NihonTiger90
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Not yet, but he's always a pretty good read/watch.
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Trump takes shots at Kaepernick, Get that son of a bitch off the field
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Not yet, but he's always a pretty good read/watch.
Elwood Blues
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Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
Really? That's fucking rad
Night.Ninja
Banned
Dam never heard of nick wright but he went in so much truth
The last clip
Could have shed a tear
The last clip
Could have shed a tear
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
The game was in Oakland, which probably helps a great deal.
I thought it was pretty decent actually. They still used the platform of Monday Night Football to make a statement as a whole organisation. "Weak" would have been a "conscience vote" approach where only a few knelt with Jerreh nowhere to be seen. Decent statement from an organisation known as "America's Team".
Let's not get up our own asses with an all-or-nothing purity benchmark on this stuff. It was a great week for the NFL as a whole. Congrats to them all.
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Hansen Unplugged: Anthem protests not about disrespecting the flag
Hansen Unplugged: Anthem protests not about disrespecting the flag
Megalosaro
Banned
I wish this was real.
Yeah, it will probably deliver some short term political gains for him, but I'm not convinced over the long term.
The conversations will keep happening and more minds will be swayed for the better.
It's a quick win for a desperate Trump but if he keeps racking up the Ls everywhere else, it will mean nothing. He's just giving a quick dirty handjob to his base to ease the tension and let them (falsely) believe they are the good guys.
Good shit.
Yep, I thought what the Cowboys did was perfectly fine and it made a statement in a way they felt would be heard..and at the same time not immediately attacked or ignored.
And even with kneeling BEFORE the anthem there were still some idiots calling their method disrespectful to the flag and anthem...at that point people just want to be mad and theres no intelligent discourse to be had.
Tom Nook
Member
Nice.
WTF does America mean in this context? His supporters? What about the millions upon millions of us that dont agree?
helloresolven
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Hasphat'sAnts
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The Civil Rights Movement was also extremely unpopular in its day. Nothing we haven't seen before.
Yup. This is the way it always is. Don't worry, in 30 years, everyone will claim to have been on Kaepernick's side.
Amazing monologue
I like this rush to find some sort of "symbolic unification" that is a "protest" that doesn't upset people too much. lol.
Kaepernick must just be smh. I look around the NFL and I see a lot of really weak gestures (dallas included) with a lot of confused people who are trying to balance what they believe with what people might think and how that might affect their employment or sponsors. Pathetic.
Brock Reiher
Banned
I'm not going to attempt to predict poll numbers because (a) anyone who submits basic moral decision making to a popularity contest is a sociopath and (b) 2016 has taught me never to overestimate the moral decision making of my fellow Americans, but virtually the entirety of this article is intellectually dishonest at best.
Dash_Riprock
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The cynic in me thinks that whoever signs him will do so to sell football jerseys. He's garnered so much interest he would easily become one of the most sought after tops for those willing to show support.
I wonder if it could have been... but years ago and staged as part of a scene. Anyone know what source was worked with for this?
Give me a fucking break.
They had a team discussion about showing unity and as a team thats what they decided to do. The goal is to bring people together..and more importantly send a message to those who normally wouldnt hear it.
Yeah as a team they decided to avoid the issue to the best of their ability. Next time they'll do something REALLY edgy like hold a press conference. They are protecting the NFL shield but what they are doing really has zero to do with what started this.
Weak.
This is even better than kneeling tbh.In "baseball is not a sport" news:
I think it is from a funny or die gag from 2016 with a bit of compositing/fx, with the source being the infamous Billy Bush interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=63&v=aMqhoYjY2X0
based on the Reebok super bowl Terry Tate ad,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2NjFEyceJw
You're so pure. <3
Uh huh...
Answer this question honestly..what message about equality and racial injustice would reach right wing hard liners more effectively? Which is the ENITIRE POINT of these protests to begin with..
A. The whole team kneeling during the anthem?
B. The whole team kneeling before the anthem to force those right wingers to actually think about the act instead of immediately getting mad and ignoring/dissmissimg the message cause MURICA.
Colonel Nasty
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A. And it isn't close.
I also don't have a problem with those who want to stand. The national anthem doesn't have to mean the same thing to every player. Why have an 'act of unity' when different players feel different ways about what the anthem means and what they are trying to communicate.
A. Because they'll ignore B. and pretend nothing is wrong.
You think they aren't pretending that nothing is wrong already?
You must have been living under a rock for the past 2 months if you really believe this. The act of kneeling during the anthem has become more about an Us Versus Them war then about bringing attention to equal rights. People simply ignore the message and get mad..you cant even argue this.
Because thats what the team decided to do.
I dunno, maybe I just imagined all their triggered whining over the anthem protests yesterday.
excelsiorlef
Member
Goddamn that's good.
excelsiorlef
Member
Where's any evidence that B is true?
Where's evidence that B is actually even about the issues Kaep raised and not more just a "statement" against what Trump said.
And next week they'll have a rally followed up with the players sitting in a circle singing Kumbaya, My Lord with plenty of time to stand up before the anthem is played.
Yes, weak...and meaningless. Trump is smiling.
ISee
Member
Could someone please give me a short summary/explanation what's happening here?
As far as I understand some athletes are kneeling down for the us anathema. They do this to protest against trump? While other people think they disrespect the flag? (By kneeling down in respect?) From an outsider perspective there is a big question mark on my face.
As far as I understand some athletes are kneeling down for the us anathema. They do this to protest against trump? While other people think they disrespect the flag? (By kneeling down in respect?) From an outsider perspective there is a big question mark on my face.
None yet..the Cowboys message just happened.
But theres tons of evidence A is failing, just look at all the super mad people this weekend.
So youre not gonna respond to my post with any substance, good talk I guess.
excelsiorlef
Member
I generally don't believe in tailoring my protests around what pisses off conservatives the least.
Now youre just being daft, but Ill respond..
Youre basically choosing keeping the message pure..(or something).. over attempting progress. Its attitudes like this that keep things as divided as they are.
It's these attitudes and not the racism?