Showtime said the viewers have been increasing every week since episode 5 (which makes sense as episodes 1-4 were all dropped at once).
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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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Buttonbasher
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Whenever I see posts where people think Cooper genuinely won't come back this series, I think about dogs that assume their owner has abandoned them each time they go to work. The story is clearly setting up his return. It's in the title of the show. It's the story they're telling, and are clearly building toward it (slowly, but surely). The thought that people seriously think he's just gonna be this way, without resolution just baffles me.
This isn't in regards to one particular user or anything (no shade intended Ashby), I just see that kind of post all the time and am kind of surprised.
This isn't in regards to one particular user or anything (no shade intended Ashby), I just see that kind of post all the time and am kind of surprised.
...Twin Peaks?
Because that's the only title chosen by the dudes who wrote this story. While I'm sure this isn't going to be Everybody Loves Dougie, I don't know if I would bet that the Cooper we're going to get will be the same old eccentric Boy Scout people think of when they talk about Cooper coming back.
The Elite
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The Return
Buttonbasher
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Yeah I don't think it's just an immediate switch that's going to flip, and he'll obviously be pretty different after what he's experienced, but I think there'll be enough of that character there to make everyone happy.
My sympathies for David Lynch's dog.
Kadayi
Banned
^So much this.
25 years stuck in a perpetual purgatory and then suddenly you're pulled out and thrust into a reality you barely remember, you're going to be all sorts of messed up for quite some time.
Sure I get it, that it's frustrating for some, but I think once Cooper is reunited with Gordon.
Which is going to happen pretty soon once those finger prints of his are run, then a dare say he'll be on the road to recovery, though I suspect the realisation as to what befell you is probably going to be hard to take.
I was honestly expecting before the show started for Cooper to just be trapped in the Black Lodge for like half the season, so I was surprised when he came out in Part 3. I'd gladly take the Dougie stuff over what I thought.
My original prediction for the Cooper return was Part 9, but I'm saying Part 12 now. Part 10 is too soon for all the Cooper threads from last episode to come together imo, Part 11 is being shown Friday at Comic Con and there's no way they'd show the actual "Return" episode early, so Part 12 seems good. A Cooper meeting with the FBI at the very least.
My original prediction for the Cooper return was Part 9, but I'm saying Part 12 now. Part 10 is too soon for all the Cooper threads from last episode to come together imo, Part 11 is being shown Friday at Comic Con and there's no way they'd show the actual "Return" episode early, so Part 12 seems good. A Cooper meeting with the FBI at the very least.
wanderingprostheyltite
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If so news to me. I recall reading about how many takes he had Richard Beymer do for the baguette eating scene to the point Beymer pulled the "what do you want from me?" card out of frustration. Guess that's not the norm though.
Now that I think on it I remember Nevins saying how efficient Lynch was in staying on shooting schedule while principal was going on, well no wonder if it was an average of 1-2 takes per scene lol. I dunno as you mention what with things like editing tricks occurring multiple times it's hard for me to believe there wasn't an element of "go go go" going on at times during the production, especially with some of the location shoots. However, if it's all intentional and that's just his style so be it ¯\_(ツ
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I remember there was an early screening of the first few episodes, and one of the impressions that made it onto Twitter was something like "Twin Peaks fans are going to be SO mad". It made me genuinely expect Cooper to get killed off in the second episode, so the fact that he's around - even as Dougie - is a step up from my original expectations.
wanderingprostheyltite
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I may be thinking of the same one you saw, someone claimed it was a friend that went to the premiere that shared their impressions, said it didn't spend hardly any time on the original cast except Cooper and very little time in the town, and that it was "unwatchable" lol. Took it with a grain of salt ofc, the little time spent on original characters could've been guessed based on Kyle saying it wasn't a nostalgia trip, and the general focus on him getting back to the town.
Oh wait, I think I know the one you meant, was a journo (can't remember specific site) that broke the press embargo, and actually revealed a bit too much as far as who showed up in the first two parts, iirc they edited it down after backlash on twitter but kept the general impressions up. They did say they enjoyed it overall from what I recall.
Oh wait, I think I know the one you meant, was a journo (can't remember specific site) that broke the press embargo, and actually revealed a bit too much as far as who showed up in the first two parts, iirc they edited it down after backlash on twitter but kept the general impressions up. They did say they enjoyed it overall from what I recall.
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wanderingprostheyltite
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Yeah that's the same guy I was thinking of.
Here's the article in question
I remember these cryptic teases hyped us up quite a bit:
Here's the article in question
I remember these cryptic teases hyped us up quite a bit:
Kanhir
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I'll point out that Tamara Preston was already well established in the Secret History book, and her personality in that doesn't gel with what we're seeing on screen. Maybe she was replaced by her Vapid Lodge doppelganger in the meantime.
Frank West
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Dougie >>>>>>>>>>>> Bad Cooper
Dougie is pretty much the new version of the old Cooper in 1989-1991. I'm still hoping for old Coop to come back though.
I like bad Coop but Dougie is just something else. "Let's rock" is the episode where old Coop returns....I'm pretty sure......
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I'm sure Frost and Lynch could write Cooper with ease if you held them up at gunpoint, but I doubt it would have the spark it did 25 years ago. They're probably just not interested in writing about that character again. 25 years is a lot of artistic development.
Cooper deconstructed. A man who enjoys the little things, wants the best for everyone and is guided by mysterious supernatural forces to solve crimes.
31GhostsIV
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I'm hungover, so taking this opportunity to re-watch the series so far.
I completely forgot about Lucy's first scene, where an insurance man appears asking for Truman. Initially I assumed it was just a way to explain Harry's absence and Frank's existence, but now I'm wondering if the man works for Lucky 7?
I completely forgot about Lucy's first scene, where an insurance man appears asking for Truman. Initially I assumed it was just a way to explain Harry's absence and Frank's existence, but now I'm wondering if the man works for Lucky 7?
Moff
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I think it's more important to ask if he even can be the same cooper? after 25 years basically in prison and then rebooted in dougie. I think he will be quite different and fans will be disappointed. Doppelgänger Cooper is fantastic, though, great character and McLachlan is doing a fantastic job.
31GhostsIV
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The Hawk/Glastonberry Grove scene in episode one is definitely at a different time. There's no reason for him to be there yet "something is supposed to be happening here tonight".
I think we'll get the same scene again when the Sheriff Dept follows the Briggs clue. I wonder where Bobby and Frank are though?
I think we'll get the same scene again when the Sheriff Dept follows the Briggs clue. I wonder where Bobby and Frank are though?
He's coming back. Coop is going through a birth and development process, judging by his pencil grip he's currently about 4 years old and growing up fast.
Net_Wrecker
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How could anyone watch the more traditional Twin Peaks scenes this season, particularly those with returning characters, and think Frost/Lynch no longer know how to write for Cooper? Albert alone was on fire last episode with one liners that could've been from directly from the first 2 seasons, not to mention the Briggs family stuff, bobby opening the capsule, Frank Truman fitting into the show like a glove, Lucy's lunch break gag, etc. These guys know what Twin Peaks was, and could absolutely do the nostalgia run if they wanted to. Instead, they've chosen to reignite the flame of mystery in a post-"we know who Laura Palmer's killer is" world with Mr. C, while simultaneously seating the audience alongside Cooper through his journey back, step by step, piece by piece.
And if we do get Coop's awakening with episodes to spare, I expect him to be a character now carrying the scars of whatever he's gone through.
And if we do get Coop's awakening with episodes to spare, I expect him to be a character now carrying the scars of whatever he's gone through.
I'm interested in the behavior change from DoppleCoop between the S2 finale and this season. I'm kinda hoping that we'll eventually see Mr C lose the kingpin, greasy badass facade and go back to maniacally laughing it up like Bob at least once this season, preferably during some pivotal moment.
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Lillard was great. He fits perfectly in this Lynchian universe.
Just for people to talk about Bell's performance again after two days of nice and gentle discussion.
Actually, The Return was decided by Showtime and not by Lynch and Frost, so it's purely just a marketing choice.
For them, this is not season 3, nor The Return, just simply "Twin Peaks".
Just for people to talk about Bell's performance again after two days of nice and gentle discussion.
Actually, The Return was decided by Showtime and not by Lynch and Frost, so it's purely just a marketing choice.
For them, this is not season 3, nor The Return, just simply "Twin Peaks".
31GhostsIV
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Has Preston ever been called 'Tamara' on the show?
The book character was called Tamara, but this Preston's name plate on her desk says 'Tammy', surely the FBI wouldn't be so informal? I've only ever noticed her being called Tammy by other characters. Credits call her Tammy too.
Obviously Tammy is short for Tamara but I still need to ask: two Prestons?
The book character was called Tamara, but this Preston's name plate on her desk says 'Tammy', surely the FBI wouldn't be so informal? I've only ever noticed her being called Tammy by other characters. Credits call her Tammy too.
Obviously Tammy is short for Tamara but I still need to ask: two Prestons?
He really wasn't though? Lillard was phenomenal in the last episode.
Don Draper's Hat
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He was a little over the top. But then most of the acting this series has been that way. It wasn't terrible or anything, but it was a far cry from phenomenal.
It was way funnier than it had any right to be. It took forever and was super lame and was extraordinarily funny.
plagiarize
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But that's how he's being directed.
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/07/twin-peaks-matthew-lillard-interview
Lillard said:
And that's what a lot of people love about the acting in Twin Peaks.
31GhostsIV
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You know the Commercials I hate forum that had the 'this is the water' quote ahead of time (and something last week as well?),
Well, it has a new quote:
Well, it has a new quote:
"Hello Johnny. How are you today?"
Yeah it had the text about everyone being at table. Hmmm....perhaps
Johnny
plagiarize
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Weekend after next I'm going to be at the Sheriff's office. I'll also be probably killing myself with ridiculously hot hot wings at the RR later on that same day.
I'll also give Chrysta Bell a high five from all you guys and tell her that everyone on NeoGAF thinks she is the best. Oh, and I'll be telling James that each and everyone on NeoGAF knows that he is cool.
Because he is.
I'll also give Chrysta Bell a high five from all you guys and tell her that everyone on NeoGAF thinks she is the best. Oh, and I'll be telling James that each and everyone on NeoGAF knows that he is cool.
Because he is.
Brian_FETO
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Don Draper's Hat
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Right. Doesn't mean it's phenomenal though.
I thought he was great but that alien Chrysta Bell felt out of place in the scene.
31GhostsIV
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At the end of my hangover-induced re-watch half-way marathon. I love this season the more I watch it.
Note of probably misguided hope: the last time we saw DougieCoop he was staring at a power socket. He wants his shoes back.
Note of probably misguided hope: the last time we saw DougieCoop he was staring at a power socket. He wants his shoes back.
Dick Jones
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I was fine until you said James is cool. That lad couldn't be cool if he was frozen in ice.
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SuperStiltzkin
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Yeah, I found the three detectives more awkward than Chrsysta Bell. David Koechner looked so uncomfortable to me being part of this weird three stooges troupe doing weird humor.
KOMANI
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I have to essentially agree with you.
The posing during the smoke scene felt forced.
When I was introduced to lynch's works, I found the acting to be bad (not in all cases). But the bad acting was used to tell a bigger story, so I excused it and found it endearing.
Now, I'm not turned off by her acting so much that I can't enjoy the show, but she ruined the interrogation scene for me, and that was a major scene. If I wanted to play conspiracy theorist, I'd think that the reason the scene was short was to hide the acting flaws of the actress. And it's a shame because we got some elaboration to the mythos of twin peaks in that scene. The interrogation scene needed more time in the oven, so to speak. But hey, I'm just a schmuck.
Edit: in case anyone quotes me and wants to debate my "bad acting" sentence, I'm not saying lynch= bad acting. There are so many wonderful actors in lynch's movies and shows. Kyle Maclachlan and Naomi Watts are doing a bang up job. And I don't want to exclude Tim Roth and Jennifer Leigh. Their addition are much welcomed.
plagiarize
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We can debate if James Hurley is cool or not.
But James Marshall is cool. I've met him before. Super cool guy.
It was literally the first scene she shot, for what it's worth.
At least according to that Matt Lillard interview I posted above.
SuperStiltzkin
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I thought Tammy was supposed to look awkward during that smoking scene. "I'm standing next to a grumpy ass woman who hates me and I don't know what to do with my hands, I better just try not to lose my composure and not show signs of weakness in front of Diane."
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