It's not the worst thing in the world to go after a young demo but there are shows which can do that without sacrificing the writing quality. I hope Dini leaves the two shows if he hates working on them. Someone on comicbookmovie was saying how the facebook accounts for Loeb and Man of Action are getting bombarded with negative comments. I hope some one at Marvel Animation is paying attention.
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Ultimate Spider-man Season One |OT|: Because Being "Spectacular" is just not enough.
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It's not the worst thing in the world to go after a young demo but there are shows which can do that without sacrificing the writing quality. I hope Dini leaves the two shows if he hates working on them. Someone on comicbookmovie was saying how the facebook accounts for Loeb and Man of Action are getting bombarded with negative comments. I hope some one at Marvel Animation is paying attention.
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Oh wow, the Venom ep was bad. Like, really, really bad. I'm really close to give up on this show :/
crimsonspider89
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The Thor show was good. Character development, great action sequences. NOT SO MANY DAMN CUT AWAYS!
and if the rumors are true of Earth's Mightiest Heroes demise in favor of an Ultimates (Avengers) cartoon in the same style and universe. . . you better get used to it :|
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Good god; Leob's rationalization for canning EMH sounds really out of touch. Everywhere I look, people are responding positively to better, deeper western dramatic cartoons that have arcs and long game scripting. In fact that's the direction most of the dramatic animated shows are going.
Razgriz-Specter
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he is the man of spiders!
Just look at Young Justice im surprised they attempt half the stuff they do with almost no fear for the young viewers.
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I might have seen a different episode then, mine was full of cutaways, featured thor turned into a disney parody frog (yes, I know what's this supposed to reference), thousands of unfunny, repeating jokes, a stupid Loki, close to none character development and uru for everyone.
Funnily enough, EMH's episode this month shows how to make a Thor episode right. Even featured the dwarf and everything :/
Man, what a disappointing read. It's bad enough that this show is currently so lackluster, but I hoped that it might improve in the future after listening to some fan feedback. Doesn't sound like it.
This is so fustrating. First I get my whole family in love with Spectacular Spider-Man when it was on Disney XD, only for it to get cancelled and replaced by this mediocre show that everyone but my brother and I gave up on 3 episodes ago. Now it seems like the same thing is happening with the Avengers. Everyone loves Earth's Mightiest Heroes and it was the main reason we all went and saw the Avengers movie the first night it came to theaters. The cartoon had us pumped. But it seems it's going to get cancelled for another shallow show that will interest nobody.
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So in summary: Loeb.
ThatObviousUser
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There's still a chance Spectacular can come back, right? Right? 
Why did I let GAF get me into that show. Marathoned it and loved it and now it's dead. I can't even watch this show after having read all the impressions.
Well, at least now I can go back to being an unabashed DC animation fanboy...
Why did I let GAF get me into that show. Marathoned it and loved it and now it's dead. I can't even watch this show after having read all the impressions.
Well, at least now I can go back to being an unabashed DC animation fanboy...
There's still a chance Spectacular can come back, right? Right?
Why did I let GAF get me into that show. Marathoned it and loved it and now it's dead. I can't even watch this show after having read all the impressions.
Well, at least now I can go back to being an unabashed DC animation fanboy...
People hated on it after the first episode. It was never gonna live up to the hype that spectacular left. The only major issue is that they ran this series so close to it instead of holding off for a few more years.
The actual lack of quality in this show doesn't help either.
Its not bad for what it is. The animation and design is better than spectaculars, but the characters are off. Cut down two douchebags, and make it spiderman and the heroes for hire, and the show becomes much better.
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So far the other characters have had very little chance to shine.
SO you say, but it is plenty fuel for my Ayala/Peter/Ariana fic.
I can't stand Peter Parker's voice, that's all. And I wish they'd spend more time focusing on the Peter Parker section of the show, since Peter's relationship to Harry and MJ has always been a big thing in Spider-Man. But otherwise, I'm enjoying the idea of Spidey touring the who's-who of Marvel. GIVE ME X-MEN.
Two spiders and a tiger? I can dig it. I wonder if spider girl wil make an appearance?
Rafa=FedKilla
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I want to see Bendis write an episode.
The episode will be one big internal monologue.
I despise the character designs, and this show has yet to truly demonstrate fluid, dynamic movement in the same way Spectacular did.
But really, this show just screams of missed potential. When I originally heard the "Ultimate" title and of Bendis' involvement, I thought we'd get a more grounded show that was a light deconstruction of the Superhero genre. Instead, I was presented with Scott Pilgrim meets the Superfriends.
So I finally got around to watching this show and....
Terrible. Just terrible.
But instead of going on and on about how great Spectacular was and how awful this is, I'm going to throw a swerve...
Any of you guys remember Spider-Man Unlimited? It only had like 7 or 8 episodes back in the 90's/early 00's, but it was one of my favorite Spidey cartoons. I loved the idea and the premise. Voice actors and story telling was great and it's a shame it didn't last long at all.
I think Pokemon was to blame for that one.
Terrible. Just terrible.
But instead of going on and on about how great Spectacular was and how awful this is, I'm going to throw a swerve...
Any of you guys remember Spider-Man Unlimited? It only had like 7 or 8 episodes back in the 90's/early 00's, but it was one of my favorite Spidey cartoons. I loved the idea and the premise. Voice actors and story telling was great and it's a shame it didn't last long at all.
I think Pokemon was to blame for that one.
Sigh. Loeb sounds like a complete fucking idiot.
Too bad the villains were a bunch of Beastmen. I still wish the design got some love in Spider-man cameos though.
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I liked that cartoon and was very confused when it ended with a cliffhanger. No internet at the time and I thought the local channel didn't want to air the new episodes. Most people don't seem to have much love for this show but I thought it was interesting at the time.
Vermillion
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Well you like this show, so
But I actually did enjoy Spider-Man Unlimited a bit. Ended on a cliffhanger, but whatever, I guess.
But I actually did enjoy Spider-Man Unlimited a bit. Ended on a cliffhanger, but whatever, I guess.
Well you like this show, so
But I actually did enjoy Spider-Man Unlimited a bit. Ended on a cliffhanger, but whatever, I guess.
Its not as bad as spec fans are claiming, but its got a bunch flaws that need to be worked out.
I'm still pissed Spectacular season 2 isn't up on NetFlix streaming. I never bothered to watch the show when it was originally on, then was bored one day a few months ago and decided to check out season 1. It was waaaay better than I had anticipated, but was bummed to find out season 2 was only available via disc. Screw that.
Vermillion
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No, I tried to watch this show for a while. Tried to ignore that Spectacular was. I wanted to put that aside because, let me be honest, I just wanted a good Spider-Man show. Six-ish episodes and... I hate this show.
Vermillion
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Spectacular's art was meant to convey Spidey's movements better. Watch the Lizard episode's fight scenes for an example.
crimsonspider89
Banned
The Venom episodes were the embodiment of all that is wrong with the series. Truth.
Why is that?
Disagree. Loved Green Goblin from Spectacular and all the venom episodes. The crazy mindtripping art in the Venom episodes in spectacular were awesome.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Bad characterization, too many cut aways, simple plot, lame dialogue.
Thor episode was bearable and had high points.
Thor episode was bearable and had high points.
I hated all the character designs in Spectacular. Only complaint from me.
They had this odd weird, round shape to them
But I forgave it because it animated so damn well.
The episode where he fights the giant Sandman.. mah heavens
Posted this information in the 'Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes' thread but I figured it pertained to this show too.
http://www.marveltvnews.com/2012/06/13/exclusive-agent-x-spills-the-bean-on-the-future-of-marvel-animation-and-did-he-just-mention-a-new-x-men-tv-series/
http://www.marveltvnews.com/2012/06/13/exclusive-agent-x-spills-the-bean-on-the-future-of-marvel-animation-and-did-he-just-mention-a-new-x-men-tv-series/
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Who is "Agent X"? Who is "Man of Action"? Why can't anyone in this business just use their fucking name?
Urban Scholar
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Wait...so...a second season but real change won't happen unless it stays for a 3rd and people continue to whine?
Man of Action is the alias of a group of comic writers consisting of: Joe Kelly, Duncan Rouleau, Joe Casey and Steven T. Seagle. Agent X I believe is someone who works in the Marvel animation department that doesn't want to make his identity known because he is leaking information like this.
No, season 2 will have some slight changes like less cut away gags and a little bit more drama. Episodes like "Venom" and "Exclusive" show that with just a little tweaking, which they are going to do in season 2, this show can be good.
Urban Scholar
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Ahh, ok then I'm all for that then.
Definitely agree there. I was turned off by Spectacular's designs back before it came on, but the animation more than made up for it. The animation in Ultimate can even begin to compare to the fight with giant Sandman or Blacksuit Spidey vs Sinister Six.
Choppasmith
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I still love Spectacular for this, but USM has had some good sequences IMHO: The first Venom fight, Batroc the Leaper, and the Taskmaster fight really impressed me.
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