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I don’t know who he is but his Twitter bio has BLM and pronouns

If you knew who he was you’d probably conclude that’s meant to be ironic

 

[daffyduck]

Regarding his inconsistencies:

Spoiler: In case the tweet gets nuked

That sounds like a deletion the people deriding Musk about moderation would get behind.

Let's get real, it's not just the dictionary definition they're whinging about.

 

[SlimySnake]

Ive always thought the 30% cut was way too much on video game digital stores. Retail takes 20% out of the $60 on each game and the costs of running a retail store are far higher than running data centers. I think what console manufacturers are doing is using the same 20% Retail + 10% Manufacturer royalty they would get from each sale and adding it all up for digital sales which might seem fair at first, but since they are already getting the digital sale, it doesnt make sense to keep the 10% royalty cut anymore. I think 20% should be fine, but then again, there is no shipping and distribution costs for publishers to worry about. No packaging costs. So they are definitely saving another 5% there.

That said, Apple, Sony, Microsoft spend billions on hardware and while Apple sells everything for a profit, sony and MS do not. If Epic and Twitter dont want to pay the 30% fee, they can spend tens of billions on R&D of new consoles and new phones then hundreds of millions on support every year.

 

[AJUMP23]

I love bobs.

I actually liked the other one more.

 

[funkygunther]

Everyone who cares about the culture wars has already bought their Freedom Phone

 

[Guilty_AI]

Somehow that doesn't seem like a threat to civilization. And I hadn't heard of that being a threat to civilization before. The claim has shifted a bit and now it's supposedly free speech that is under attack that will destroy civilization, but somehow I think they're still referring to this.

The only other place where I've read that a woke mind virus is destroying civilization is from anti-Western war propaganda full of falsehoods coming out of Russia.

By themselves it may not look like much, but it keeps adding

Off-campus UC Berkeley student housing bans white people from common areas

“Many POC moved here to be able to avoid white violence and presence, so respect their decision of avoidance if you bring white guests,” the rules declare. “White guests are not allowed in common s…

nypost.com

 

[Kraz]

By themselves it may not look like much, but it keeps adding

Off-campus UC Berkeley student housing bans white people from common areas

“Many POC moved here to be able to avoid white violence and presence, so respect their decision of avoidance if you bring white guests,” the rules declare. “White guests are not allowed in common s…

nypost.com

That wasn't one of the things in the woke mind virus anti-Western propaganda out of Russia which was more focused on LGBQT+ and, strangely, an awesome future where everyone living like in Altered Carbon that is something to fear that would end civilization. But, to that issue you point out, if there is any validity to the complaint their are justice mechanisms in place that have dealt with similar issues in the past. It's not a threat to civilization.

 

[Swift_Star]

Worry not, there is no shortage of examples to give

Can you please explain how will that threaten 8 billion people?

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Dude, we all know that you want Twitter to fail and we also know why.

People in glass houses should not be throwing stones.

This entire thread is full of people who wished death on Twitter until the company changed hands and was perceived as also changing teams, at which point they started cheering at Twitter growing MAUs and whatnot.

 

[Guilty_AI]

That wasn't one of the things in the woke mind virus anti-Western propaganda out of Russia which was more focused on LGBQT+ and, strangely, an awesome future where everyone living like in Altered Carbon that is something to fear that would end civilization.

Theres always more:

404 - Page not found | Cyprus Mail

cyprus-mail.com

Despite male suicide, school cancels men’s health day after feminists complain - Washington Examiner

International Men's Day, celebrated on November 19, is suppose to highlight men's mental and physical health issues, but the University of York decided to cancel the event under pressure from feminists. The event was cancelled just 24 hours after a 21-year-old committed suicide on campus. The...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

White students banned from Black History Month events at Westminster University

‘Tragic’ decision by union sees institution accused of ‘racial segregation’ and sowing ‘interethnic suspicion and division’

www.telegraph.co.uk

But, to that issue you point out, if there is any validity to the complaint their are justice mechanisms in place that have dealt with similar issues in the past. It's not a threat to civilization.

Well, that "justice mechanism" isn't doing anything

 

[Guilty_AI]

Can you please explain how will that threaten 8 billion people?

don't enter the conversation in the middle mate, feel free to scroll past and future posts.

 

[Kraz]

Theres always more:

404 - Page not found | Cyprus Mail

cyprus-mail.com

Despite male suicide, school cancels men’s health day after feminists complain - Washington Examiner

International Men's Day, celebrated on November 19, is suppose to highlight men's mental and physical health issues, but the University of York decided to cancel the event under pressure from feminists. The event was cancelled just 24 hours after a 21-year-old committed suicide on campus. The...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

White students banned from Black History Month events at Westminster University

‘Tragic’ decision by union sees institution accused of ‘racial segregation’ and sowing ‘interethnic suspicion and division’

www.telegraph.co.uk

Well, that "justice mechanism" isn't doing anything

Again these are not unique problems which people have faced. Others have had to deal with them, in worse situation in terms of oversight and bias, and civilization survived. People used to be jailed for publicly saying they were gay. Cross dressing was even illegal at one time. Sometimes it moves slowly and makes mistakes, but if held to ideals, standards, oversight and review it will move in the correct direction before the public in a secular and evidential way.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Again these are not unique problems which people have faced. Others have had to deal with them, in worse situation in terms of oversight and bias, and civilization survived. People used to be jailed for publicly saying they were gay. Cross dressing was even illegal at one time. Sometimes it moves slowly and makes mistakes, but if held to ideals, standards, oversight and review it will move in the correct direction before the public.

Thanks to people making a stand against the ones with power propagating these problems , like we are right now by calling to attention the ideologies causing all these backwardnesses i've been posting. Ideologies some like to call the 'woke mind virus'.

 

[BadBurger]

Can you please explain how will that threaten 8 billion people?

I wouldn't expect a direct answer (and as I was typing this I see I was correct).

Earlier he tried to prove that other advertisers were increasing buys on Twitter to fill the void left by those stopping, and provided a link to an article that only showed a small sample of data from the first two weeks of the month. He ignored the fact that virtually all of the companies cited within that article had actually stopped spending on ads on the platform all together by the time he posted it - literally disproving whatever point he was trying to make.

He later attempted to dismiss a joke / criticism from a person who I linked because he thought they had a paid-for verified Twitter account. When it was obvious the screenshot I shared was from Mastodon, not Twitter (a @ username@namespace was plainly visible, as was the footer which is entirely different from Twitter's.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I wouldn't expect a direct answer (and as I was typing this I see I was correct).

Earlier he tried to prove that other advertisers were increasing buys on Twitter to fill the void left by those stopping, and provided a link to an article that only showed a small sample of data from the first two weeks of the month. He ignored the fact that virtually all of the companies cited within that article had actually stopped spending on ads on the platform all together by the time he posted it - literally disproving whatever point he was trying to make.

We only have small sample datas right now, how do you expect me to post any more than a 15 days sample when it has barely been a month? And by virtually all the companies you mean one?

He later attempted to dismiss a joke / criticism from a person who I linked because he thought they had a paid-for verified Twitter account. When it was obvious the screenshot I shared was from Mastodon, not Twitter (a @ username@namespace was plainly visible, as was the footer which is entirely different from Twitter's.

Shes on twitter, shes paying for twitter blue, and she made that exact same post there

https://twitter.com/novelsci

 

[BadBurger]

We only have small sample datas right now, how do you expect me to post any more than a 15 days sample when it has barely been a month? And by virtually all the companies you mean one?


Shes on twitter, shes paying for twitter blue, and she made that exact same post there

https://twitter.com/novelsci

Bolded: One? You should re-read that article, and then read more recent news (recent as in from a week ago).

Regarding that poster: She was verified in the past and had it revoked at some point, and later got verified to test the algorithm(s) just prior to quiet quitting Twitter (the process being shared by many right now). Besides, it doesn't mean the hypocrisy she was pointing out didn't happen.

Anywho

Twitter is no longer enforcing its COVID-19 misinformation policy. I bet advertisers and government bodies like the EU are going to love that:

COVID-19 - X Transparency Center

transparency.twitter.com

(The doc cites a date of Nov 23, but it was updated this morning)

 

[Guilty_AI]

Bolded: One? You should re-read that article, and then read more recent news (recent as in from a week ago).

Only mentions Macy's dropping ads, found nothing about any of the other five on that list. And we won't know how the overall situation progressed until new data on the total ad revenue comes out.

 

[BadBurger]

Only mentions Macy's dropping ads, found nothing about any of the other five on that list. And we won't know how the overall situation progressed until new data on the total ad revenue comes out.

Again, read more recent news. I can look at that article you shared and off the top of my head see these have all since stopped:

Apple
L’Oréal
Macy's
Mondelēz International

That's without even having to google. I just read, listen to, and watch the news every day.

Edit: I forgot Nestle, somehow I missed that

 

[Guilty_AI]

Again, read more recent news. I can look at that article you shared and off the top of my head see these have all since stopped:

Apple
L’Oréal
Macy's
Mondelēz International

That's without even having to google. I just read, listen to, and watch the news every day.

Edit: I forgot Nestle, somehow I missed that

Wasn't the whole point of me sharing the article to show other companies take the place of these top advertisers who decide to leave twitter? Did you forget our original conversation?

here:

Article forgets to mention other advertisers are increasing their spending to take advantage of the vacuum tho.

 

[Kraz]

Thanks to people making a stand against the ones with power propagating these problems , like we are right now by calling to attention the ideologies causing all these backwardnesses i've been posting. Ideologies some like to call the 'woke mind virus'.

If there was any legitimacy to those claims it sounds more like a problem with petty tyrants being experienced for the first time causing an overreaction. A small time corruption possibly taking advantage of a situation for retribution. Not exactly an organized threat to civilization beyond the possible usual that needs to be criminalized. There's people that want to victimize everywhere and look for ways to do so. Trying to tie it into a a pattern that destabilizes all civilization does something of a disservice to confronting any real cause and mistakenly blames something vague and many that have nothing to do with it.

I asked you specifically what the woke end of civilization was about. Since you seem to be in the know about those things. You haven't answered, yet.

Due to only seeing it in anti-Western Russian propaganda is the reason I've been asking so often and holding off mentioning where I seent it until today.

The connection being made there between LGBQT+ to Altered Carbon(over the next hundred years) to end of civilization is something else in mental gymnastics, but at least it connects it.

 

[BadBurger]

Wasn't the whole point of me sharing the article to show other companies take the place of these top advertisers who decide to leave twitter? Did you forget our original conversation?

here:

Yea, and you didn't prove that. As we discussed, it only showed a few companies increase spending during that time frame. No one "took the place" of those large advertisers. A few companies increasing their spending didn't come close to filling that void. And again, by the time you shared that article, the deficit was already far greater and was common knowledge to those following the situation.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Yea, and you didn't prove that. As we discussed, it only showed a few companies increase spending during that time frame. No one "took the place" of those large advertisers. A few companies increasing their spending didn't come close to filling that void. And again, by the time you shared that article, the deficit was already far greater and was common knowledge to those following the situation.

-The time frame which is the only one we have
-article further shows ad revenue only decreased around 15% or so, not the end of the world situation other sensacionalist media is spreading.
-You say the deficit is far greater but has no data on ad revenue to prove it.

Dude, at this point you might as well just go "lah lah lah, can't hear anything, i'm right you're wrong!"

This conversation will only continue when you can show to me clear data on the ad revenue decreasing further from that.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I asked you specifically what the woke end of civilization was about.

You didn't ask me anything, I'm not in this conversation. I just laugh at the default "Russia, Russia, Russia" narrative in the ether.

You can literally predict what people will say on how they're marketed to.

 

[Guilty_AI]

If there was any legitimacy to those claims it sounds more like a problem with petty tyrants being experienced for the first time causing an overreaction. A small time corruption possibly taking advantage of a situation for retribution. Not exactly an organized threat to civilization beyond the possible usual that needs to be criminalized. There's people that want to victimize everywhere and look for ways to do so. Trying to tie it into a a pattern that destabilizes all civilization does something of a disservice to confronting any real cause and mistakenly blames something vague and many that have nothing to do with it.

When people lose not only jobs but also job prospects over it, i wouldn't call it an "overreaction"

The Price of Dissent

Zac Kriegman had the ideal résumé for the professional-managerial class: a bachelors in economics from Michigan and a J.D. from Harvard and years of experience with high-tech startups, a white-shoe law firm, and an econometrics research consultancy. He then spent six years at Thomson Reuters...

www.city-journal.org

 

[BadBurger]

-The time frame which is the only one we have
-article further shows ad revenue only decreased around 15% or so, not the end of the world situation other sensacionalist media is spreading.
-You say the deficit is far greater but has no data on ad revenue to prove it.

Dude, at this point you might as well just go "lah lah lah, can't hear anything, i'm right you're wrong!"

This conversation will only continue when you can show to me clear data on the ad revenue decreasing further from that.

This is from three weeks ago. Mondelez alone (they represent a large number of massive brands) would be a larger loss than any sort of gain the article you shared may have suggested:

MSN

Basic, obvious inferences can be made from information that was already known at the time of you sharing that article.

And I don't care if the conversation continues, in fact I wish you'd stop replying and provoking me to keep showing you how you're incorrect. And you still haven't proven your initial claim: that other advertisers filled the obvious losses huge advertisers left when they suspended spending or left. The burden of proof is on you, not me.

 

[AJUMP23]

No I’m real I swear.

Post picture of Shoe on head....

 

[Guilty_AI]

Basic, obvious inferences can be made from information that was already known at the time of you sharing that article.

I don't want "inferences" i want ad revenue data to comprove said inferences, because the data i've showed paints a different picture.

And you still haven't proven your initial claim: that other advertisers filled the obvious losses huge advertisers left when they suspended spending or left. The burden of proof is on you, not me.

I've showed you clear numerical data, your turn.

 

[Kraz]

You didn't ask me anything, I'm not in this conversation. I just laugh at the default "Russia, Russia, Russia" narrative in the ether.

You can literally predict what people will say on how they're marketed to.

The question addressed to you is from Sunday and bolded below. Also, besides your apparent familiarity with talking points implied by your displays of quickly shown offense to them, was asked since both are related and were part of the current conversation in the thread in regards to ideological narratives.
The first sentence was in regards to the way Musk's attitude appears to people with mild left opinions causing irreconcilable differences. Overreacting like thinking there's a threat to civilization. It sounds more to me like he's losing it and grasping.

Against the absolute ideological farce of a narrative that anything left of far-right is considered far-left contributes to causing irreconcilable differences.

In that vein, it doesn't help when Musk uses hyperbolic language associated with far right conspiracies saying he believes that a woke mind virus penetrates entertainment leading civilization to suicide. What and how any of that "leads civilization to suicide" provokes a few questions about it and Musk's condition. Maybe you can explain what "leading civilization to suicide" means? What is this suicide? The most generous explanation I can think of without an explanation is derived from equating 'woke mind virus' with LGBTQ+(from other sources) and is quite diabolical and, if it's the case, would be understandably threatening to people. Knowing what Musk means might help.

Is the pattern that some people can change their minds with new information?
Or is there a conspiracy with the hidden powers of the established status quo? Is it possible people like certain things and don't want them threatened?

 

[Maiden Voyage]

Post picture of Shoe on head....

Kinky but okay

 

[Swift_Star]

On another topic. Just read musk is stopping the COVID-19 misinformation policies on twitter… and then will cry harder because companies are leaving the platform lol

 

[DeepEnigma]

The question addressed to you is from Sunday and bolded below. Also, besides your apparent familiarity with talking points implied by your displays of quickly shown offense to them, was asked since both are related and were part of the current conversation in the thread in regards to ideological narratives.
The first sentence was in regards to the way Musk's attitude appears to people with mild left opinions causing irreconcilable differences. Overreacting like thinking there's a threat to civilization. It sounds more to me like he's losing it and grasping.

You're pseudo intellectualism is always a joy and original to read. You are every bit what you project onto others here. Lost in the ideological sauce.

 

[Kraz]

On another topic. Just read musk is stopping the COVID-19 misinformation policies on twitter… and then will cry harder because companies are leaving the platform lol

Freedom of peaceful assembly also means free to peacefully leave, right?

 

[DeepEnigma]

On another topic. Just read musk is stopping the COVID-19 misinformation policies on twitter… and then will cry harder because companies are leaving the platform lol

The president said the pandemic was over

 

[Vestal]

Kinky but okay

 

[Kraz]

You're pseudo intellectualism is always a joy and original to read. You are every bit what you project onto others here. Lost in the ideological sauce.

And you avoid answering direct questions with various strategies, including lying.

 

[Swift_Star]

don't enter the conversation in the middle mate, feel free to scroll past and future posts.

So you don’t have an answer? Curious…
I thought you had a point to make but I see you don’t.
Well…

 

[Swift_Star]

The president said the pandemic was over

Can’t see how that is related to allow misinformation on social media…
But the one losing advertisers is musk, not me, his problem to deal with.

 

[DeepEnigma]

And you avoid answering direct questions with various strategies, including lying.

I refuse to answer your strawman arguments, since I was never the one to say "leading civilization to suicide" in this thread. Take that up with Musk, he is pretty responsive on Twitter, I hear.

 

[BadBurger]

On another topic. Just read musk is stopping the COVID-19 misinformation policies on twitter… and then will cry harder because companies are leaving the platform lol

It got buried but I mentioned it above.

COVID-19 - X Transparency Center

transparency.twitter.com

The doc cites Nov 23, but it was updated this morning.

 

[Swift_Star]

Freedom of peaceful assembly also means free to peacefully leave, right?

Yeah. He crying over losing advertisers is hipocrita af. Like he says: freedom of speech=/=freedom of consequence.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Can’t see how that is related to allow misinformation on social media…
But the one losing advertisers is musk, not me, his problem to deal with.

Advertisers like big pharma?

Once again, the pandemic is over according to the president. Influenzas and the like don't receive the same treatment outside of pandemic status either with the ever shifting fact checkers.

 

[Swift_Star]

Advertisers like big pharma?

Once again, the pandemic is over according to the president. Influenzas and the like don't receive the same treatment outside of pandemic status either with the every shifting fact checkers.

Irrelevant. Misinformation shouldn’t be allowed. But you do you.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Irrelevant. Misinformation shouldn’t be allowed. But you do you.

Da, comrade.

We are inundated with misinformation each and every day online. What do we do? Our due diligence to check on said info.

 

[Guilty_AI]

So you don’t have an answer? Curious…
I thought you had a point to make but I see you don’t.
Well…

If you want answers, you gotta work for it mate

 

[Kraz]

Yeah. He crying over losing advertisers is hipocrita af. Like he says: freedom of speech=/=freedom of consequence.

It's not only going to be advertisers. Science and medical don't want to platform that shit and will be looking for a way out. Those supporting medical science or even just wants access to them will follow once there's a way. They won't be compelled to argue with antivaxxers over some misplaced idealism. There's pamphlets antivaxxers can read, family doctors and professional help they can seek for delusions.

 

[Vestal]

So much going on in this exchange.

What is Tech MAGA??
Is Elon actually suggesting Government regulation and oversight?!?!

 

[Nobody_Important]

He isn't spamming about Apple or other advertisers today. I wonder if his legal team and/or marketing team finally got through to him that it wasn't a good idea to publicly attack companies just for reducing their advertising.

 

[Swift_Star]

Lol the guy reduced the child pornography combat (don’t know how to say this exactly in English) team. How low can he sink?

 

[Swift_Star]

Sim

I don’t have a point, sorry.

Fixed.