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UK PoliGAF: General election thread of LibCon Coalitionage

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mckmas8808

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Xavien said:
I think he's happy because he loves doing this, he really loves politics especially when there's "chaos and confusion". He's really just there for the ride :D
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This Dimbleby guy sounds like the British verison of Chris Matthews in the States. :lol
 
louis89

louis89

Member
I wake up and turn my TV straight on expecting to see the result displayed all over my screen and... 43 seats left to declare? How long does it take? =/

Also, holy shit the Lib Dems must be so disappointed
 
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Varion

Member
The illusion is well and truly dropped now by Hain :lol

Yes, we do agree. Come on Cleggy, you know you're up for it!
 
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Xavien

Member
Finally! Hain has said exactly what we thought they would do in the first place.

Jexhius said:
It's gonna be a longgg day/week/whatever
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It'll probably be in the order of weeks even months.
 
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maharg

idspispopd
If you look at how the parties are represented so far, you can see which ones might see the benefit to electoral reform:

Code: 
PTY POPV%   SEAT%
Con 36.2% v 47.35%
Lab 29.0% v 39.76%
[b]LD  22.9% v  8.41%[/b]
DUP  0.6% v  1.32%
[b]SNP  1.7% v  0.99%[/b]
SF   0.5% v  0.66%
PC   0.6% v  0.50%
SDL  0.4% v  0.50%
[b]Grn  0.9% v  0.17%[/b]

An electoral reform coalition can only really work if those plus Labour (who's interest would mostly be keeping power long enough more to have another go when this falls apart) amount to a real majority. The other parties just don't have any real reason to do it. I dunno enough about your parties to know if those parties could even get along long enough to do it, though.

The conservatives would be immensely stupid to make a coalition on this premise, though. They're much better off staying out in case it doesn't work out, so they can pick up seats if it does. If it does work out, the worst case scenario is they keep their top position in the new parliament most likely.
 
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gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Wow, Hain sounded like he was already getting a 'second campaign' started, now for this progressive partnership.
 
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dakster

Neo Member
Love this constantly from labour " this is the wishes off the people...........erm we'll try and form a coalition government at any cost and with anyone "

Lets just forget that the people have clearly spoken that they wanted you lot out!
 
scotcheggz

scotcheggz

Member
Right, thats about as much as I can do.. gonna go and nap for 30 minutes before I go to work

Night guys, I feel bad dimbleby outdone me :lol
 
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gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Clegg doesn't want to be filmed, cos he's got to take off his Lib Dem mask to reveal his 'Labour Supporter' real-face by the time he gets to London.
 
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Xavien

Member
dakster said:
Love this constantly from labour " this is the wishes off the people...........erm we'll try and form a coalition government at any cost and with anyone "

Lets just forget that the people have clearly spoken that they wanted you lot out!
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Actually the people have spoken that they don't want any specific party in.
 
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brain_stew

Member
maharg said:
If you look at how the parties are represented so far, you can see which ones might see the benefit to electoral reform:

Code: 
PTY POPV%   SEAT%
Con 36.2% v 47.35%
Lab 29.0% v 39.76%
[b]LD  22.9% v  8.41%[/b]
DUP  0.6% v  1.32%
[b]SNP  1.7% v  0.99%[/b]
SF   0.5% v  0.66%
PC   0.6% v  0.50%
SDL  0.4% v  0.50%
[b]Grn  0.9% v  0.17%[/b]

An electoral reform coalition can only really work if those plus Labour (who's interest would mostly be keeping power long enough more to have another go when this falls apart) amount to a real majority. The other parties just don't have any real reason to do it. I dunno enough about your parties to know if those parties could even get along long enough to do it, though.
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The other parties like the nationalists would join a coalition in exchange for things other than political reform. Like lower funding cuts in Scotland/Wales etc.

The Tories would never offer electoral reform, it'll be the death of them and they know it.
 
J

James-Ape

show some balls, man
I like this quote on the BBC

Conservative Theresa May says: "I find it slightly strange that, at a time when we're facing such severe economic problems in this country, when there are so many other problems in our society that we need to resolve, that the one issue that seems to be the key for the Liberal Democrats is indeed electoral reform."

Is it so strange that a party who gets 22% of the vote and only 8% of the seats wants reform? maybe when your party get 36% of the votes with 47% of the seats it is :)
 
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Keyser Soze

Member
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Orgun

Member
God I hate our voting system; Labour & Lib Dem have a similar number of votes and yet the number of seat difference is vastly difference. /sigh
 
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dakster

Neo Member
Xavien said:
Actually the people have spoken that they don't want any specific party in.
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I never said they did. What I'm saying is that the labour government is that desperate to hold onto the keys to number ten. That it appears that they will entertain anyone to keep said keys.

They are on course for the worst election result for them in years. By any stretch, they have had a fucking disaster, whilst the conservatives have had the best for them in over eighty years.
 
Jex

Jex

Member
I think the people have spoken, and they have said "Ehhh, we don't know who we want." Labour should have lost way more then they did, considering that they've been in power for ages and the economy is in the shitter.
 
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Xavien

Member
dakster said:
I never said they did. What I'm saying is that the labour government is that desperate to hold onto the keys to number ten. That it appears that they will entertain anyone to keep said keys.

They are on course for the worst election result for them in years. By any stretch, they have had a fucking disaster, whilst the conservatives have had the best for them in over eighty years.
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er no, Tories have gained the most seats in the past 80 years in a single election not the actual best election result, unfortunately its not enough to get to that wonderful finish post of a overall majority. If anything it shows how shitty the Conservatives have been over the past 13 years.
 
Acheteedo

Acheteedo

Member
maharg said:
Code: 
PTY POPV%   SEAT%
Con 36.2% v 47.35%
Lab 29.0% v 39.76%
[b]LD  22.9% v  8.41%[/b]
DUP  0.6% v  1.32%
[b]SNP  1.7% v  0.99%[/b]
SF   0.5% v  0.66%
PC   0.6% v  0.50%
SDL  0.4% v  0.50%
[b]Grn  0.9% v  0.17%[/b]
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Where's that info from? Curious about BNP.

edit - never mind, found it.
 
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brain_stew

Member
Xavien said:
er no, Tories have gained the most seats in the past 80 years in a single election not the actual best election result, unfortunately its not enough to get to that wonderful finish post of a overall majority. If anything it shows how shitty the Conservatives have been over the past 13 years.
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Or what an incredible party leader Tony Blair was.
 
B

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
Well woke up with my Internet (well it seemed to be a phoneline problem) working and in a Labour constituency. 5.3% swing towards the Lib Dems but it was not enough.
 
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OMG Aero

Member
So as someone who knows nothing about hung parliaments, is it pretty much decided that Cameron will be the prime minister now or can Labour and the Lib dems join together because that would give them more seats then the Tories?
 
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operon

Member
OMG Aero said:
So as someone who knows nothing about hung parliaments, is it pretty much decided that Cameron will be the prime minister now or can Labour and the Lib dems join together because that would give them more seats then the Tories?
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Unless brown can't form a government and then resigns Cameron can't do anything til then
 
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Varion

Member
OMG Aero said:
So as someone who knows nothing about hung parliaments, is it pretty much decided that Cameron will be the prime minister now or can Labour and the Lib dems join together because that would give them more seats then the Tories?
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It's not decided, no. Depends on who gets what seats out of the remainder, but unless there's a clear majority electoral law says that Brown, as the current PM, gets first dibs at trying to make a coalition. If he fails, Cameron gets a go, or can try and make a minority government.
 
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