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UFC targets July 9th Rousey rematch. Holm shelved 8 months, perhaps against wishes
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What? She's an athlete. Are you going into the NFL thread protecting Jameis Winston's honor?
You haven't been in a Taco Bell thread in the past 5 years, have you? Nothing but pictures of overweight Josh Freeman.
Friend, he/she obviously isn't familiar with the body shaming culture surrounding mixed martials.
There are so few title fights so I can't stand it when we have to wait so long for a title defense. I also think that Holly should get to fight again before the rematch. That said Ronda was champion for a long time so she deserve some consideration and probably should get first stab at beating Holly. I'm torn on it tbh. All I know for certain is that I will be rooting for Holly in that rematch that's for damn sure.
And not getting injured or losing in the meantime will guarantee that she will get a huge pay day when she fight Rousey which is what people want to see. Fighting these scrubs for a much smaller pot and accidently getting injured will deflate all the hype for the big pay day fight and earn her less then sitting waiting and getting a big pay day.
Are a few stitches in her lip really surgery? They used a plastic surgeon so to minimize the scar and speed healing. If she is clear of a concussion she would be physically good to go in like a month.
rokkerkory
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Interesting, this sounds a bit wacko then. All in an attempt to make $$$ i bet.
ldcommando
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You should read more mma foruns. People talk about male fighters getting fat between fights all the time usually with very harsh comments.
You don't get cankles from face surgery.
Super Nothing
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And Rampage. And Rumble.
OpinionatedCyborg
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Meanwhile, Ronda's recovering from facial surgery, getting fat, and feeling sorry for herself.
Combat sports athlete gains weight between camps. News at 11.
FinalStageBoss
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Is that enough time for Ronda? I feel she's going to get smashed again. Especially if she doesn't get rid of those yes men.
Latvian Hitman
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You're right. Nobody ever comments on male fighters blowing up between camps.
You guys can act butthurt all you want. Whatever you do, don't take your PC goggles off and look at the main point of my original post, which was that Ronda is a self-admitted wreck right now, and Holly isn't. The UFC carving the rematch in stone 8 months before it happens is basically giving Holly a big head start between now and when their official training camps fire up late next spring.
Sir_Crocodile
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Happens in Boxing too.
The amount of stick Ricky Hatton got was insane, people were calling him ricky "fatton".
I think his career may have gone a bit different if he had managed to keep in shape off-match.
Anton Sugar
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I don't give a fuck about Rousey or her honor. I think she has some repugnant views and got what was coming to her, given how arrogant she was.
It's a stupid thing to bring up a few weeks after a big fight, when she might not be fighting for almost a year, especially since she's not that big. I don't dump on bodybuilders in their off-season, and while this is clearly not the same situation, it's not like she's letting herself go.
You're right. Nobody ever comments on male fighters blowing up between camps.
You guys can act butthurt all you want. Whatever you do, don't take your PC goggles off and look at the main point of my original post, which was that Ronda is a self-admitted wreck right now, and Holly isn't. The UFC carving the rematch in stone 8 months before it happens is basically giving Holly a big head start between now and when their official training camps fire up late next spring.
This kinda proves the point, though. She's between fights--a LONG way between fights, or even camp. Keep pushing the butthurt PC angle, though.
Man, even when she's lost, Dana White still acts like she's the most important person in the UFC, and will put the Champion on hold until his broken angel is mended and ready to go (or maybe not).
I know, I know. It's good business. It'll sell a lot. Still sucks that Holm has to sit around waiting for Ronda to heal up when there are plenty of other fights that could be had.
I know, I know. It's good business. It'll sell a lot. Still sucks that Holm has to sit around waiting for Ronda to heal up when there are plenty of other fights that could be had.
I bet if you ask Holly, who already stated numerous times she likes to keep active because first and foremost she's a fighter, that she would like to fight in February and then that leaves her enough time to rematch in July if Ronda is able to meet that challenge. Strike while the iron is hot. A Tate/Holly matchup will make you a lot of money in the interim.
Sometimes you have to take a "risk" (I don't see Tate/Holly being that much of a risk in terms of Holly losing the championship or being injured and sidelines past UFC 200). You know who's more at risk of missing UFC 200? Ronda.
Super Nothing
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It's actually best for Holm as well. If she takes a fight with Miesha and loses or gets injured, then there goes her UFC 200 pay day. UFC 200 will likely be the biggest pay day of her career. The UFC doesn't want to risk something going wrong between now and then, and neither should she.
Holly's getting older which means she needs more time to recover from fights. Doing two training camps and fighting Tate between now and July is a huge risk. Just look at the number of main events that have been scrapped in the last few years due to fighters getting injured while training.
Epsilon-delta
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Sir_Crocodile
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Is Punk at 200?
There would be hilarious amounts of salt if that was where he got his first fight
hahahaha
I totally forgot about nas man. bit nasty to be going in on him 15 years later though.
There would be hilarious amounts of salt if that was where he got his first fight
hahahaha
I totally forgot about nas man. bit nasty to be going in on him 15 years later though.
BronsonLee
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Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on there. Lolling at Fat BJ and Fat Chuck during weigh ins is one thing, but I don't think Rousey is medically cleared to run on a treadmill, much less get back to normal training right now.
excelsiorlef
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Still nowhere near the draw of Rousey vs Holm II. The revenge vs solidification narrative is too good to put at risk.
She doesn't even look that bad IMO, whereas the guys in the pictures posted are CLEARLY out of shape
She just looks like a normal person
Latvian Hitman
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There are two separate issues here. I had a couple of posters (not you) try to tell me that I wouldn't post such a thing about a male fighter when, in fact, that's happens all the time. And in Hendrick's case, it's been well publicized and has affected him inside the cage. That's the first issue, and the one I was making the PC comment about.
As for your comment above, you're still fixating on the fact that I brought up her weight while ignoring the totality of my point. Ronda's not in a good place right now, mentally or physically. Even though we're months and months away from the start of their respective camps, Holly can train at Jackson's MMA between now and then. She can continue to sharpen up on her grappling and the coaches can start helping her focus on what she needs to do to be successful in a rematch. Meanwhile Ronda can't really do much of anything. I happen to think that's an advantage. Maybe I'm wrong. Am I really making no sense? Just tell me. I can stomach it, if not.
BronsonLee
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Yeah, that was me, and you wouldn't do that to someone right off a fight, guaranteed, unless you're just a total garbage heap of a person
Hell, the only reason we even see photos of her right now is because she's Rousey and isn't in shape, don't get it twisted
It's clearly not enough time. Ronda is 3-6 months away from taking contact much less being able to work on the things she needs to in order to overcome Holly. An immediate rematch heavily favors Holm IMO.
This was the guy I was going to bring up actually in refute to that comment.
Ricky got mocked constantly. Not a gender thing.
Anton Sugar
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I agree completely that she is a wreck, mentally and physically. I just don't agree that she's "getting fat" at this point. Looks like she's just softer than normal.
Again, I'm not coming to Rousey's rescue. I skipped that bandwagon and I think she lost in a way fitting for the way she was acting. Saying she's getting fat just seemed like an overkill/dumping on her kinda comment that wasn't really relevant. If she continues gaining weight? Yeah, that's an issue, I agree.
Latvian Hitman
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We're seeing pictures of her because she's Ronda Rousey and she just got KOed after Zuffa spent years telling everyone who would listen that she was a once in a lifetime talent. The thirst would be real regardless of what kind of shape she was in.
BURNING SPIRIT
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When you are KOd stiff you need time to recover or your easier to get kod again. Whenever someone comes back after getting kod we see them getting dropped more and kod more most of the time and that's the reason. Some say you really shouldn't even spar until you've had more than a year to recover.
Lol you post Hendricks when he's the most made fun of fatty in mma. DC also caught plenty of shit.
SolidSnakex
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ESPN just posted a video where they mention that after the fight even Rousey's camp was questioning whether her next fight should be against Holly. They seem to even notice the gap between the two.
As far as the layoff for Holly goes, it's understandable from UFC's standpoint. If Holly fights and loses, then the winner of that isn't going to be nearly as big a draw for the Rousey fight at UFC 200. Especially since Holly's camp apparently mentioned finding Miesha, who Rousey's already beat once. And if Rousey fights someone else before then and loses, then that's pretty much it for her as far as being a big draw. So this is really their only option.
As far as the layoff for Holly goes, it's understandable from UFC's standpoint. If Holly fights and loses, then the winner of that isn't going to be nearly as big a draw for the Rousey fight at UFC 200. Especially since Holly's camp apparently mentioned finding Miesha, who Rousey's already beat once. And if Rousey fights someone else before then and loses, then that's pretty much it for her as far as being a big draw. So this is really their only option.
Super Nothing
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Ronda already beat Miesha twice. That's why Miesha was promised a title shot against Ronda, but then Holm got the fight instead. Nobody wants Ronda vs. Miesha 3 except for Miesha.
Epsilon-delta
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Naseem never took training seriously as evidenced of him being overweight at the end of his training camp in preparation for Barrera.
This was him 8 weeks before the historic fight:
Most boxing fans were predicting him to lose (and lose badly) in the matchup because Naseem let himself go before the biggest fight of his career, against the most dangerous opponent he has ever faced.
ToyMachine228
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I'm perfectly fine with Ronda getting some time off before the rematch, which makes sense. But they should let Holly defend her title against someone else in the mean time.
BronsonLee
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Eh, beyond Holm vs Rousey II, Tate vs Rousey III is probably the biggest match they could put together right now.
You're right. Nobody ever comments on male fighters blowing up between camps.
You guys can act butthurt all you want. Whatever you do, don't take your PC goggles off and look at the main point of my original post, which was that Ronda is a self-admitted wreck right now, and Holly isn't. The UFC carving the rematch in stone 8 months before it happens is basically giving Holly a big head start between now and when their official training camps fire up late next spring.
that cormier pic is gold lol
TheKaeptain
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Body shaming and prize fighting go hand in hand.
Ehh she was gonna retire soon anyway.
If anything this may have extended her career another 3-4 fights.
Spinning Plates
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I can already foresee uproar if the rematch goes to the judges scorecards.
I said in another post concussion is the issue but if she is clear of that she will be physically good to go in a month. I haven't heard anything about concussion symptoms, just a lot about her "broken jaw" and "facial surgery". On that front she got some stitches and lose teeth, if she is a fighter that is nothing.
I hate how boxing's fighter-centric structure denies us great matchups, but this kind of garbage is the counterpoint to that. How is this good for Holm, at 34, a new champion, to have to rematch a woman that she beat soundly, rather than to get an additional title defense in and increase her profile (as well as her earnings!)? This is good for one party only- the UFC. It's not good for Rousey either, because if she loses again to Holm her MMA career is over.
Holm will likely get some endorsements with her newfound fame, and since fighters cannot endorse products (except Reebok) at official UFC events, her endorsement money shouldn't be significantly impacted by not fighting.
But the honest answer is, "they don't". Holm made $30,000 from Reebok for KO'ing Rousey, for instance. A fight that broke 1m PPV buys. Her total disclosed purse was $180k.
Holm will likely get some endorsements with her newfound fame, and since fighters cannot endorse products (except Reebok) at official UFC events, her endorsement money shouldn't be significantly impacted by not fighting.
But the honest answer is, "they don't". Holm made $30,000 from Reebok for KO'ing Rousey, for instance. A fight that broke 1m PPV buys. Her total disclosed purse was $180k.
lol, guess you never been around sports people.
This sucks for Holly, she deserves to get payed, not wait who knows how long until Ronda is back, if she will be back at all.
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