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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/us/politics/trump-vehicle-emissions-regulation.html

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is expected to begin rolling back stringent federal regulations on vehicle pollution that contributes to global warming, according to people familiar with the matter, essentially marking a U-turn to efforts to force the American auto industry to produce more electric cars.

The announcement — which is expected as soon as Tuesday and will be made jointly by the Environmental Protection Agency administrator, Scott Pruitt, and the transportation secretary, Elaine L. Chao — will immediately start to undo one of former President Barack Obama’s most significant environmental legacies.

The regulatory rollback on vehicle pollution will relax restrictions on tailpipe emissions of carbon dioxide and will not require action by Congress. It will also have a major effect on the United States auto industry.

Under the Obama administration’s vehicle fuel economy standards, American automakers were locked into nearly a decade of trying to design and build ever more sophisticated fuel-efficient vehicles, including electric and hybrid models. The nation’s largest auto companies told Mr. Trump last month that they found those technical requirements too burdensome.

On Feb. 21, a coalition of the 17 largest companies that sell cars in the United States sent two letters to Mr. Pruitt, asking him to revisit the tailpipe rules. They said it may be “the single most important decision the E.P.A. has made in recent history.”

They complained about the steep technical challenge posed by the stringent standard, noting that only about 3.5 percent of new vehicles are able to reach it. That even excludes some hybrid cars, plug-in electric cars and fuel cell vehicles, the automakers wrote. “Even today, no conventional vehicle today meets that target.”

The automakers estimated their industry would have to spend a “staggering” $200 billion between 2012 and 2025 to comply and said the tailpipe emissions rule was far more expensive for the industry than enforcing the Clean Power Plan.

 

[Metaroo]

2018 is gonna be do or die isn't it?

 

[plebator.jayus]

This has gotta be parody

 

[Shadow Puppetry]

....que?

 

[TAJ]

Let's set global warming aside for a second. Remember how disgusting LA was in the '80s? I don't think the most conservative person wants to live in that again.

 

[Derwind]

Rather than force automotive companies to innovate the production of new & cleaner cars, we're just going to walk backwards on this.

What a piece of shit.

 

[StarCreator]

Let's set global warming aside for a second. Remember how disgusting LA was in the '80s? I don't think the most conservative person wants to live in that again.

Conservatives don't remember shit that happened three months ago, let alone three decades ago.

 

[ponpo]

The E.P.A. will also begin legal proceedings to revoke a waiver for California that was allowing the state to enforce the tougher tailpipe standards for its drivers.

States rights :^)

 

[Incarmine]

Let's set global warming aside for a second. Remember how disgusting LA was in the '80s? I don't think the most conservative person wants to live in that again.

Then again, I don't think LA and other big cities are exactly full of conservatives.

 

[BSsBrolly]

I get the impresssion Trump has asked for a list of everything Obama did and makes his decisions based on that. He does the opposite of everything on that list, no matter what.

 

[adj_noun]

The EPA on the side of pollution.

Well, they did say it was a change election.

 

[NoRéN]

Let's set global warming aside for a second. Remember how disgusting LA was in the '80s? I don't think the most conservative person wants to live in that again.

The most conservative person doesn't live in L.A. No fucks given by them.

 

[ThisGuy]

He's like the rind of an orange. A bitter man.

 

[ezrarh]

This is why it's more important than ever to start rebuilding our cities and towns around bikeable, walkable environments that can be supplemented around bus and other forms of transit. We weren't ever going to save the world by remaining dependent on one of the more inefficient ways of commuting.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

I want to see protests now.

 

[shira]

The coal rollers will be happy

 

[Dan]

On Feb. 21, a coalition of the 17 largest companies that sell cars in the United States sent two letters to Mr. Pruitt, asking him to revisit the tailpipe rules. They said it may be “the single most important decision the E.P.A. has made in recent history.”

LOL. What a joke.

 

[Hale-XF11]

2018 is gonna be do or die isn't it?

At this point, it's all we can hope for. It'll be interesting to see if people are still too apathetic to vote for someone different or vote at all.

 

[Makki]

VW should be like, ok then we dont do buybacks lol

 

[titiklabingapat]

Let's set global warming aside for a second. Remember how disgusting LA was in the '80s? I don't think the most conservative person wants to live in that again.

Thankfully the state of California and us Angelenos ourselves don't want that either. Everywhere else is fucked though especially red states. Enjoy your cancer.

 

[RM8]

All non-America countries should build a dome around America.

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

ROAL COAL!

 

[Dash_Riprock]

So, should I start investing in gas masks? Cause I have a feeling they're gonna be huge in a couple years...

 

[Creaking]

States rights :^)

Only red states.

 

[jb1234]

Let's set global warming aside for a second. Remember how disgusting LA was in the '80s? I don't think the most conservative person wants to live in that again.

They don't have to. Only the heathen liberals gather in cities.

*sigh*

I was hoping I'd be alive for a time when I didn't have to breathe exhaust fumes outside. Now it's looking further from reach.

 

[99Luffy]

All non-America countries should build a dome around America.

Pretty sure most european cars would have failed under those guidelines too.. especially german cars..

 

[L Thammy]

Maybe climate change is a cyclical thing. Like, fuck up the planet hard enough and you land on normal again.

 

[VariantX]

Conservatives don't remember shit that happened three months ago, let alone three decades ago.

They seem to only remember the 40's and 50's, because all they want to do is go back there before we learned shit about anything, like finding out that polio can be taken care of with a vaccination.

 

[Dead Prince]

Clean coal and pollution. Making USA great again

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Might as well bring back leaded gasoline, too.

...


Time to punch conservatives and libertarians who applaud these backassward moves.

 

[Madness]

Eff America at this point. This is who they wanted (overall states), they live with the consequences. It's like the morons who voted for him cannot see the damage he will end up doing because hey he's deporting illegal immigrant fathers dropping kids off at school. Seems like they want LA to overtake Delhi and Mexico City and Beijing as most polluted in the world again. Rolling back clean water regulations. Wanting US made steel pipelines delivering crude oil all over through pristine lakes and forests. I guess the goal in making america great again was to make it so shitty no one wants to come or stay. It is why refugees are literally risking death and frostbite to escape Minnesota into Manitoba.

 

[sir_kevith]

How long until Mar-a-Lego is submerged?

 

[RM8]

Pretty sure most european cars would have failed under those guidelines too.. especially german cars..

Orange clown actually denies global warming, though. He's just getting started.

 

[R10Neymarfan]

This is why it's more important than ever to start rebuilding our cities and towns around bikeable, walkable environments that can be supplemented around bus and other forms of transit. We weren't ever going to save the world by remaining dependent on one of the more inefficient ways of commuting.

Haha. They aren't down for publically funding this shit. Maybe you can convince him and the GOP in the new "infrastructure" plan

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

Quick Mazda you got 4 years, get us a new RX7!

 

[ArchedThunder]

Trump and all the Republicans in office are disgusting, sub human filth.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

They seem to only remember the 40's and 50's, because all they want to do is go back there before we learned shit about anything, like finding out that polio can be taken care of with a vaccination.

Weirdest part is that the vast majority now either weren't even alive back then or were just babies.

 

[Acorn]

Trump is crusty ass republicans Santa Claus.

 

[Ether_Snake]

Nice plan to make sure US companies stay behind the curve, comrade Trump.

 

[Dai101]

How long until Mar-a-Lego is submerged?

Not soon enough.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

Goddamn it FBI, release whatever the fuck it is you have on this orange testicle already, or the planet is fucked.

 

[AaronB]

Let's propose a new law that costs hundreds of billions of dollars and has a minuscule benefit for the environment. No one could be against this unless you hate the environment, want the polar ice caps to melt, and club baby seals in your spare time.

 

[Kai Dracon]

Rich people don't give a shit. Even if it's delusional, they figure they'll always be safe and comfortable inside their class-exclusive pleasantvilles. Which will be kept presentable and clean while everyone else drowns in brown swill and dies early.

And if the little people don't like it, then they should just get rich too and buy the government they prefer. Fair and square!

 

[darkwing]

this was expected

 

[Ac30]

States rights :^)

Ahaha those fucks found the loophole.

 

[Dishwalla]

We should just go back to leaded gas. Down with the catalytic converter!

 

[JoeyJungle]

Man, can't even go one day without reading news that makes me go "Jesus christ, we're all fucked."

 

[plebator.jayus]

Goddamn it FBI, release whatever the fuck it is you have on this orange testicle already, or the planet is fucked.

Cant trump simply fire them if they do that?

honest question, im not an american

 

[dr3upmushroom]

This surely will create a million jobs alone! Think of the poor auto industry!

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Rich people don't give a shit. Even if it's delusional, they figure they'll always be safe and comfortable inside their class-exclusive pleasantvilles. Which will be kept presentable and clean while everyone else drowns in brown swill and dies early.

And if the little people don't like it, then they should just get rich too and buy the government they prefer. Fair and square!

Shit who's gonna stand up to them

They have conservative sheep who will be ready to fight for their right to be comfy and rich. Like, there is literally nothing we can do.