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Twitch Plays Pokemon: Dig, Dig for Victory!
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TheRealTalker
Banned
whats with the anarchy and democracy?
PandaPedinte
Member
patjburns89
Member
Someone will write their graduate/doctoral thesis about this. It's so amazing.
so frustrating
you've even got a few people directing chat. "vote left now" etc
but...no one gets it
Anarchy is the normal system that was in place from the start with every one making a decision.
Democracy is a voting system to make a move based on popularity of the choice.
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KojiKnight
Member
Democracy we vote on moves, anarchy is the old system/free for all.
Democracy (in theory) is to be used to handle precise puzzles like this one. Anarchy is faster and is for everything that needs less precision. You can vote on which system to use at any time, you need 75% of the vote to switch.
It's so frustrating to watch because it should be obvious by now there is a delay, yet some people can't realize that for themselves.
You can tell by the last vote with how close up and left were that there were many people who were accounting for the delay, but that number is smaller in comparison to the ones who aren't.
You can tell by the last vote with how close up and left were that there were many people who were accounting for the delay, but that number is smaller in comparison to the ones who aren't.
ComputerMKII
Banned
But it's no longer news...
They put in a voting system. If the majority picks anarchy then the original system of putting in commands is used, however if the majority of people want democracy then each move is done by a vote.
You know, no matter how dumb this gets... I'm glad I found this thread. I'm glad I joined early enough to see us grow from Cerulean to Celadon. I'm glad I saw Abby beat the American and I'm glad I was groaning with the rest of us at the ledge and I'm glad I saw Pidgeot become a star.
This is the best game of Pokemon Red I've had since I was eight years old.
Or Gold with Morty's gym.
This is the best game of Pokemon Red I've had since I was eight years old.
Or Gold with Morty's gym.
Corronchilejano
Member
There has been no progress whatsoever with it.
ratcliffja
Member
With more people coming in, fewer understand the delay. Looks like another 24 hours in here.
KojiKnight
Member
Mossdeep in R/S would be a fun thing to watch it was changed in emerald if I recall correctly, sootopolis is just a chore if you mess up.
TheRealTalker
Banned
Anarchy is the normal system that was in place from the start with every one making a decision.
Democracy is a voting system to make a move based on popularity of the choice.
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got it makes things way more easier
KojiKnight
Member
This is a terrible idea and the helix condemns you to a fate worse than death... Cerulean City.
it's working, but it's not a guarantee with twitch lag. This is only attempt 3 on the new system... the problem is lag, and that this system is very very slow and thus takes time.
Rebel Leader
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Ray Wonder
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Lag, and the people who don't know there is lag. That's whats stopping us.
The real problem with democracy is that most people really don't know what to do ingame, on top of the fact that they don't understand the twitch delay apparently.
Bring back anarchy and let us follow the way of the helix, as was intended. Also WHY THE HELL ARE WE STILL NOT TRYING TO GET A POKEDOLL? If we managed to give the water to that guy and to evolve Eevee then it should not be a problem, if we are a little cautious (anti-start squad constantly pressing B until we get to the tower).
Bring back anarchy and let us follow the way of the helix, as was intended. Also WHY THE HELL ARE WE STILL NOT TRYING TO GET A POKEDOLL? If we managed to give the water to that guy and to evolve Eevee then it should not be a problem, if we are a little cautious (anti-start squad constantly pressing B until we get to the tower).
Waluigilicious
Member
Someone just asked "is a bot playing this or a real person". Even a real person could be controlling this right now, it's nothing extraordinary. If it wasn't for the original system none of the memes would exist and it wouldn't have got so much coverage. The people are not in full control! Switch back!
KojiKnight
Member
We did, we had several. We also threw them away.
Err... we're already using the democracy system in the maze...
bluelightningduo
Member
If only Dux were using cut 1 foot away from a tree.
I'm very sad I missed all that. Just found this yesterdayYou know, no matter how dumb this gets... I'm glad I found this thread. I'm glad I joined early enough to see us grow from Cerulean to Celadon. I'm glad I saw Abby beat the American and I'm glad I was groaning with the rest of us at the ledge and I'm glad I saw Pidgeot become a star.
This is the best game of Pokemon Red I've had since I was eight years old.
There's a bigger problem with this as the lag isn't consistant with everyone.
Some people will get 20, some 30 all the way up to 60.
Oh sorry i thought the bar on the stream meant they were using anarchy. I guess red is moving slower.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
some people prefer the anarchy system.
Imho, you're just as likely to fail with both systems, but at least anarchy is fun and doesn't take forever.
The Jay Lettata in the background is glorious. I love this community.
Yeah, I know. But (I don't know how democracy will do though) it still seems like the better choice really, considering our past. Also I believe a couple were used in a fight? Given a more constant use of B we should be OK, we had some items for a long time which were never used/tossed.
maniac-kun
Member
KojiKnight
Member
When the bar reaches the dotted line, then it will switch to anarchy. It takes 75% of the vote to switch each way.
Wow, things changed a lot overnight.
The fix for this would be to allow combo commands like "Democracy Left" so they can do both at once.
iirc, the way it happened was that we got our pokedolls trying to buy a stone, ended up with 3 of them, got stuck on the route east of celadon (because of the super-split between going to lavender, going to saffron from that side, or going to saffron from the current side) and ended up using all of them on wild battles for all the times we wandered in the grass. None of them were actually tossed, and if the stream had a more unified goal they wouldn't have stayed around in that grass so long.
KittenMaster
Member
KojiKnight
Member
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results my friend. Twitch has made it's choice, and we need to focus first on the task at hand.
Waluigilicious
Member
For this method to work, he needs to give a minute per vote, that way the lag would be taken into account. It would be very slow but it would get them through. Yeah I don't see the point as that is the same thing as him doing it, but it makes more sense than this which is just people vs. lag. We know what the majority WANT to do and with this system if the lag wasn't there this maze would have been done an hour ago. The only thing stopping it now is the lag, whereas before yeah the lag played a big role but so did every single input.
We were in the base for a day and got absolutely no where. Now we're making progress. I think this is more interesting for this part of the game. Before we were just alternating between the two mazes.
KojiKnight
Member
I agree, and it would GREATLY de-incentivize using it for any extended period of time when it could be avoided.
