WhereAreMahDragonz
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The Tile Era has begun.
That's what happens when you store a god.
That's what happens when you store a god.
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Twitch Plays Pokemon: Dig, Dig for Victory!
- Thread starter Orayn
- Start date
If simple tasks require 4-14 hours, I imagine a slightly more complex task taking on the order of a few days.
Shalashaska
Member
There was a holiday in parts of Canada and USA yesterday which likely helped boost the numbers to the 70,000 plus thousand viewers.
Waluigilicious
Member
Isnt that the whole point though? Like I said, most people want the maze to be completed... so what's the difference between the "democracy" option, and the guy just playing and doing it?
They tried to get Eevee out of the pc but released Abby (charmillion) and Jay Leno (Ratta) in the process. Eevee since they has been referred as a demon like entity since then.
I personally don't like the democracy system, at least not until it's basically necessary to win. Route 22 is going to be hell without it; the rest of Victory Road is fine, but we really need it for ledge 2: Electric Boogaloo.
silver.tongue
Member
What's the start9 movement?
I've abandoned the stream a while back and have no idea what that is.
I've abandoned the stream a while back and have no idea what that is.
KojiKnight
Member
This was never decided... a few people speculated it would be easy to remove the step counter (it is, incredibly so) and the streamer said he WOULD intervene in some way if we reached that point.
I think the fact that the streamer tried to test things out, even if they failed ,added to the stream. Real time development based on direct feedback is interesting to see play out.
I also believe that Streamer has probably rigged the polls so that there's more time to get things done. I like the idea of polls being a diversion for trolls and the masses. But people need to get things going before the masses stop caring about the poll.
He can only buy so much time
I also believe that Streamer has probably rigged the polls so that there's more time to get things done. I like the idea of polls being a diversion for trolls and the masses. But people need to get things going before the masses stop caring about the poll.
He can only buy so much time
correct. the twitch chat actually hated the democracy system, so they all spammed start9 as a protest. the game was stuck for like 10 minutes with the start menu popping up closing nonstop with no movement being made at all. the democracy voting system was broken and made movements way too slow
It's strange how it emulates modern democracy.
ZekeThePlumber
Member
If they went democratic, you'd be faced with the problem of nothing but A inputs being selected during battles, assuming he just takes an average of the most popular inputs. Plus with the stream lag, there's no guarantee that the most popular choice is the right choice and when you lock yourself into that system you're doomed to be making the same map navigation error over and over again.
If anything, I'd say the best solution would be something like just out and out dropping 50% of the inputs.
If anything, I'd say the best solution would be something like just out and out dropping 50% of the inputs.
KojiKnight
Member
"I'm not getting my way, so I'm going to screw it up so no one wins!", Yep sounds like democracy.
Waluigilicious
Member
But what's the point? Most people want red to successfully pass the ledge, so lets make him pass the ledge with votes? I don't see how this is much different to a guy playing and asking the convo what he should do next and doing it. That is not "Twitch plays" at all.
The beauty of this was the chaos of people trying to work together and make their inputs count. Who cares if it takes weeks? What's the rush?
Freaky Fred
Banned
As I said earlier, a vote for democracy is actually a vote for anarchy because if democracy wins, there will be chaos as evidenced by the start9 riots
he implemented a voting system that chose movements every 10 seconds. It was too slow so he tried different intervals such a 5 and 2 I believe. In addition, he made it so you could input commands such as 'left2' which would make Red move left twice if voted the most. The chat hated the new system so they all voted 'start9' which made the start menu pop-up/close 9 times in a row. 'start9' won the voting every 2 seconds so no progress or movment was made for like 10 whole minutes. The stream went offline and he removed the voting system. Now it appears he implemented a new system, anarchy/democracy.
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KojiKnight
Member
This, we've accomplished GREAT things with the current system... even if we don't progress a single step more, we'll at least have known we got much further than a lot of people thought we could. Changing the system invalidates ALL of the hard "work" we put into this run previously... what's the point if you're going to throw it all away?
AdventureRacing
Member
Completely agree with this.
Good luck then. :-\
If the chaos of people trying to work together is what matters, we should be playing a new game post-Surge.
silver.tongue
Member
Thi is really a sociological experiment now...
How's the new system?
PS: The blue stream is a lot more fun in my opinion and has already surpassed the red stream btw.
maniac-kun
Member
What is this democracy / arnachy nonsense?
KojiKnight
Member
It's not a new system, it's just a vote to see which system to "stick" with.
Got it. I just re-tuned back in.
Garcia
Member
I don't see any sociological experiment going on, just a bunch of trolls fighting people who wan't to play the game.
Waluigilicious
Member
Exactly. The only thing I can agree with is something like disabling the step counter in safari zone, as the game was obviously not designed for this. Even then maybe that can be decided by votes every 10 hours, to see if people want that interference or not. The admin can say the helix fossil listened to the people and removed the step counter (lol) so we feel some sort of satisfaction and still finish the game using the original input method.
Platinum lawsuit incoming
KojiKnight
Member
A lot more boring to watch... 1/100th as many people and less than 1 command a second. Why even bother IMO.
I dont like that the streamer is having to intervene now. Just let them go. They can get past this tile room, its just going to take a while.
Agree, any copycat stream that isnt a game other than pokemon is dead to me. This is the one true stream.
Agree, any copycat stream that isnt a game other than pokemon is dead to me. This is the one true stream.
KittenMaster
Member
I somehow suspect he wanted to do this anyway.
silver.tongue
Member
No. The systems changing to try and adapt to the trolls and number of people is an experiment.
KojiKnight
Member
Then he should have done it from the beginning. I've been here since day 1 and the changes being made are just frustrating.
(edit) Seriously for all the fan I've had over the last few days, these changes and potential changes to the control stream are just ruining it all. I'm going to take a break, see how things play out in a few hours.
maniac-kun
Member
Its not like he expected that the thing would become that big.
silver.tongue
Member
I don't know... I guess I just like the feeling of getting something done.
Despite some problems that still happens in the blue stream.
The red stream has reached a point where they won't be able to proceed without changes.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I've heard people complain about the blue stream because a only select few have true control over progress and dissident voices get banned at the drop of a hat.
Kind of ironic if you consider what red and blue are traditionally associated with in U.S. politics.
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Deleted member 231381
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Anarchy needs to win. Democracy ruins the point of this experiment.
I dont get this sudden ideology.
We let them sit and struggle for a day on that ledge with no help. We struggled for hours trying to cut down the 3 trees. Yet all of a sudden we get to this room (an already amazing feat) and now he wants to change it up because they havent succeeded yet?
That makes no sense. Let them go. No "record" is going to be made if the streamer intervenes.