uncelestial
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I do think it's a bit sloppy. I haven't ever heard of a director doing an 18 hour long feature before though. I mean, damn. At any rate, I'm not 100% convinced on any of this "out of sequence" talk. We'll see.
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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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cablenathan
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I love that Lynch and Frost have been afforded creative control over this, especially to a degree that is not often seen any more. I get that it appears sloppy and meandering, that these things were their choice / in their control make it much more palatable for me. It isn't perfect, and it has dragged a little, but in I'm along for this ride wherever it takes me. In Lynch/Frost I trust.
Discotheque
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The Straight Story is even better and cements that idea
See this is my thing thoughThe Elephant Man is pretty surreal! There are so many deeply abstracted and disorienting images, shimmering lights and magical dissolves and harrowing blacks; Splet and Lynch's sound design there is as terrifying as Eraserhead's. Plus the story isn't conventionally structured, it's very loose.
I'm still missing Lost Highway, The Straight Story and Inland Empire. But so far the films I had heard weren't "as Lynchian" absolutely have been. Dune includedDune's thematic obsessions are thoroughly Lynchian. Harkonnen's perverted masculinity, an obsession with the subconscious, the banal horrors of industrialization.
There are a couple films that length, Christian Marclay's The Clock and Douglas Gordon's 24 Hour Psycho jump to mind. However those and every other example are meant for gallery installations and are non-narrative. So if you consider this an 18 hour film it's notable...but then there's the fact that it's not, and it's a television show no matter what Lynch or anybody says.
Net_Wrecker
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Even The Straight Story, his most "normal" movie, is very Lynchian. The surreal volume knob fluctuates from project to project, but Lynch's core vision is always there like BOB at the foot of your bed.
And since we're mentioning The Straight Story so much in the last few pages, I'll take this opportunity again to tell everyone that hasn't seen it to WATCH THE STRAIGHT STORY. It's an incredible, beautiful, near perfect movie, and I don't say that combination of words very often. Top tier Lynch, and insanely forgotten/overlooked.
I only saw The Straight Story once and I pretty much hated it. If I saw it again I might change my opinion, it's been quite a long time, but the memory I have of it is Lynch at his most conservative and blatantly fetishing mid-century white America to the exclusion of all else. Didn't feel heart-warming to me, felt kind of ugly. I'll probably not give it another look, my interest in doing that is pretty much zero, but I'm willing to hear that I'm wrong from somebody who knows where I'm coming from and I'm just misremembering it somehow.
Will watch The Straight Story soon. The idea of Lynch doing a Disney film still sounds funny.
I mean sure, it's still Lynch. But Elephant Man is still much more easy to follow than of his works. There are moments of surrealism and his signature style, but it's not really a tought movie to follow or anything like that.
I mean sure, it's still Lynch. But Elephant Man is still much more easy to follow than of his works. There are moments of surrealism and his signature style, but it's not really a tought movie to follow or anything like that.
I mean--define hard to follow. Eraserhead is certainly not an A-B-C story but it's not forbiddingly difficult. It was a midnight circuit hit after all. Mulholland Dr you exit not being able to explain what was dream and what was real, but you can sure as hell figure out what the movie is about, what it makes you feel.
being hard to follow isn't what defines Lynch's oeuvre. The warped masculinity, the exaggeration of the damsel/femme fatale dichotomy, the power of the subconscious, and blending the ordinary with awful violence are.
I absolutely don't want to know any spoilers, but where are you reading these? I thought even the cast doesn't really know what's coming (unless they were specifically in a scene still to come)? It sounded like at the Comic Con panel that most of them were still in the dark as far as plot goes.
I didn't say 'hard to follow' defines Lynch, but surely you can see how much more abstract something like Eraserhead or Lost Highway is than Elephant Man right? His trademarks are there sure, but it's not the kind of movie where most audiences are going to be looking up a film analysis once the credits roll. For Lynch, I do in fact think it's a far more 'traditional' narrative and presentation.
btw Eraserhead in of itself is honestly a pretty clear story to me, it's a film about a man that's not ready for marriage or parenthood.
Master_Funk
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Episode 14 was mistakenly shown in Germany , instead of episode 13. So the whole plot of the episode is known. I am happy that I,ve avoided all the spoiler, but I am super excited based on the reaction to the spoilers.
Necron
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True, this I believe is what it is all about.
I am very, yrev excited for the next episodes.
31GhostsIV
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Last week, Sky Germany accidentally uploaded Part 14 for streaming instead of 13. A synopsis of events leaked out afterwards - a list was put here but the poster pulled it down.
If you've stayed spoiler-free, I'd keep it that way now. It looks like it will be a great episode...
ElectricBlanketFire
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BlueTsunami
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How I feel when this season goes full weird
VistraNorrez
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It just occurred to me, and I'm sure it's been said before, but what if this season ends with Cooper asking "How's Annie"?
He's going to want to know right?
He's going to want to know right?
I'd actually be alright with that.
Vyse The Legend
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Spiritual_Chaos
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I just watched it, pretty wonderful stuff. The final scene was one of the best endings I think I've seen in a movie in recent memory. You're right about the riding mower nearly veering off-road, the way it was edited it felt like something out of Lost Highway. hah
Now all I have left to see of Lynch's filmography is Inland Empire.
mariachi507
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Awesome! That ending really choked me up. I know there are a ton of movies that aim to hit the audience right in the feels, but one thing about Lynch's are that his heartfelt moments are truly earned. It's a beautiful movie.
I've yet to take the Lost Highway and Inland Empire plunge.
What makes you think that? He is too cool to be the real James?
No.
James has always been too cool to have a doppelganger. Except for that time he went on the road & met Evelyn.
Is there any significance to the white powder on Anthony's jacket when Dougie starts touching/massaging him and then Anthony decides not to poison him? Or is it just Dougie getting distracted by something?
I wonder if Kyle actually ran into the glass door with his head? It certainly seemed very real.
I wonder if Kyle actually ran into the glass door with his head? It certainly seemed very real.
the best explanation I've heard is that the dandruff looks like the particles when he's floating through 'space' in Part 2.
I think it's largely to remind us that one of the defining qualities of OG Coop was an almost beatific openness and entrancement with the world around him (think about his reaction to Douglas firs). Dougie is mesmerized by new images and sensations, like seeing dandruff, in the same way Coop always was. Dougie is in some ways Coop in his his purest, most undistilled form.
mariachi507
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I haven't seen Audrey's but Big Ed's reflection at the end is off as well. It creeped me out when I noticed it.
It's a technique.
You use your foot to first hit the door then have your forehead connect.
Sound effects do the rest.
Just finished Part 13 after being behind for a few weeks due to vacation. Thought it was a nice bounceback after a relatively weak 12th episode.
Dougie's scenes were great and I found the play set moment beautiful. The spotlight did have me scared for whatever reason. Seeing old Twin Peaks largely stuck in place was both sad and comforting. The sleazy businessman trying to profit off the R&R was more of Lynch telling it exactly how he feels.
I was so afraid during Sarah Palmer's scene. Static isn't good, that + Sarah alone? 😬
Can't wait for part 14.
Dougie's scenes were great and I found the play set moment beautiful. The spotlight did have me scared for whatever reason. Seeing old Twin Peaks largely stuck in place was both sad and comforting. The sleazy businessman trying to profit off the R&R was more of Lynch telling it exactly how he feels.
I was so afraid during Sarah Palmer's scene. Static isn't good, that + Sarah alone? 😬
Can't wait for part 14.
Rien
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I really loved the scene where he goes in to the bar and take a drink with the other old man. The way it was filmed and paced always stays with me as the favourite part of the movie.
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Dougie is the holy fool, protected by forces of light.
Its why he was "Mr Jackpots" while wandering aimlessly around the casino, and why despite his obvious difficulty in communicating, everyone who spends time with him ultimately loves him. Even Anthony, who has ample reason to hate him, can't help himself.
Linda? you mean Diane? Why would Linda appear?
VistraNorrez
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Charlene Yi maybe?
Nope.
"Richard and Linda...two birds with one stone"
One of the lines the Giant said at the very first scene of this season.
She's mentioned in episode 6 to be the wife of some other dude in Carl's trailer park. She's a war veteran in a wheelchair. She hasn't appeared on screen yet but she's apparently important enough for the Giant to mention.
Maybe. I'm not sure what actors have been announced for this season that have still yet to appear.
Yeah it was great. I especially loved that
Harry Dean Stanton played Lyle. Totally wasn't expecting a LYnch regular for that role but it worked great
Corpsepyre
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Lucky fucker watching it for the first time. It's an orgasm.
I love the work of David Lynch.
Episode 10 is the last one for today. 11-13 will be watched tomorrow.
Edit: That floating thing that puked out the straight "stuff" with Bob's head on it in Episode 8, was it the same thing that was inside the glass box?
Intheflorsh
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31GhostsIV
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Drink full and descend.
The horse is the white of the eyes and dark within.
This is the water and this is the well...
Corpsepyre
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The Fronde
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Watching Fire Walk With Me. I always enjoyed it, but the new season has made it retroactively better, I think.
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