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[ZOONAMI]

We are actually going backwards.

 

[Frankfurter]

I can't believe that car markers want this to actually happen. They can't sell these "Let's pretend global warming isn't a thing"-cars in Europe, Japan, or China..

 

[darkace]

When did more efficient products ever benefit the consumer?

Every time ever? Even in a monpoly situation efficiency makes consumrers brter of.

 

[Sulik2]

Climate change is on a knife edge of going from extremely damaging but human civilization might be able to manage it to a massive climate shift that will destabilize the planets entire ecosystem. Two years of Trump might be all the planet needs to go well over 4c warming and devastate the planets climate. The GOP is now the single most dangerous organization on the planet for the continued existence of global human society. ISIS has nothing on them.

 

[maabus1999]

( Hopeful )Result will be California being sued, and if California wins, then the blue states will then adopt emission controls to counter this (or even adopt it without Cali being sued).

Hell from the conservative view point you can argue it is best for National Security to use less "Middle Eastern" oil on the market to have more efficient vehicles.

 

[FF Seraphim]

The more news I read about Trump the more I feel like we are building a hopeless world for our future generations... This article just made me depressed to think companies care so much more about money than making sure our only place to live is actually livable. Plus we have a man in office who doesn't seem to give a damn...
2018 is going to be a major year, everyone who can vote better go out and help bring this administration down a peg or 10.

 

[br0ken_shad0w]

The coal rollers will be happy

Soon to be legal.

 

[nintendoman58]

This is very depressing, I know, but at the end of the day this is only one piece of the puzzle he's pulling out. Yes, every piece is important and it sucks when he does it, but these pieces can be put back in.

In good news, China's doing a fantastic job on their end.

Also don't forget that there's a March for Scientists going on this Earth Day that's apparently getting a lot of traction.

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

Soon to be legal.

are this car modded on purpose to blow smoke like that?

 

[2MF]

are this car modded on purpose to blow smoke like that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal

Rolling coal is a form of conspicuous air pollution, for entertainment or for protest. Some drivers intentionally trigger coal rolling in the presence of hybrid vehicles (when it is nicknamed "Prius repellent") to taunt their drivers, who are perceived as being environmentally motivated in their vehicle choice. Coal rolling may also be triggered at foreign cars, bicyclists and pedestrians. Practitoners cite "American freedom" and "a stand against rampant environmentalism" as reasons for coal rolling.

 

[Lkr]

Man you guys know the worst extent of obamas big government anti American communism? Making the auto industry product more fuel efficient vehicles. Newer Civics get 30MPG what a fucking travesty

 

[LAMBO]

Growing up in the 90's I never thought there would be another horsepower race. Over the recent years we've had one. Super fast challengers, mustangs, etc. for a pretty reasonable price. It's been great. But now it's on like donkey kong. I can only imagine what will be possible with today's technology and less environmental restrictions. I may own a 1000hp stock car in my lifetime, something that i never thought was possible.

 

[gaugebozo]

are this car modded on purpose to blow smoke like that?

Yes. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...6-G0LM31O2isxj_Bw&sig2=CUNZdn1lh8hv6PLF6sdbqA

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal

Yes. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...6-G0LM31O2isxj_Bw&sig2=CUNZdn1lh8hv6PLF6sdbqA

what the hell is wrong with people

 

[2MF]

what the hell is wrong with people

Here's one plausible theory:

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/07/why-people-are-paying-5000-to-pollute-more.html

Either way, it’s no coincidence that this is a subculture primarily made up of white men living in rural areas. Wade mentions a book called On the Fireline, by sociologist Matt Desmond, who interviewed forest firefighters about their relationship to the countryside and their alienation from the big city. “They routinely mocked ‘city boys’ and their identity was strongly tied to a rejection of those people and that way of life,” Wade said. “It wasn’t just about identity, though, it was also about a sense of marginalization and powerlessness.

“We still call rural parts of America ‘the heartland,’ but in a nostalgic way,” she continued. “They’re the past, not the future. The country boys who end up as forest fire fighters live in the ‘flyover states.’ So do the men rolling coal.” Though not everyone who rolls coal ascribes so much meaning to the action. As Robbie, a 25-year-old mechanic quoted in the Vocativ piece, sees it, “It’s just fun. Just driving and blowing smoke and having a good time.”

Even so, Wade argues that by rolling coal, and subsequently publicizing their actions online, that these men are very possibly attempting to rebuild their sense of self in a culture that’s increasingly moving beyond them. “Cities are now the center of our cultural life, the economic viability of their small towns is plummeting, and the values they represent are now seen as backward,” Wade explained. Rolling coal is a way of resisting all of that.

“That’s why they laugh and make fun of blowing their smoke on Prius drivers, cops, women, tailgaters, city boys, and liberals,” she said. “The social and economic power men like them used to command has waned and, understandably, that isn’t a good feeling. So, now they’re looking for power wherever they can get it.”

 

[nabe_shogun]

are this car modded on purpose to blow smoke like that?

Specifically to do that? Probably not. But its usually a side affect of modifying a diesel engine.

 

[stilgar]

"Thanks, asshole"

- The whole planet

 

[wonderful103]

Growing up in the 90's I never thought there would be another horsepower race. Over the recent years we've had one. Super fast challengers, mustangs, etc. for a pretty reasonable price. It's been great. But now it's on like donkey kong. I can only imagine what will be possible with today's technology and less environmental restrictions. I may own a 1000hp stock car in my lifetime, something that i never thought was possible.

You should look into this thing called the electric car. I hear they can, you know, do that know. Lucid Air, Tesla, they're all heading there. Without debilitating polution.

 

[Condom]

This is just stupidity of the highest order, the fucking assholes. They know they're dead in 15 years so might as well fuck over all future generations!

 

[Whompa02]

why though? Why do you hate humanity?

 

[gaugebozo]

Here's one plausible theory:

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/07/why-people-are-paying-5000-to-pollute-more.html

I don't think this is quite it. The ban against coal rolling in New Jersey started because a State Assemblyman got coal rolled in his hybrid car on the turnpike.

Growing up in the 90's I never thought there would be another horsepower race. Over the recent years we've had one. Super fast challengers, mustangs, etc. for a pretty reasonable price. It's been great. But now it's on like donkey kong. I can only imagine what will be possible with today's technology and less environmental restrictions. I may own a 1000hp stock car in my lifetime, something that i never thought was possible.

You know what the fastest street cars are now? Electric. The Tesla Model S goes 0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds. It's a seven seat sedan. http://www.livescience.com/55887-why-tesla-model-s-is-so-fast.html

 

[Mohonky]

So....how does this work? They wont be able to export those models without using a different engine?

Is is this one of those anti-globalist we dont nees the rest of the world things? They are just going to end up with inventory they cant export.

 

[Man God]

companies will not make cars just for california or the redstates. cars are manufactured for the world wide market and immission laws are getting strict everywhere

Companies will in fact make cars just for California, one of the largest economies in the world.

 

[2MF]

I don't think this is quite it. The ban against coal rolling in New Jersey started because a State Assemblyman got coal rolled in his hybrid car on the turnpike.

I meant it's a theory to explain why people do it, not why it got banned.

 

[gaugebozo]

I meant it's a theory to explain why people do it, not why it got banned.

That's what I'm saying. Someone was coal rolling on the NJ Turnpike. Not exactly fly-over country.

 

[BlazinSkatinAxel]

companies will not make cars just for california or the redstates. cars are manufactured for the world wide market and immission laws are getting strict everywhere

Some cars are specially made for Cali's smog standards.

 

[Dishwalla]

Growing up in the 90's I never thought there would be another horsepower race. Over the recent years we've had one. Super fast challengers, mustangs, etc. for a pretty reasonable price. It's been great. But now it's on like donkey kong. I can only imagine what will be possible with today's technology and less environmental restrictions. I may own a 1000hp stock car in my lifetime, something that i never thought was possible.

This is true, but these cars are also relatively fuel efficient, though they could be better. My 2014 Mustang GT gets pretty good mileage, and of course the Ecoboost Mustangs are available and seem to be popular, sure see a lot of them. Also Ford announced an electric version of the Mustang for 2020. There's ample opportunity to offer cars that put out high horsepower and are still efficient.

 

[Boney]

That's what I'm saying. Someone was coal rolling on the NJ Turnpike. Not exactly fly-over country.

The practice will permeate to other environments. And it's not like NJ isnt a marginalized place.

But empowerment is what many qualitative studies on rural southern states arrive to. They assert their identity as an opposition to liberal values.

It's a crap situation for everybody involved

 

[LAMBO]

You should look into this thing called the electric car. I hear they can, you know, do that know. Lucid Air, Tesla, they're all heading there. Without debilitating polution.

Yes electric great. But the lucid is 165K right? Tesla cars are over engineered for my taste. Too many little cute features that will inevitability break and cost tons to fix. Make a bear bones tesla at a good price with incredible performance and i'll take a look. The demon challenger is going to be 800hp at $80K with environmental restrictions. Imagine what we'll be seeing next.

 

[Pomerlaw]

IBut to suggest that Earth was never supposed to be sustainable for us is juvenile self absorption wrapped in the hypocrisy of calling the other poster a pessimist.

Earth never was sustainable for a decent human life and our society without us changing the raw nature of its materials.

Nature killed us in waves, made us starve, die by disease and hunger. A large chunk of our kids were still dying before the age of 5 a century ago. For a long period of time we faced only the struggle of survival.

The only thing that made the Earth sustain a decent, secure way of life for us and our children is our science and knowledge.

 

[LAMBO]

This is true, but these cars are also relatively fuel efficient, though they could be better. My 2014 Mustang GT gets pretty good mileage, and of course the Ecoboost Mustangs are available and seem to be popular, sure see a lot of them. Also Ford announced an electric version of the Mustang for 2020. There's ample opportunity to offer cars that put out high horsepower and are still efficient.

Love the '14 mustang, congrats. I think they are going too far with the newer models.

I think elec is the future. I think some lambos have a seperate elec motor to aid performance. The problem with high performance elec cars today is that they aren't aimed at performance, they are luxury, feature cars. You read about a tesla and it's all about self driving and door handles and big screens. Who cares, it's a car.

 

[Boney]

Earth never was sustainable for a decent human life and our society without us changing the raw nature of its materials.

Nature killed us in waves, made us starve, die by disease and hunger. A large chunk of our kids were still dying before the age of 5 a century ago. For a long period of time we faced only the struggle of survival.

The only thing that made the Earth sustain a decent, secure way of life for us and our children is our science and knowledge.

Our science and knowledge has brought us to the brink of disaster. Rationalization has been a complete departure from enlightenment, where the beaurocratization and rationalization of the means to an end are our values.

And your assessment that human life has been on the brink of extinction for thousands of year before the advent of modern science is also counter factual to all human records. Mankind's best trait has been the ability to adapt, being able to sustainably live from the artic to deserts. We're resourceful and have established an economic life through the environment.

I certainly think there's been landmark discoveries in science like penicillin for example, which have certainly have had significant positive impact on our health, but trying to put rationalization and progress as if they are one in the same is falling prey to the same type of thinking of dogmatic ideologues do with religion.

If today we can withstand natural disasters that used To kill us in wave, that has been replaced by the continued genocide of civilians thanks to our war economy.

 

[i-Lo]

America is winning bigly at one thing since Trump became President: Darwin Award(s).