J Tourettes
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Asian has been traditionally used in the UK for Pakistan, India etc. Being from the UK, don't you know this already?
Edit: Beaten by Dave and Murkas.
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UK/R.O.I GAF - Thread of geopolitical confusion
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Asian has been traditionally used in the UK for Pakistan, India etc. Being from the UK, don't you know this already?
Edit: Beaten by Dave and Murkas.
Our muslims skew more conservative than elsewhere in Europe.
The Guardian said:
Dunno why. That study is two years old but there are plenty more out there.
I like to be literal. And oddly enough the Americans are the opposite and use Asian to describe those from the far east. This also is reflected in our newsagent stereotype. We always use Indian shopkeepers, they seem to use Koreans*
Shame I missed my chance to send request for J/K-pop songs to the BBC Asian network.
*Apu is an exception.
Shame I missed my chance to send request for J/K-pop songs to the BBC Asian network.
*Apu is an exception.
RibbedHero
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That survey must definitely not include Hindus, Sikhs and other non-Islamic religions from the subcontinent. That figure is highly inflated, being half Asian I have plenty of anecdotal evidence, and that survey reeks of exaggeration and xenophobia.
Yessir: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian
Yessir: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian
J Tourettes
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Yes.
I guess I'm just lucky with the ones I've met.
Looks like one in 5 according to this article.
One thing that chilled me in that article....
This mirrors conversations I had with the aforementioned convert. She insisted that this shit happens a lot and that our police can't / won't touch it. I thought she was paranoid and brainwashed at the time.
It also seems that the first white victim honour killing was newsworthy. Don't normally see ethnicity front & centre like that.
One thing that chilled me in that article....
This mirrors conversations I had with the aforementioned convert. She insisted that this shit happens a lot and that our police can't / won't touch it. I thought she was paranoid and brainwashed at the time.
It also seems that the first white victim honour killing was newsworthy. Don't normally see ethnicity front & centre like that.
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will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
That's how my parents explained it to me when I was a kid.
People from western Asia are Asians, people from eastern Asia are Orientals.
For some reason Americans find the latter offensive, it irks me that they do..
We just have to accept that GAF has a large American population and watch our language.
Almost got in trouble for this post:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32865151&postcount=46
RibbedHero
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Clever play on words? "Nip" and "Nippon". I don't know what's offensive about that post.
'Nip' is a slur for a Japanese person.
It shows how heavy America is on this stuff, I was going to type 'Nip is a slur for Jap' and then I remembered that is considered racist too. Yet we shorten 'British / Britain' to 'Brit' without a second thought. Language is crazy.
zomgbbqftw
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I really wish people would stop using the catch-all term "Asian" for things that Muslims do. It gives us Indians a bad name. That paedophile group in Bradford was all Muslim, but no, on the news they were "Asian", these honour killings are perpetrated by Muslims, but no, ont eh TV programme last night it's "Asians" that do it.
I don't think the BBC want their HQ burning down so I wouldn't expect them to get specific any day soon.
Honour killings and threats happen in the Indian community too. That women in the beginning of the programme was Sikh. And there was the picture of Geetah something which sounds like a non-Muslim name..
lol that was hilarious.
To be fair it's considered bad form to shorten Pakistani so we can be just as bad.
Tis true. I 'get it', it's all about the context behind the word, supposedly. Thing is, when a word becomes unacceptable under any context, that doesn't really hold up. Funny thing is, it's another of those words that is perfectly acceptable if you're a member of that community.
I always wonder where the spark of offense is born. I mean, 'Brit' has some serious negative connotations (predominantly based on Colonial times) and yet, I'd never dream of getting seriously offended. I joke (kinda) about being English and not British, but there's no real, actual offence behind it. I'm not even that bothered that we're widely held accountable for all sorts of shit that took place long before we walked on this soil.
What is it that causes offence, I wonder?
Spending too long nestled on your mother's teats, I'd wager.
americans still wonder why they have to pretend to be Canadian when they travel outside the us.
shanshan310
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If Indian people are called Asian in the UK, what are East Asian people called?
Yeah, I didn't realise those words were slurs for a long time either. In fact, our Japanese society at uni was called "Jap Soc" up until a couple of years ago when one of the lecturers found it offensive. You still hear people say stuff like "Jap class", like they would say "Indo class" for Indonesian. Its not offensive, its just shortening the word. No negative racial connotations to it here. Makes me cringe a little now that I know what it means though. Reminds me of when my boyfriend first heard the word gook he thought it just meant idiot, and that it was fun to say =/ He's Korean by blood too...
Yeah, I didn't realise those words were slurs for a long time either. In fact, our Japanese society at uni was called "Jap Soc" up until a couple of years ago when one of the lecturers found it offensive. You still hear people say stuff like "Jap class", like they would say "Indo class" for Indonesian. Its not offensive, its just shortening the word. No negative racial connotations to it here. Makes me cringe a little now that I know what it means though. Reminds me of when my boyfriend first heard the word gook he thought it just meant idiot, and that it was fun to say =/ He's Korean by blood too...
"Yank" is the single ugliest word I can think of. Just the noise of it - ugh. It really grates for me.
I appreciate the point - that using the catch-all term "Asian" is damaging - but Indians and Muslims aren't mutually exclusive, are they? My knowledge of the subject is woefully inadequate.
I appreciate the point - that using the catch-all term "Asian" is damaging - but Indians and Muslims aren't mutually exclusive, are they? My knowledge of the subject is woefully inadequate.
Hinduism is the largest religion in India by quite a way. I've never associated India with Islam.
By the way, is your username a reference to the Belgian trance producer?
snoopeasystreet
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I can't think of anything.
lol
Actually, I understand perfectly why you say this, but I bet the reason they used the term 'Asian' instead of 'Muslim' was for the same reason you hate them using the catch-all term 'Asian'.
Muslims would complain if they did that.
FreeMufasa
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Mate that's not even comparable to use of terms like Paki. Like you said, outside of the 'English/Scot/etc before British' context, I doubt there's a single person that'd get offended by Brit. Makes sense, Brit's never been used to make a group feel like 'the other'.
I appreciate that Hinduism is the largest religion, but one of my Muslim friends actually comes from India. It just seemed off to me to say "Don't blame that on X nationality - it's X religion that's to blame" as if they're entirely separate entities.
Nope, afraid not. I thought he was French anyway. Sam's a unisex name and I wanted people to know I was male.
I've always wondered why the Americans refer to Japan as the Far East rather than the Close West.
shanshan310
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They probably just took it from the UK. 
We call it "the East" as well, despite it being directly north.
Ah okay. Its weird we don't really use Oriental in Australia except when referring to food.
I try not to refer to people by countries. Even for Pakistani or Nepalese I don't use Indian.
We call it "the East" as well, despite it being directly north.Ah okay. Its weird we don't really use Oriental in Australia except when referring to food.
I try not to refer to people by countries. Even for Pakistani or Nepalese I don't use Indian.
Woah. I'm going to need to muse on this for a while.
As soon as you consider someone to be different you've already lost. Then you get bogged down in the semantics of what to call this different thing, what's an acceptable word to use on this foreign object. It's fine trying to create an inoffensive term, or definition, but the distinction has already been made and the damage has been done; a word is going to make no difference to the thought-process that's already happened in your head.
blahblah...blah
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I've always used Asian to refer to Chinese, Japanese, etc. This is the problem with having a continent that spans a number of very distinctive ethnic groups - makes it confusing for us Westerners
EDIT: Although, now I think about it, I kind of do just use it for anyone from a country in Asia.
EDIT: Although, now I think about it, I kind of do just use it for anyone from a country in Asia.
Actually, on the subject of racist words and slurs, I find Reginald D. Hunter's view on it quite interesting. He describes racism in the UK as 'soft racism'. I suppose what he means is in contrast to the sort of racism that has occurred in the US over the years..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWJMpDWGSR8
And he does have a good idea of what it is like in the UK because he has lived here for many years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWJMpDWGSR8
And he does have a good idea of what it is like in the UK because he has lived here for many years.
So who's your waifu?
thanks for that, this is the statistic that is worrying.
it's worrying that that upcoming generation think like this and it's just as worrying that no politician or those in power refuse to act on this before it becomes a major problem.
muslim paedophile gang. do you have more information on this.
and you're factually wrong. honor attacks and killings aren't exclusive to the muslim community. they are also prevalent throughout the indian, sikh communities.
J Tourettes
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You're in Nottingham, aren't you? Are you going to see Froch - Bute?
Nah, I'm not that big on boxing. Might hang around harassing 'away fans' though, Notts will be insane that night.
I think one of my ex girlfriends fucked Froch. Just as an aside.
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