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[supermackem]

What happend to the lib dem, wasnt the buzz in the media that they were going to do better this time or have they i havent been following it as much as some on this thread have.:lol

 

[Keyser Soze]

Quick, wind up Dimbleby when no one is watching

 

[Acheteedo]

You see a Lib-Lab coalition would represent the majority of the country, a 37% Conservative minority government would not. Its not disgusting, Tories failed to reach the finish flag, its just how it goes. The people don't have confidence in Tories enough to run the country.

People didn't vote for Lib-Lab, they voted for Lib OR Lab. The tories should be the ones making coalitions.

 

[Mr. Sam]

People aren't suggesting that a lib-lab coalition could happen are they? Personally I don't want the tories to have any form of power, but a lib-lab coalition would be disgusting, you can't just ignore the party with the most votes.

If they had more votes together, they very much could.

 

[Kowak]

Robinson tries to get back in Mandys favour by calling for him to be PM

 

[industrian]

Mandleson: "You're a funny man, Nick, I like you. That's why I'm going to kill you last."

 

[Xavien]

I don't think he needs to form an actual coalition, just get the support of parliament. The deal doesn't necessarily have to include inclusion in the government, so long as they vote with the government on confidence bills.

(note: I'm not British, but I am Canadian, and our system is essentially your system. Also note that we just went through a similar situation, and the public outcry against a coalition of the 'losers'/left was massive, incredible, and well organized. Don't be surprised if the same happens there, even if it seems in everyone's best interests)

If labour cant actually form a coalition then it falls to the Tories since they have more seats, basically Brown gets first whack, if he cant do it, Tories get second whack, if Tories cant do it themselves, they can try to run a Minority government because they have more seats than any other party.

Nick Robinson will be found face down in a ditch in the North of England tomorrow. Mandleson hath spoken.

Wouldn't you be in favour of that though?

 

[Dambrosi]

Holy shit that sounds like a good thing, am I wrong?

It's quite good, yes, which is why I'm rooting for it.

 

[industrian]

People didn't vote for Lib-Lab, they voted for Lib OR Lab. The tories should be the ones making coalitions.

I take it you're new to politics.

 

[Acheteedo]

I take it you're new to politics.

How did you guess ^_^

 

[Jonnyram]

Outside of London, nearly all major cities/conurbations are Lab/Lib Dem (Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle, Hull, York, Nottingham, Derby, Norwich, Cambridge, Luton etc.). Even London looks to be 50/50. Only the fucking suburbs are safe Tory seats.

 

[Parl]

People aren't suggesting that a lib-lab coalition could happen are they? Personally I don't want the tories to have any form of power, but a lib-lab coalition would be disgusting, you can't just ignore the party with the most votes.

Also this election was defined by anti-voting, massive tory gains from people wanting Labour out, and a massive shift away from Lib dem poll results - tactical voting for Labour from people who don't want the Conservative in. It's a mess.

An even bigger point is you can't ignore a coalition that has hugely more votes. It's an outrage that a government can be formed on so few votes. At least a Lib/Lab coalition will have just over 50% of the popular vote.

 

[industrian]

30 minutes left at work. Man, it's been a long day. :lol I'm tired as fuck for a guy who's done absolutely nothing except watch the election results.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Fiona Bruce has regenerated

 

[Acheteedo]

An even bigger point is you can't ignore a coalition that has hugely more votes. It's an outrage that a government can be formed on so few votes. At least a Lib/Lab coalition will have just over 50% of the popular vote.

Con-lib is what I'm driving at, not conservative alone.

 

[Xavien]

People didn't vote for Lib-Lab, they voted for Lib OR Lab. The tories should be the ones making coalitions.

If you cant make it to the finish post then it falls to the incumbent PM, its nothing to do with Labours result "this" election, its because Brown is the PM and leader of the Labour Party which won last time.

Con-lib is what I'm driving at, not conservative alone.

Why not Con-Lab? that would have the biggest share of the vote? hell why not a Con-Lab-LibDem coalition? oh wait that wouldn't work and nothing would get done... welcome to a Con-LD coalition.

 

[Kowak]

30 minutes left at work. Man, it's been a long day. :lol I'm tired as fuck for a guy who's done absolutely nothing except watch the election results.

i am so tired i wont tell you what i read the first time around. spelling mistakes and blurred vision on the rise.

 

[scotcheggz]

I like this ladies eyelashes.

So, what would be everyones ideal outcome now? I think its still quite interesting and exciting.

 

[phisheep]

People aren't suggesting that a lib-lab coalition could happen are they? Personally I don't want the tories to have any form of power, but a lib-lab coalition would be disgusting, you can't just ignore the party with the most votes.

Also this election was defined by anti-voting, massive tory gains from people wanting Labour out, and a massive shift away from Lib dem poll results - tactical voting for Labour from people who don't want the Conservative in. It's a mess.

Trouble is, a Lib/Lab coalition still wouldn't be big enough to have a majority.

Only possibility for strong and stable government is Lib/Con

 

[Kowak]

WTF Kate Silverton got relegated to jacqui smith duty. didnt see enough of her.

 

[Varion]

I like this ladies eyelashes.

So, what would be everyones ideal outcome now? I think its still quite interesting and exciting.

Same as it was at the start of the night really, enough seats for a Lib Dem - Labour coalition followed by electoral reform.

It's very tight, but it's still just about possible

 

[brain_stew]

Con-lib is what I'm driving at, not conservative alone.

They're policies and ideologies are completely different. It'd be totally unworkable. The majority of the UK voted for left leaning parties, seems fair enough if they govern to me.

 

[Xavien]

Trouble is, a Lib/Lab coalition still wouldn't be big enough to have a majority.

Only possibility for strong and stable government is Lib/Con

Stable yes, Strong no.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Enough with the graphs, announce the games dammit!!

 

[Dambrosi]

Con-lib is what I'm driving at, not conservative alone.

Aaaaaahahahahahaha. Ha. You really ARE new to this, aren't you?

And we're back to level pegging! 286-236-50!

Edit: Now it's 286-236-51!!! WOOOOOOOOO!!!1!1!!1!

 

[industrian]

Fiona Bruce has regenerated

I'd take her to a polling station.

Con-lib is what I'm driving at, not conservative alone.

 

[Kowak]

a labour gain??????????

EDIT:CORRECTION

LD hold

rubbing salt in to labours wounds bbc:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Varion]

I'm genuinely interested to hear why anyone thinks there's a chance of a Lib Dem + Conservative coalition. They're just so different to each other in pretty much every policy area the only motivation I can think of for one is MPs being really scared of calling another election so soon and really pissing the public off.

 

[brain_stew]

I like this ladies eyelashes.

So, what would be everyones ideal outcome now? I think its still quite interesting and exciting.

Brown gives Clegg an offer he can't refuse. STV + Cable as chancellor and a job for Clegg and a couple more of his best mates in the cabinet.

 

[Jex]

If Lab/Lib were equal to Con then each side would have to compromise somewhat over legislation and things would be very odd.

 

[industrian]

50 seats left.

The Tories need 40. Not happening.

 

[phisheep]

Stable yes, Strong no.

Depends on the deal.

Potentially it could be one of the great reorming governments to compare with the liberals of the 1830s - but a lot of compromise needed to reach such a deal. Not necessarily bad compromise either.

 

[Kowak]

I'm genuinely interested to hear why anyone thinks there's a chance of a Lib Dem + Conservative coalition. They're just so different to each other in pretty much every policy area the only motivation I can think of for one is MPs being really scared of calling another election so soon and really pissing the public off.

there wont be a coalition, merely liberals agreeing to allow the tories to govern for a year or so.

 

[Dambrosi]

An Independent gain?! Interesting...

there wont be a coalition, merely liberals agreeing to allow the tories to govern for a year or so.

And what on earth could they achieve in a mere year, other than gutting our public services, institutions and the poor? You must really hate the Beeb :lol

 

[Xavien]

Depends on the deal.

Potentially it could be one of the great reorming governments to compare with the liberals of the 1830s - but a lot of compromise needed to reach such a deal. Not necessarily bad compromise either.

You think Tories would compromise to the LD?

Tories and LibDems are on opposite sides of the spectrum, they'd have to compromise on nearly every policy to make it work, something i don't think Tories will go for.

 

[Jex]

Someone's going to have to compromise, which will at least make for a change. No idea who though - I imagine lots of very tired people are trying to call each other right now and work this stuff out.

 

[Oxx]

Tories won back my constituency for the first time since before 1997. I guess we couldn't stay an independent stronghold forever.

 

[brain_stew]

I'm genuinely interested to hear why anyone thinks there's a chance of a Lib Dem + Conservative coalition. They're just so different to each other in pretty much every policy area the only motivation I can think of for one is MPs being really scared of calling another election so soon and really pissing the public off.

Well unlike the Tories, the LDs aren't exactly flush with cash. Chances are they flat out couldn't afford to run another election campaign right now.

 

[Jonnyram]

Tories need 40/49 for a majority.
At least that looks like it's not happening *phew*

 

[Keyser Soze]

Hung parliament approaching, clear the area
Hung parliament approaching, clear the area
Hung parliament approaching, clear the area

 

[industrian]

The final Scottish seat (Argyll and Bute) is scheduled to be called at 12:30 GMT. In all probability it's a safe Liberal Democrat seat. There's the possibility that the Tories may sneak in. I'm praying for LD or SNP.

 

[brain_stew]

Queen activation is back on the table.

 

[Keyser Soze]

The Queen has reserve power :lol

She can only be activated via a backup generator!!

 

[scotcheggz]

Even though the tories have the most seats right now, I think its nice to know that even with all the money and media ramped behind Cameron, arguably the most acceptable tory leader for a generation, the public still arent keen on voting them in.

Its a small comfort.

 

[brain_stew]

The final Scottish seat (Argyll and Bute) is scheduled to be called at 12:30 GMT. In all probability it's a safe Liberal Democrat seat. There's the possibility that the Tories may sneak in. I'm praying for LD or SNP.

The Tories have proven a disaster in Scotland so far, we should be OK.

 

[Acheteedo]

Aaaaaahahahahahaha. Ha. You really ARE new to this, aren't you?

YES. fuck's sake.

 

[industrian]

A theoretical Labour/LD Coalition would now have more seats and more votes than the Conservatives.

 

[killer_clank]

Why are some seats so slow? It's getting fucking ridiculous now.

 

[Kowak]

has Emily sat down tonight???

 

[industrian]

The Tories have proven a disaster in Scotland so far, we should be OK.

I always think of the worst case scenario, it softens the blow just incase it happens.