussy. stick to your guns ya turd.
RPGCrazied
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Border security money. LOL
He just wants to hire more ICE agents to deport innocent people. How about no Trump. No deal.
Dubbedinenglish
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Art of the deal.
Imperfected
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Tomorrow: Trump amends request to, "Take whatever you want, just let me tell people I won."
EatinOlives
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The Dems are gonna get tired of winning lmao
BoogieWoogie
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The biggest pussy. The yugest.
Dems should say they'll give him $5, but he's gotta beg for it.
I H8 Memes
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It's only Monday and Trump already has another policy failure. Back around to Tex Reform next.
Darryl M R
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90D chess master! He starts the negotiation high and then lowers to what he actually wants! XD get rekt liberals.
/s for the love of God
DontBeThatGuy
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I can't believe he's managed to get so much accomplished!
Secret negotiation tactic #14533953: Surrender in Advance
RPGCrazied
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Its just really hilarious. He droned on and on about how Mexico would be paying for the wall. Not once on the campaign trail did he say I'm going to need your tax payer dollars up front first!
Lies.
Lies.
"What's this? A border for ants?!""1.5 billion dollars" to build the wall.
Hah, sure.
"Mr. President, the wall is done, but uh, in order to meet your requirement for 'beautiful wall' we had to cut some corners."
MEXICO'S GONNA PAY FOR THE WALL
Mexico - "nah"
WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT FOR NOW AND GET MEXICO TO PAY US BACK
Mexico - "still nah"
Democrats - "nah"
OK WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT FOR A WHILE, PLEASE JUST GIVE ME SOMETHING HERE
Dems hopefully - "nah"
He's truly the master of negaotiations
National Correspondent for NBCNews just tweeted;
Edit: Also noted by Chuck Schumer;
Keep taking those fucking L's.
Edit: Also noted by Chuck Schumer;
Keep taking those fucking L's.
FinaruDensetsu
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I don't get why Trump doesn't just go on twitter and tweet something like, "The super duper wall is complete, it's the tallest and biggest and most beautiful wall that's ever been created!"
His supporters eat up all his other lies anyway, why wouldn't they believe this too?
His supporters eat up all his other lies anyway, why wouldn't they believe this too?
Futurevoid
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Does the man really not understand what it means to have no leverage in a negotiation? It's amusing how the Dems have gone from powerless to sitting in a corner and just letting this dude hang himself with his own words. Not that his base will give a shit either way but still.....
Imperfected
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And this is the fucking Democrats we're talking about, here. They don't even have that strong of a negotiating position right now (they control nothing!) and have a long history of bitching out at the first sign of internal dissent or the potential to have to stay at work late enough to miss the early bird special.
I mean, they're basically the worst negotiators in the world. Second worst, apparently.
700D blindfolded underwater backgammon.
It's not that he's negotiating with us. It's he's having problems even getting members of his own party on board. The GOP can't govern and Trump is a fucking terrible negotiator.
Trump's position is deteriorating by the day, if Schumer plays this smart he can be the guy that adverted a shutdown and get a bunch of Dem initiatives funded in addition. This is all while making Trump look like a goddamned moron.
Aaron Strife
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Example #9483290243 (just from the Trump administration) as to why starting out from the most extreme position possible in negotiations doesn't work. Democrats had no incentive to say yes to this.
BoogieWoogie
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Trump: DEMOCRATS! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! HEALTHCARE! WALL
Schumer: Shhh Grandpa, go back to Mar A Lago now.
Trump: Grumble Grumble Grumble
They should allocate for him exactly one cent
ArkhamFantasy
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So
1.Mexico is going to pay for it
2.Mexico is going to pay for it through import taxes
3.Mexico, at some poiint in the future, may pay for it some of it
4.I'll settle for some extra security
Master negotiator, the art of the deal on display here. It's particularly impressive when you take into account his other wins like with healthcare, tax reform, and muslim bans.
1.Mexico is going to pay for it
2.Mexico is going to pay for it through import taxes
3.Mexico, at some poiint in the future, may pay for it some of it
4.I'll settle for some extra security
Master negotiator, the art of the deal on display here. It's particularly impressive when you take into account his other wins like with healthcare, tax reform, and muslim bans.
BeforeU
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Fuck man how is this loser a billionaire and a POTUS
Life is indeed unfair
old manatee
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I love the phrase 'this go around'. Like they think they are going to get border security money AND the wall money later.
KuwabaraTheMan
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The best dealmaker in history!
The ridiculous shitnisnhe probably could have gotten that done if he didn't start with holding the health care subsidies hostage for the wall, or campaigned on this big crazy wall.
Something small ball like "more money for border security" probably could have gotten through but e played hardball in a way where the democrats can't reasonably give an inch
Imperfected
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Don't forget his hardline negotiations with China, who are now going to do nothing about North Korea and are no longer currency manipulators or aggressors in the South China Sea.
Dude Abides
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This dipshit obviously just heard about MS13 yesterday.
EatinOlives
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I'm better at bartering for shit in Civ V than Trump is at his """negotiation"""
Imperfected
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He's using those sick AI negotiating tactics.
"Give me all your cities and luxuries if you want peace!"
--2 Turns Later--
"Okay, give me one crappy border city and I'll call it a day."
--2 Turns Later--
"Give me some chocolate and we're square."
--2 Turns Later--
"Take all my cities but my capital and just leave me alone."
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
and once again reality puts Trump in his place
If "usual" you mean standard order modern Republicanism, laced with the typical atrocious hate for lower income and racism, only tied to an idea even more dumb and politically incompetent than usual, sure!
Somehow though Im sure you just thought you were being clever when you tried to carry water for Trump for the 9,389th post and once again failed miserably.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I'll think they will give him the inch but I don't expect anything radical in the budget like the cancellation of all the programs like AmeriCorps, and PBS. I actually expect it to be more or less the same because the republicans can't face the media if they shut the government down on themselves.
Premium Quality
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Like I said before, the simplest way to fix this problem is for Trump to start a crowd fund for the wall.
Those that want the wall would pay for it. There would be no need to get the ACA involved in this. This could also spare programs like school lunches and meals on wheels.
Those that want the wall would pay for it. There would be no need to get the ACA involved in this. This could also spare programs like school lunches and meals on wheels.
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