SuperStiltzkin
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Yeah, I totally understand those scenes are there to add some flavor and color to the town, but I also can't help but feel like they also operate as seeds for a potential Season 4.
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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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Yeah, I totally understand those scenes are there to add some flavor and color to the town, but I also can't help but feel like they also operate as seeds for a potential Season 4.
Yeah... that sort of makes sense, we'll see. I really wonder if Cooper has really come back though.
Glad someone showed P.T. to David Lynch at some point. Jesus Christ. Also there's definitely something weird going on with that woman's face.
My guess is he (Steven) possibly shot and killed Becky and/or shot that guy that's in the jail cell (Billy?) through the cheek. Still have no idea why that guy is bleeding in jail for who knows how long rather than being in the hospital.
Yeah I kind of figured that's just how the Cooper consciousness is finally meeting back up with the rest of him. Didn't seem like a big mystery...
Also, am I out of my mind or is that motel where Kettle Jefferies is living almost exactly like the motel where Leland was going to meet with Teresa Banks, Laura and Ronnette for the threesome before he skedaddled when he realized Laura was one of the girls?
Seems like I was right about Chantal and Hutch's double header in Vegas including Duncan Todd. Second target has to be Dougie/Cooper at this point. RIP Hutch and Chantal. Y'all are screwed now that Cooper is back. For being white trash hit-men, I found them likable.
Seems fitting if it wasn't going to be cherry pie and coffee to really bring Dougie out of it, it was Gordon Cole's name, and a scene from Sunset Blvd. no less. Isn't that Lynch's favorite movie?
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
One and the same
Knowing how well Lynch and Frost have kept us surprised each episode, I'm going to laugh if Hutch and Chantal's second hit is actually Anthony.
31GhostsIV
Banned
Dog owner was Mark Frost, reprising his role as Cyril Pons the news reporter.
Nice, thnx bro. Atleast he is alive.
I am glad Todd is dead. That mofo thought he was untouchable. But his boss was Philip Kettel Jeffries right? So if the hitmen and woman killed the warden and Todd they wont kill either of the coopers right? Don't make sense. Todd wanted Dougie Jones to be dead. So Dougie aint a Tim Roth target right?
Intheflorsh
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I loved this image, you can really see Lynch's experience as a painter on display in the lighting and composition of the scene.
Fuckin' A. I remembered because of the Chalfont kid jumping around with the little white mask on behind Leland. Made that scene really stand out in my mind.
That was my initial prediction, but I think given that Todd was working for Mr. C and failing continually, first hit is Todd as punishment, and second is Dougie Coop to finish the job. I'm still a little unclear who hired Lorraine originally to kill Dougie and why. Mr. C doesn't seem to make sense even though he's the obvious answer.
zeioIIDX
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I watched season 1 of the series a few years ago. I'm caught up with season 3 and have gone back to watch season 1 again and finally season 2 (I know, I know lol) between the release of each new season 3 episode. I had a good laugh when Bobby and Shelly are told to child proof the electrical outlets (for Leo).
The timing of just happening to be at that episode of season 2 for the first time after watching episode 15 of season 3 was pretty cool. I really, really wanna see "real Coop" come back. Gotta say...season 3 is making so much more sense now that I've rewatched season 1 and gotten to episode 7 of season 2. It has been so long since I saw season 1 that when season 3 started, I couldn't remember some of the characters or various plot lines.
Anyway...electrical outlets. They're a doozy.
The timing of just happening to be at that episode of season 2 for the first time after watching episode 15 of season 3 was pretty cool. I really, really wanna see "real Coop" come back. Gotta say...season 3 is making so much more sense now that I've rewatched season 1 and gotten to episode 7 of season 2. It has been so long since I saw season 1 that when season 3 started, I couldn't remember some of the characters or various plot lines.
Anyway...electrical outlets. They're a doozy.
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
Nope! Todd was working for Mr. C, who calls him to ask if Dougie is dead yet. When Todd informs him that they've failed to do so, Mr. C puts the pressure on. Todd then put Anthony in charge of getting 'rid' of Dougie, which Mr. C seemed to know was going to fail. Or he's just cleaning up as many loose ends as possible as he heads toward whatever his final goal is.
So then I have to lean on cleaning up lose ends. That's the only explanation for Tim Roth and Jennifer Jason Leigh to be working for Mr.C right? That means Dougie is next?
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
Very little chance it could be anyone else but Dougie. Todd had three previous hits on Dougie's life fall through (Sniper at the Rancho Rosa gates, explosive strapped to his car, and Ike the Spike), so Mr. C's more concerned about making sure Coop dies than if anything could end up traced back to him. He obviously had quite a lot of faith in Todd to do use his connections to get the job done, since he had so many chances given to him before Hutch and Chantal were called in.
plagiarize
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They better make it through the next three episodes okay.
I loved this image, you can really see Lynch's experience as a painter on display in the lighting and composition of the scene.
For all the criticisms that is thrown, this is absolutely true.
Corpsepyre
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There's absolutely no way this will wrap up and satisfy everyone. Maybe if it was 24 episodes long, given the current pace.
That said, some great stuff tonight. Any word on who or what that person was at the convenience store that opened the door for doppelcoop?
That said, some great stuff tonight. Any word on who or what that person was at the convenience store that opened the door for doppelcoop?
31GhostsIV
Banned
All of the black and white stuff looks beautiful in the show.
Was just listening to one of the countless Peaks podcasts, and they were discussing the Audrey scene, and they said "she's been to the Road House lots of times".
It made me realise, I can't recall one Road House scene to feature Audrey. Was there ever one?
ScientificPizza
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Yeah, with the note in season 2 with Shelly and Donna, right?
I laugh every time Charlie says he's sleepy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A22zBqh2Lm8
Was she also at the Roadhouse when the Fireman appeared on stage and was warning Coop of Maddie's death?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A22zBqh2Lm8
Was she also at the Roadhouse when the Fireman appeared on stage and was warning Coop of Maddie's death?
This ep was good. Really looking forward to ep 16. I want me some Cooper, I want me some nice jazz and I want Janey-E to think he's absolutely lost it when he's all "I'm Special Agent Dale Cooper"
She'll be all "Honey, no, you're having one of your episodes"
Edit: Wait. If Janey-E is Diane's half-sister, and Coop and Diane were really tight, isn't there a chance Coop himself would know about Dougie and Janey-E? Though I'm still not sure if Diane was telling the truth, could just be a cover for why she'd know about them in the first place
She'll be all "Honey, no, you're having one of your episodes"
Edit: Wait. If Janey-E is Diane's half-sister, and Coop and Diane were really tight, isn't there a chance Coop himself would know about Dougie and Janey-E? Though I'm still not sure if Diane was telling the truth, could just be a cover for why she'd know about them in the first place
Don Draper's Hat
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Norma: "I have no family."
Erm...did we all just collectively imagine Annie?
I want a Randall Headley spin off.
Erm...did we all just collectively imagine Annie?
I want a Randall Headley spin off.
How's Annie?!
Zoe
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Dougie didn't come into existence until after his disappearance.
31GhostsIV
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Yeah you're right. And she was at Miss Twin peaks.
All easily forgotten in the back end of season 2 to be fair...
But Annie exists in this timeline as Hawk mentioned her. Have they just retconned Norma's family? TSHOTP already did this of course.
I was confused by Todd's desk. Either the lower half is mirrored, or he apparently has no legs? But no, Mr C was his boss. That was confirmed a few episodes back, Phil the Kettle was speculation.
Todd then sub-contracted the job to the woman whose name suddenly escapes me, who failed. Then Ike the Spike had to take her out, then failed to take Dougie out and was apprehended by the Fuscos. Then it was on Anthony after trying to hoodwink the Mitchums into doing it didn't work out.
Spieler Eins
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Amazing scene with Mr. C. Others were good too, but fuck James and the waitress clan. I don't care - hopefully the latter is out of the show now.
31GhostsIV
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I think you're hoping for a bit much, considering James and Chekov's Fist have just ended up in the cells opposite Naido, the sick drunk and Chad 2 Badd.
So do we think is Jeffries a prisoner of the Black Lodge, or a willing resident? A lot of that sequence seemed to point to the former, but that he seemed to have some control over both appearing/disappearing to the Doppelganger and ejecting the Doppelganger from the lodge when he's done talking with him makes it seem like he has some influence on what's around him.
31GhostsIV
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I'm really confused about Jeffries. Even more so now he's a coordinate-spewing kettle. I'm not sure there will be any clarity by the end of the season, but there might be enough clues to figure it out.
He didn't send Ray to kill Mr C (if I understood that correctly), but as the Owl Cave Ring was involved the smart money is on the other Phillip plotting.
Also, am I interpreting this right: Jeffries seems to think that the person who visited him was the real Cooper, and not the doppelganger? Or is it that he thought the Cooper he spoke to in FWWM was the doppelganger, and he thinks this is the same person he's talking to now -- i.e. he correctly identifies him as the doppelganger now, but also thought Coop in FWWM was that same person.
Moff
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when he saw cooper in FWWM he said something like "what do you think THAT is", we saw that again in the last episode. certainly didn't look like he thought it was a normal human being.
plagiarize
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I loved that you couldn't tell from that exchange which of the two scenarios you've laid out above are the right one.
I'm also presuming Philip and Mr C have been in communication through the years as well. That still doesn't really tell us if Jeffries is knowingly working with the Doppelganger.
You say that like it's a bad thing.and it looks like Dougie is gone
I do think it's sad that Cooper decided to finally take the steps to wake up right after Janey-E tells him how happy she is with life in that moment.
VistraNorrez
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If only Bowie was in that scene. Oh boy I can't even imagine how spectacular it would have been having Kyle as Mr C and Bowie playing off each other.
Still, the visuals were top notch. Atleast Lynch's idea is if we can't use an old actor let's give the audience something crazy. I'd hang that shot of the kettle on my wall.
But I wonder why Harry Goaz knew about a Philip Jeffries scene. They only get their own parts right? Does that mean Andy will have a scene with Jeffries?
Still, the visuals were top notch. Atleast Lynch's idea is if we can't use an old actor let's give the audience something crazy. I'd hang that shot of the kettle on my wall.
But I wonder why Harry Goaz knew about a Philip Jeffries scene. They only get their own parts right? Does that mean Andy will have a scene with Jeffries?
John Dunbar
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they should have used chet desmond instead of jeffries once bowie died. all that build up was inevitably going to be disappointing.
Another thought: I've always thought of the convenience store as the actual Black Lodge, with the red room/waiting room place that everyone just refers to as the lodge as being some in-between purgatory. But we know the fake Jeffries wants, for some reason, for the Doppelganger and BOB to be returned to the Black Lodge. The Doppelganger definitely doesn't want that, which is why he created Dougie in the first place. Since he entered the convenience store willingly, would that rule out that place as being the Black Lodge?
Electrocution by way of fork in outlet seems like a perfectly Dougie way to die.
Solo said:That was yet another damn good episode. The Jeffries stuff was compelling as fuck, the Logy Lady's send off was both heartwrenching and beautiful, and it looks like Dougie is gone
Electrocution by way of fork in outlet seems like a perfectly Dougie way to die.
miazakiplz
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There's a scene that leaked 2 years ago that would suggest there's just as much chance he's dead. I guess we will see.
They were never the same place. The convenience store seems like some sort of hub to travel to other worlds. In FWWM you see the little man and BOB leave the store and go back to the black lodge through the curtains.
I think it needs to be thought of like this - Mr.C is Cooper as much as Cooper is Cooper in terms of his past and memories etc. Mr.C is like if the bad side of our conscience got control of our body and decided to do all the bad stuff that goes on in our heads. Mr.C is Cooper with his good side not there to stop him from doing wrong.
plagiarize
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I guess the waiting room / lines between the lodges weren't quite what we though.
Does 'Dougie' as we've been calling him really die? It's just a state Coop was in. Dougie already died in Part 3.
BenjaminBirdie
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Did El-P produce the whole thing?
BenjaminBirdie
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People were disappointed by Jug O' Jeffries? That was fucking brilliant.
plagiarize
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Only that some people still were hoping that despite everything we knew, that somehow Bowie had shot something. This was the moment were I think anyone holding out hope finally realized that Bowie hadn't been able to film anything.
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