PHOENIXZERO
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Yeah that was unpleasant to the ears... Ouch. Headphone warning.
Boxing has been doing this since before WWE ever existed and Rousey sure as shit didn't cut 35 pounds.
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UFC 193 OT: Ronda Rousey vs Holly Holm / First PPV headlined by 2 womens Title Fights
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Yeah that was unpleasant to the ears... Ouch. Headphone warning.
Boxing has been doing this since before WWE ever existed and Rousey sure as shit didn't cut 35 pounds.
Host Samurai
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Mostly looking forward to the FotN, Hunt vs Bigfoot
I want to see how Rhonda plays this. She can't just walk threw hh standup like she did Bethe. HH has to stay disciplined in creating space. How is hh takedown defense? Will hh patience frustrated Rhonda as most of her opponents think bull rushing her is the way to beat her which hh won't do most likely? Could be interesting, could be a 5 round snoozefest, could be other gif fight.
Mrs. Manky
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This should have ended the thread.
But I love that the F in UFC now stands for Female.
Yeah, American Pharoah has a lot of catching up to do.
It won't be a snoozefest that's for sure. Ronda is way too aggressive for it to become a 5 round snoozer.
I think regardless of Holly's boxing experience, Ronda is still going to bullrush her like she always does. It's the only way she's going to get anything done because she can't beat Holly from the outside, so the only way for her is to get in close.
As for Holly defending the trips and throws, that will definitely be interesting to see. I hope she does well, because I for one don't like to see Ronda blitz through opponents. Where is the fun in that? I don't like any title fight ending in the first round at all.
Vicetrailia
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Seems like another win for Rowdy.
BadAss2961
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She dominated Reneau, who's a pretty good fighter. Holly brings an element that isn't typical yet of WMMA, specifically the heavier classes. Fighting tactically with spacing and patience, outpointing her opponent whereas most of the other women fight brain-dead in there. Even Ronda with all her talent is pretty basic in that you know exactly what's coming.
Jest Chillin
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Reneau is a grappling specialist who elected to stand with the former Boxing champion and got out pointed. That's not domination to the extent that she was stifled. And I don't know if it's safe to say that Holm is more tactical. She uses her range fairly well but her patience seems more.. hesitation for the most part. It's why she usually opens up a bit more in the later rounds. Her whole style seems to be based around spacing and movement to avoid the takedown and hopefully land a head kick in there somewhere.
It would be great if someone could actually give Rousey a challenge. I mean 1 of her UFC fights made it past the first round. Hopefully Holly has watched that fight and fan make this last more than 30 seconds, would be good to see just how good a fighter Ronda is when taken past round 1.
Throw those shitty sidekicks she's been practicing, hope to never miss or get a leg picked, and run like Kalib Starnes for five minutes. Round two, baby.
Obliterator
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I think Holm will actually last a bit. I think Ronda finishes in rd 2 or 3.
HIGH DEF JEFF
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A dumb bet...
Went south for me last time but that Holms money line is a giant ice cream cake.
BadAss2961
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I think Ronda's in deep shit if this goes past 2 rounds. We know Holly's conditioning is solid. Ronda's is iffy.
Ninja Scooter
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Yes, and then I will deny that the shooting happened.
OpinionatedCyborg
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holm has theconditioning to do 20 rounds of her pitter patter point karate mcdojo bullshit, but I doubt she'll look fresh after a round or two of grappling with Ronda. she's shown nothing in all of her ufc appearances so far, and her only knockouts and TKOs have been to the canniest cans I've ever seen. I do hope she proves me wrong, though cuz fuck dana and fuck the police
BadAss2961
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If Ronda gets to grapple with her the fight won't last long. If the fight goes past 2 rounds it'll be because Ronda hasn't been able to get a good hold of her.
Ninja Scooter
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Holm should step up her Vaseline game. Someone in her camp get Georges on the line.
PhantomZone
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Hope Rousey loses, can't stand her. The way they've built the match up being all about her, it takes two people to have a match you know!!
Sydney obviously had the better UFC event/ppv being the first time the UFC came to Australia years ago, this Melbourne event is meaningless.
Sydney obviously had the better UFC event/ppv being the first time the UFC came to Australia years ago, this Melbourne event is meaningless.
BadAss2961
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lol. That's actually a great suggestion.
ElectricBlanketFire
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So is the Rousey fight going to start at 2 a.m. like the last one?
It would be hilarious after all the UFC has done to build her up, and EA putting her on the cover too.
Would make for an even greater OT than UFC 162, friend.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Yep, can't wait for the "Can Holly Holm beat Floyd Mayweather" threads.
Holm is part of Jackson MMA. Mike Winkeljohn has been her coach since day 1.
Wake me up when Ronda is 38 years old and anyone questioning her mortality is considered a troll, she's finished twice by Holly Holm and there's still people posting in this thread that think it was a fluke and she'd win the third fight when she's 40.
TrumanBurbank
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I think Ronda will beat Holly and then Amanda Nunes at UFC 200 and then retire.
It's probably why she doesn't care that she is hated now because she knows she has two BIG paydays left.
Hardly anyone makes it big in movies so she will fade away into obscurity after that like Gina Carano but still keep making good paychecks doing films.
It's probably why she doesn't care that she is hated now because she knows she has two BIG paydays left.
Hardly anyone makes it big in movies so she will fade away into obscurity after that like Gina Carano but still keep making good paychecks doing films.
Your Entertainer
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Let me break down this fight. SPOILERS AHEAD:
AND.HERE.WE.GO! Ronda rushes towards Holly flailing armpunches. They clinch. Holm defends for a bit, gets thrown to the ground and armbarred. AND IT IS AALLLL OOOVEERRRR!
"She's the best. Not just athlete, Mike. Best human, ever, period. I'm lucky to have even been alive at the same time as this perfect being."
AND.HERE.WE.GO! Ronda rushes towards Holly flailing armpunches. They clinch. Holm defends for a bit, gets thrown to the ground and armbarred. AND IT IS AALLLL OOOVEERRRR!
"She's the best. Not just athlete, Mike. Best human, ever, period. I'm lucky to have even been alive at the same time as this perfect being."
Didn't Rousey mention at some point that she likes to do things in phases? I swear she talked about doing things like that such as being an olympian and then leaving that do to mma and then eventually retiring to do movies and then something else instead.
Personally, I think it would be more entertaining for Ronda to lose at this point. Its impressive how quickly she finishes opponents but only an upset can be really interesting at this point.
bone_and_sinew
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What a shitty card, only fights I'm going to watch are Big Foot v Hunt 2 and Whittaker v Hall to root against Hall. If Joanna Champion fought Claudia Gadelha again I'd watch.
Pristine_Condition
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That's an interesting point. The counterpoint of course would be:
Boxing conditioning is nothing like MMA conditioning, because you don't have to wrestle.
Also, Rousey has been doing training camps to go 5 rounds since January 2012 when she found out she was getting the Strikeforce title shot. Rousey has had more championship fights than regular fights in her career at this point, Which means she's been practicing to go 5 rounds more often than she's been practicing to go 3. In contrast, this will be only the second time in her MMA career that Holm has had a camp preparing her for a 5 rnd. fight.
Man, this is a great card. In addition to the double-main...Hunt vs. Bigfoot in a rematch of arguably the best heavyweight brawl in MMA history?
And if you can't get crazy excited for Hall vs. Whittaker, I honestly don't know what you want out of watching MMA...
Struve vs. Rosholt is gud too. Struve and Rosholt fights are generally good in some fashion, even when they lose. Both guys can bang, both guys can hit subs.
So every fight on the main card is either interesting because it has a real dominant athlete who is a treat to watch, or the potential to be a war or a spectacular finish. Don't see how that is a bad card at all.
ffs, use tags!
Lovely Salsa
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In how many hours does it start?
TrumanBurbank
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The fight before that:
"Mike I am TERRIFIED for Paige Van Zant. I cannot believe they are even considering the possibility of her fighting Joanna."
Meanwhile, no mention of the fact that Claudia Gadelha put up a great fight with Joanna.
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Prelims start in 90 minutes, main card starts in a little over 5 hours from now.
Phat Michael
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Looking forward to some excellent striking in the main event.
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Looking forward to some excellent striking in the main event.
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Looking forward to some excellent striking in the main event.
I seen that on Sherdog and was nearly crying!
slightconfuse
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Glad more people get to see Joanna fight
Phat Michael
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Me too I almost shat myself when I saw it.
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