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Guilty_AI
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And he criticizes musk from twitter, while subscribed to twitter blue.
Its like meta-meta-meta irony.
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"give me money or else." has probably inspired more exit strategies.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Dude, we all know that you want Twitter to fail and we also know why.
And this fantasy all hinges on him and twitter. What a hero he makes himself out to be.
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Sakura
Member
Wait how is free speech under threat
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
If you told me right now I could pick between Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, and Twitter. I could chose any of them and it would burst into flames and fail.
Twitter would be my 3rd pick. I want them all to fail.
ManaByte
Member
Vestal
Junior Member
So we are now on to the phase of "Delusions of grandeur"
He truly is speed running this whole thing.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
It's not. Musk has just managed to delude himself and others into believing that not being able to say whatever you want on Twitter is the death of free speech. All because major advertisers are jumping ship because of his bizarre behavior and poor content moderation decisions. He has also has several regulatory agencies on his ass now as well.
TL;DR: Musk wasted 44 billion dollars, saddled the company with enormous debt, and has now completely lost it.
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akimbo009
Gold Member
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
pramod
Banned
Because stating simple things like "men have a penis" will get you banned from all of the popular social media sites. Yes i know these are businesses so they can do what they want so i actually think this isnt a battle for free speech. Its part of a much larger culture war which involves all sorts of media and technology etc. Whoever wins will decide the future of civilization.
akimbo009
Gold Member
Men have a penis.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
No I’m real I swear.
Vestal
Junior Member
Sakura
Member
Even under Musk though, Twitter will/does still have some form of moderation though, so it seems strange for him to cry about "free speech".
Just trying to drum up his fans I guess.
He has always been kind of delusional.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
You use Light Mode though. You know what kind of person uses Light Mode?
A Synth.
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akimbo009
Gold Member
A monster, that's who.
ManaByte
Member
There's a huge difference between moderation and a platform suppressing a story to influence an election. I think most people know that, but people conflating free speech with hate speech are just being disingenuous and trying to deflect and distract from the crimes the previous Twitter regime was guilty of and that Musk wants to expose.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Musk can expose whatever he wants. I don't care about that.
His continual insistence on bad moderation decisions and laughing at his horrible business decisions is what I care about.
My issue with Elon Musk’s approach here, is that he’s inconsistent. He says Twitter is a “public square” but he’s already determined that some people don’t get to have access to the “public square” (i.e. Alex Jones). And yet, Alex Jones can go into the public square in Austin, Texas and various other areas in the United States and utilize those spaces.
My stance hasn’t changed on the matter, as I hold the same opinion now as I did pre-Elon when Twitter banned Trump. It’s a private company, and Elon can allow or refuse whomever he wants. But he doesn’t get to play the free speech card.
My stance hasn’t changed on the matter, as I hold the same opinion now as I did pre-Elon when Twitter banned Trump. It’s a private company, and Elon can allow or refuse whomever he wants. But he doesn’t get to play the free speech card.
Guilty_AI
Member
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Regarding his inconsistencies:
Free speech for me......
Pssss.... look closer
Edit: OK since you never figured it out, it's quite clearly not Twitter, she's on Mastodon. *snort*
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Reminds me of the time I saw a VP or CEO of The Body Shop on stage in the 2000s. Some middle aged lady. Part of her speech was anti-animal slaughter or whatever and she wore a leather coat. She even openly admitted it on stage in case anyone questioned her on it and just shrugged it off laughing. She must had done that as a precursor knowing she gets that question a lot.
Weirdest seque I ever saw from any presenter I've seen on stage.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Regarding his inconsistencies:
Free speech for me......
Pssss.... look closer
Even I have to assume that just due to them being short staffed and relying on some kind of strange half-assed algorithm to handle reports at the moment.
I can't imagine that being on purpose and so transparent.
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akimbo009
Gold Member
Regarding his inconsistencies:
Free speech for me......
Pssss.... look closer
That avocado burn is legit funny.
LegendOfKage
Member
The government has threatened Facebook, Twitter, You Tube, etc with regulation if they don't do a better job stopping misinformation. If you're willing to accept that certain criticism of Covid policy is misinformation, and you're willing to accept another particular politically charged allegation is misinformation, that's fine. We used to just call things "wrong" or "incorrect" before everyone started with fake news / misinformation, and of course it's fine to say things are wrong, or untrue, or lies.
However, allowing governments to determine truth and accepting that they work alongside platform holders to remove or ban those who disagree is a power that can and will be abused. Even if you don't believe that's true right now, it creates a dangerous precedent that can be abused in the future.
But if that is what he's talking about, I would agree he should probably be a bit more specific. To do otherwise does come across as hyperbolic. Perhaps once the character limit on Twitter is considerably increased, we'll have more room for nuance and specificity.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Love it. And that's the point of social media! Who would be better leading it than master troller Musk himself! lol
Toons
Member
I use light mode on ALL my sites.Of course I do. On websites that actually matter.
Fear me
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I do too, mostly because my vision is trash tier and I’m only getting older.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Assuming he's not memeing right now, that sounds like an overreaction. The first amendment is not getting repealed anytime soon. I understand his complaints regarding the culture war, but those are complaints on a lesser tier of urgency.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
This phone thing would be.....interesting. Odds would be 100% against Elon, let's not get it twisted. If it's Tesla made and branded then it would not ultimately be Elon's call, but the board.
Amazon tried to make a phone and failed miserably. MS tried and failed, even if they failed less miserably than Amazon. A lot of big named brands, i.e. Sony, also failed at the mobile space - and they were using Android. Tesla and Elon would only have 3 options for a phone OS IMO.
1. Use the Tesla OS, which is built on top of Ubuntu I believe. It would need a lot of ground up work to get the mobile part of it done to get it up to par with iOS 16 and Android 13.
2. Team Up with Microsoft and/or Amazon on a Joint Venture to minimize risk for each company and either use Windows OS or Fire OS or something co developed. Still the same issue as above + the issue that JVs generally start presenting a lot more issues later on (see Sony Ericsson, Hulu, Sony BMG, among others)
3. Fork Android and make their own flavor based off it like what Amazon has done for Fire Tablet and TV.
The elephant in the room though is the app store and convincing people to switch (outside the hardcore). For the former even if we use Paretto's principle they'd still need ~500K apps available (assuming App Store/Google Play is in the ~2.5M number of apps range). How do they get devs to support it? Working with Valve for Full Steam integration (since Elon already wanted to do that for Tesla anyways) and/or XBox Gamepass and PS Now could actually be interesting and take care of the game app issue, but still lacks a lot of necessary apps (Youtube and Map sure as hell wouldn't go there). The latter may even be harder because people are satisfied with their current phones. Give a new Teslaphone for every new Tesla purchased? I have no idea. It would have to have a major differentiator for people to jump ship.
That's not even counting people who have business phones. Companies would have to run Security checks on the devices to make sure they pass all their internal test before even considering allowing employees to use the phone for business.
TLDR, a Teslaphone has too many roadblocks and challenges IMO and it would actually be easier to sue Apple or Google if they try to remove Twitter from their digital store. I know everyone doubts Elon's new ventures (I remember people doubting Tesla, SpaceX, BoringCo, Neuralink, openAI, and now Twitter) but even I would doubt a go into the phone realm.
Amazon tried to make a phone and failed miserably. MS tried and failed, even if they failed less miserably than Amazon. A lot of big named brands, i.e. Sony, also failed at the mobile space - and they were using Android. Tesla and Elon would only have 3 options for a phone OS IMO.
1. Use the Tesla OS, which is built on top of Ubuntu I believe. It would need a lot of ground up work to get the mobile part of it done to get it up to par with iOS 16 and Android 13.
2. Team Up with Microsoft and/or Amazon on a Joint Venture to minimize risk for each company and either use Windows OS or Fire OS or something co developed. Still the same issue as above + the issue that JVs generally start presenting a lot more issues later on (see Sony Ericsson, Hulu, Sony BMG, among others)
3. Fork Android and make their own flavor based off it like what Amazon has done for Fire Tablet and TV.
The elephant in the room though is the app store and convincing people to switch (outside the hardcore). For the former even if we use Paretto's principle they'd still need ~500K apps available (assuming App Store/Google Play is in the ~2.5M number of apps range). How do they get devs to support it? Working with Valve for Full Steam integration (since Elon already wanted to do that for Tesla anyways) and/or XBox Gamepass and PS Now could actually be interesting and take care of the game app issue, but still lacks a lot of necessary apps (Youtube and Map sure as hell wouldn't go there). The latter may even be harder because people are satisfied with their current phones. Give a new Teslaphone for every new Tesla purchased? I have no idea. It would have to have a major differentiator for people to jump ship.
That's not even counting people who have business phones. Companies would have to run Security checks on the devices to make sure they pass all their internal test before even considering allowing employees to use the phone for business.
TLDR, a Teslaphone has too many roadblocks and challenges IMO and it would actually be easier to sue Apple or Google if they try to remove Twitter from their digital store. I know everyone doubts Elon's new ventures (I remember people doubting Tesla, SpaceX, BoringCo, Neuralink, openAI, and now Twitter) but even I would doubt a go into the phone realm.
FunkMiller
Member
Most people on Twitter look at posts like this and shake their heads.
Because most people on Twitter aren’t in fucking America
tommib
Banned
Sam Harris left Twitter and told us all about it on his last podcast (and he didn’t leave necessarily because of Elon). I agree on every fucking point the guy makes:Most people on Twitter look at posts like this and shake their heads.
Because most people on Twitter aren’t in fucking America
#304 — Why I Left Twitter
Podcastaflevering · Making Sense with Sam Harris · 28-11-2022 · 1u 10m
podcasts.apple.com
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winjer
Gold Member
If only the Roman Empire had Twitter, it could have been saved...
Tams
Member
I don't resent the Royal Family because for various reasons, but staying in their positions as the main one, they work hard to be likeable and at least appear like they are doing good (to a range of people). Well, most of them.
I don't resent lottery winners because they never have anything to do with my life. I couldn't name a single one if I tried. So I have no reason to resent them.
So why do I resent Musk? Well, yes, some is jealously of his wealth and success; I sure would like that. His drive too. But most of it is because, well, he's simply a silly cunt.
Okay, what do mean by that? I mean he does things like trying to insert himself where he is neither wanted not needed. Sometimes immediately; sometimes after he's been involved a while. And then when told he's not/no longer wanted or needed he acts like a bad 7-year-old.
Or his amorality about things he could have major sway over.
His proposed mini-submarine is considered too risky and impractical? He calls one of the rescuers a paedophile.
He calls for freedom of expression? He pumps billions into the PRC.
He calls for better transit? He tries to derail (dad joke here) other projects while pissing about with his own that goes nowhere.
He says he supports people fighting for their freedom? He then tries to overcharge the US government for continued support. And then when the general opinion turns against him, he has a pissy fit.
He tells people to be bolder and to try and be successful like him? He pumps and dumps stock and shares, plus some Doge on the side.
People moan about him on a website with a blue bird? He pisses $44 billion up the wall buying the shitty site.
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Swift_Star
Banned
Elon bizarrely believes the American concept of free speech is universal. I have a bridge to sell to him.
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Scott’s in a mood today:
Maybe he and Elon really will hack us out of the simulation
Maybe he and Elon really will hack us out of the simulation
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Somehow that doesn't seem like a threat to civilization. And I hadn't heard of that being a threat to civilization before. The claim has shifted a bit and now it's supposedly free speech that is under attack that will destroy civilization, but somehow I think they're still referring to this.Worry not, there is no shortage of examples to give
The only other place where I've read that a woke mind virus is destroying civilization is from anti-Western war propaganda full of falsehoods coming out of Russia.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
murmulis
Member
Musk Derangement Syndrome is real.
That does sound effective, and may have been for Tesla. Seems to be trying a different approach with Twitter
I got fired from Twitter the day before Thanksgiving. I was pro-Musk but it didn't save me.
Engineer Ikuhiro Ihara was among the Twitter employees fired by Elon Musk the night before Thanksgiving via email for "non satisfactory code."
www.businessinsider.com
There was no time to meet each engineer. The "reviews" ended up being a team-wide presentation of what each team does – and it took Musk until midnight to make it to my team.
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