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TV Shows that people went crazy over, but in retrospect were kinda dumb or bad

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Sherlock (BBC) - while I am not really as furious over this show as some other people, I feel like people just got kinda taken in by the exciting and intriguing "modern day Sherlock" premise. The mysteries got increasingly dumb and lazy. While the lead actors were always putting in a good performance, the material they had to work with was often subpar. Stories were often unnecessarily bloated to hit the 90 minute episode benchmark set by the first episodes. You never felt like you were getting a series of 3 Sherlock movies, but more like you were getting 3 45-60 minute episodes padded out to 90 minutes.

The Sopranos (Seasons 4-6) - a pretty classic example of a show resting on its laurels, and allowing the momentum of early seasons to carry it to a grinding conclusion. I'm not one of the people that whines about how later seasons were boring because they weren't full of mob hits and high body counts. But at the same time, the deeper dives into family drama were pretty tedious. I can only watch so many screaming matches between Tony and Carmella (or Tony and his numerous mistresses) before I'm just exhausted from watching the same thing over and over.

24 - one of the first truly serialized primetime network television shows, and I think the thrill of a having an expansive week-to-week story drew people in and made them ignore rather glaring problems and absurd scenarios. Part of the problem was that writers felt obligated to cover everyone in the ensemble cast and give them their own stories, even if those stories were stupid or inconsequential.

Dexter - while later seasons of the show are considered pretty universally bad, I'm not sure even the early seasons really hold up. A lot of Dexter's broody Linkin Park sociopath routine is corny, and not tounge-in-cheek enough. The show has roughly 1-2 characters that are actually compelling, but showrunners felt it necessary to focus B-plots on an expanding cast of characters that weren't really that likable or entertaining. This issue is kind of an echo of the problems that Sopranos and 24 faced......trying to juggle 8-10 characters when the audience really only wants to see a few of them. The books had the good sense to kill off LaGuerta in the first season, but the show decides to keep this wet blanket around for years and years.

True Blood - this show was fun trash. It was very fun, but still kinda trash. With its similar penchant for bloodshed and T&A, I can't help but wonder if Game of Thrones will occupy the same space in our memory 5-10 years down the line. It doesn't have the same soap opera tendencies as True Blood did, so perhaps it will fare better in retrospect.
 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Heroes. The show got terrible post-season one, but in retrospect even season one was super dicey, and a lot of its appeal was because it was the "good Lost" at a time when Lost was floundering.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Heroes. The show got terrible post-season one, but in retrospect even season one was super dicey, and a lot of its appeal was because it was the "good Lost" at a time when Lost was floundering.

Cosigned. We were all just so thirsty for superhero tv shows.
 
People saw Dexter as being bad when it was airing. It's the Bleach of live-action television. Good premise, good early material, took a nosedive in quality.
 

nynt9

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Breaking Bad. That plane plotline is one of the worst things on TV, Skylar is misogynistically written, and the show doesn't know if it wants to be serious premium TV or camp garbage and keeps going back and forth to its own detriment. Axe wielding twin latino gangsters? Magnets? Really?
 

gun_haver

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how do you lump sopranos in with that other garbage

ur taste sux

Yeah, I don't agree with Sopranos being in this mix. Sopranos had a few shaky episodes here and there but I think it was on the whole a very good show and, I know people will disagree, but I think it got better as it went along and became more meditative and ponderous. The early seasons, 1 mostly, can be a little goofy and 90's cheesey at times.

This topic is essentially just 'what shows are acclaimed but you think suck' though, so you're gonna get a lot of answers like sopranos, breaking bad, game of thrones, maybe the wire, etc, and then the mainstream ones which actually do kind of suck like Lost.
 

Syntsui

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Big Bang Theory got old pretty fast and apparently it's still popular, God knows why.

Lost became unbearable around the time they introduced and almost immediately killed Rodrigo Santoro's character but people still praised it until the meme bait ending.
 
Heroes. The show got terrible post-season one, but in retrospect even season one was super dicey, and a lot of its appeal was because it was the "good Lost" at a time when Lost was floundering.

Remember how Peter forgot to go back and get his Irish girlfriend when he left her in that horrible nightmare future?

Caitlin_Panic.jpg


And then probably killed her by altering the future?
 

Monocle

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Breaking Bad
Breaking Bad. That plane plotline is one of the worst things on TV, Skylar is misogynistically written, and the show doesn't know if it wants to be serious premium TV or camp garbage and keeps going back and forth to its own detriment. Axe wielding twin latino gangsters? Magnets? Really?
I probably should have expected this revisionist garbage before I clicked.
 

Almighty

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The two I can think of were Heroes and Lost. At least among the people I know. I might put Dexter on that list as well. The only reason i don't is because i can remember if the first few seasons were actually good or just look that way now knowing what came after.
 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Remember how Peter forgot to go back and get his Irish girlfriend when he left her in that horrible nightmare future?

Caitlin_Panic.jpg


And then probably killed by altering the future?

This was honestly one of the weirdest things I've ever seen on TV and could've been mentioned in that bad TV scene thread.
 

Morrigan Stark

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You are right about 24 and Dexter. They had glaring issues, even the early seasons, but I still enjoyed those because they were at least entertaining and had some pretty epic moments that redeemed them. I never did watch Dexter S8 though, because S6 and 7 were so very, very bad. I eventually read up spoilers on Wikipedia and boy am I glad I skipped it. xD

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Time for some ~controversial~ opinions! (They are totally sincere though, sorry fanbois/girls)


Six Feet Under was boring. It was nothing more than a trite soap opera, just with better acting/writing/production values.

Lost was trash since S2.

Heroes was trash since the very first episode. Can't believe my boyfriend tried to get me to watch this show, as soon as I heard the "we only use 10% of our brain" I knew this show was gonna be unredeemable garbage. Whoever wrote that show probably did only use 10% of their brain!

The Walking Dead's first episode was really good, then it went downhill and never recovered. I did stop watching some time early into... S4, I think? I hear it "got better" but I don't care anymore, fuck this show, wasted so many hours of my life on it. Never again.

Battlestar Galactica was always terrible. I watched the prequel (or mini-series thingy) which was OK, IIRC, and then I watched S1, and boy was it bad. Gaius Baltar is the most annoying character on screen since Jar-Jar Binks. I cringed at every single one of his stupid fucking scenes with that "invisible" woman, to the point that it became unwatchable. The rest of the cast also sucked. Even Starbucks wasn't as likeable or interesting as she should have been. I then read episode summaries of later seasons and I am so, so glad I dropped this piece of shit show early on.

Oh, and possibly the most controversial one? True Detective is insufferably boring. I think I watched 2-3 episodes, maybe less, before giving up. Absolutely coma-inducing and unappealing. I legitimately cannot understand the appeal or widespread acclaim of that show.

Breaking Bad, on the other hand, is amazing and some of the best TV ever produced and does not belong in this thread. ^_^
 

Azzanadra

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I'm going to say the second half of Game of Thrones, somewhere along S4 the show decided good writing was for chumps and opted instead to be a hollow spectacle.
 

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True Blood never once pretended to be anything other than trash. It knew what it was.

To their credit, the show never took itself as seriously as programs like Dexter or 24. They also did a far, far better job of handling a massive cast and tons of concurrent plots. While some characters definitely had dull arcs, it wasn't a situation were you groaned and sighed every time they cut away from the A-plotline. And oftentimes you were looking forward to seeing the sideplots progress more than the main Sookie story.
 

Shaanyboi

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Heroes. The show got terrible post-season one, but in retrospect even season one was super dicey, and a lot of its appeal was because it was the "good Lost" at a time when Lost was floundering.

Heavily serialized, dramatic sci-fi was also still novel on major network TV like this. "Superheroes" obviously fits nicely into that mold. Any shakiness in Season 1 at the time could be overlooked in service of the fun of the grander mystery, but also the promise of where things could go. Things fell apart when Season 2 not only take it's sweet damn time to go anywhere (even before the writer's strike), it also continued to really reject the notion that this show was going to where you wanted it to.

Then Season 3 is a fucking trashfire, and Season 4, while certainly a step up, just ignores all pretense and just straight up rips off X-Men.
 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
LOST



They had no plan past s2

This is a misconception. The show had no (or little) plan initially, but everything after season three was planned once they negotiated an ending to the show.

The weird part is that those seasons feel more made up on the fly than the first three.
 

Boke1879

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A littttttle hard to take these posts seriously.....

Yup.

I have a feeling a lot of people in this thread are going to take their personal dislike of a show and apply it here.

Breaking Bad, GoT and hell even TWD will still be seen as fun and entertaining.
 

axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Under The Dome was really popular for a while, then they tried to artificially overextend it, and S3 became some weird Matrix parody....
 

theWB27

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This is revisionist... but walking dead. Once i came to the conclusion that i knew this show would never wrap it up...i dropped it. Made me realize there was no real drama.
 

LionPride

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House of Cards was never a great show. It's always been a trashy soap opera that thinks it's a prestige political drama

Not entirely false

I think the first season was actually good

The rest have been entertaining

Also the answer to this question is Friends

I have seen every episode of that show and it's not that funny
 

Mimosa97

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Dexter was good until the last season.

Lost was a very enjoyable show even though it made no sense. I still loved the ride. No regrets.

Breaking bad is just great TV. People will shit on anything.

Y'all need a reality check.
 
Six Feet Under was boring. It was nothing more than a trite soap opera, just with better acting/writing/production values.

Nahhh I only watched this last year and it was excellent. Top 10 of all time drama's for me probably.

Dexter and True Blood both had good first seasons, then dropped off badly.

I actually think House of Cards will be in this category.

Lost was always a bit wank.

Everyone knows Walking Dead is tripe.
 
Heroes. The show got terrible post-season one, but in retrospect even season one was super dicey, and a lot of its appeal was because it was the "good Lost" at a time when Lost was floundering.

We bought in because it was a cool idea that hadn't been done on TV at all before.

We just didn't realize at the time that the idea would be wasted and it was all crap in hindsight.
 
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