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Ultra Street Fighter IV |OT| What is old is new once again
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Tesseract
Banned
i got no problems plinking those combos online or off, my ratio of success is pretty good. it's even easier now with training delay experimentation, ty basis capcomz.
hitsugi
Member
I have no issues offline with just about anything that would be considered high execution. 1 frame links, Chun Li counter-hit cl.HP fadc ultra, lightning leg loops, whatever. PSN is and has always been a bit of a nightmare for me.
Tesseract
Banned
yeah, i can attest to dem laggy psn feels. bummer ;(
360 has always been buttermilk for me. pc too before the steamworks transition, which is something bacon has said capcom is working on.
*edit* i'm writing some poopy butter sentences, apologies.
Karsticles
Member
I still get good frame advantage AFAIK.
I tend not to use meter so I have the raging demon punish. I got it off twice in my last set.
What do you use as a combo ender against characters which tatsu goes over?
Ever since smug started doing well in tournaments, the number of dudleys on ranked is absurd. Easily the most common character I've come across.
Oni gets way more mileage out of fadc combos rather than a super. A 1 frame super is definitely great but when you have access to 3 frame normals that link into big damage, I don't think its even comparable. It also comes down to the matchup but I can't think of too many moves that leave you point blank and -1. If you start incorporating meter into your combos, you should always include a crouch fierce since it forces stand which will allow you to combo into tatsu.
Oni gets way more mileage out of fadc combos rather than a super. A 1 frame super is definitely great but when you have access to 3 frame normals that link into big damage, I don't think its even comparable. It also comes down to the matchup but I can't think of too many moves that leave you point blank and -1. If you start incorporating meter into your combos, you should always include a crouch fierce since it forces stand which will allow you to combo into tatsu.
Soo...I was wrong about this. It's still an unblockable on all traditional shotos. I'm not gonna lie, I'm definitely gonna abuse it now.
Edit: Ibuki too.
Karsticles
Member
What combo with a crouching fierce do you suggest?
I've just been practicing: Target Combo 1, Demon Punch LP, FADC, loop until tatsu. Pretty lame, I know.
You mean against crouchers? I do c.LP, c.LP, b.MP xx lk slash, FADC, c.MP, c.HP xx hk Tatsu
Meterless I do c.Lp, c.LP, b.MP xx hp SRK.
dont use TC1, use TC2.
Rice-Eater
Member
I don't have great execution, I go for the easier links and rarely go for FADC combos. I don't do cr. MP, cl. HP link because getting the extra bit of stun and damage isn't worth it to deal with another 1f link. When it comes to punishing, I go straight for cl. HP into whatever. I also use cr. LP after MK axe kick instead of cr. MP.
Until just a few weeks ago, I couldn't reliably hit confirm low forward fireball into FADC combos. I grinded like crazy until I could finally do it reliably. It's a breath of fresh air to know this this is in my arsenal now. But basically their are still a lot of things I need to work on to become better with this character.
You could also replace the first cr.lp with a crouch tech. It'll allow you to tech throws if you mistime your normals as well as continue the combo if it you hit the cr.lk.
If that message consistently appears when you join rooms, you/host need to forward ports.
kevo_huevo
Member
Is that pretty easy to do? I run into that message sometimes, but not a majority of the time.
It's not so much humility as it's acknowledgement of the fact that not only is jlai a better player than me but that I am also not very good in the first place. My Rose is less than ideal to practice against for better Roses, but at least I can give him an idea of some of the stuff that works against her.
Edit: Rice-Eater, forgot to mention my PSN in case you ever feel like practicing: El--Sloth
Professor Beef
Banned
yun
If it doesn't occur very often, it's probably the host. Sometimes when you go to ranked, you might see that one person who always has a spot available but can never join. The other reason if you get that message is if someone joined before you.
It's pretty easy to fix. Just google PS3/360/Steam port forwarding. You can also set up a DMZ for your console which is a lot simpler.
Yun
direct_quote
Member
Could also be more complicated like my router modem duo. My modem doubled as a router (with only 1 ethernet port and no wireless) so I was behind 2 routers. Was actually quite difficult to find any easy info for the situation, but I was able to convert my modem's router to NAT only so forwarding ports on the router used for the home network worked for my PS3.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
If you want that cheap shit then I would definitely go with Yun or Cammy.
I think Cody is very good at applying pressure if you can properly use his buttons.
If this was AE I would recommend Fei Long cause he was damn good. I don't know how he plays in this. He's probably still good though.
If you can play Guy properly, he can apply some ridiculous pressure.
There's also Rufus. Though you have to be careful since so many people know that matchup.
Seth would've probably been perfect for you in the other versions, but everyone says he sucks in this.........I seriously doubt that though. But yeah he was hands down the cheapest character in my opinion. I would compare him to Zero in a way.....if you guessed wrong, you were fucked and he has a shitload of options. It wasn't uncommon for the character to get a Perfect on you with minimal effort, much like Zero. I loved playing Seth though....he was so much fun. I played him until AE.
yo damn son I would've chose seth. Im gonna go with Yun and Akuma for now, see where it takes me, ty for responses ppl!
hitsugi
Member
Seriously though, I'd second Yun or Cammy.
CountBlack
Member
use dj
I actually have two routers in my house too. What I did was make the second router an access point. It doesn't do anything other than send data to the primary router. It definitely simplified everything.
SloaneRisette
Member
Anyone have advice for how to beat a Rolento that only does the roll and taunts as Cody? I've fought a few of them online and I have the toughest time actually doing anything. Sweep doesn't reach generally and I feel rocks would be too slow. Advice to punish helps since I don't want to be caught unawares at a tournament.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
qcf+mk?
SloaneRisette
Member
I'll have to try that. Lag was probably a big issue, to be fair. Probably the best idea to try and combat it.
Rice-Eater
Member
Anyone want to play me? I can play on both systems.
Rice_Eater483 on Xbox
RiceEater483 on PS3
Rice_Eater483 on Xbox
RiceEater483 on PS3
Been waiting for your invite dude.
EDIT: you lied about your GT, it is RiceEater483
All Super Ultra Combo Compilation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkEm2ahi2Ts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkEm2ahi2Ts
Why? You have DWU, hurr hurr
Punching bags need love too.
Rice-Eater
Member
Rice-Eater
Member
Yeah it's pretty bad. I don't think either of us are really playing the way we want to.
Edit: it's so hard to play in the lag
Edit: it's so hard to play in the lag
black_vegeta
Member
My connection to Tiktokz is pretty decent. RiceEater on the other hand is similar to jlai's =(
Same here
Same, her bullshit vortex has been replaced with bullshit kara whiff canceling.
black_vegeta
Member
US to EU. ..play the Euros bruh
Actually, now she has both.
Passive Assassin
Member
I've given up attempting to play fighting games on PSN. It has helped my mood, immensely, and has reaffirmed my sanity. I no longer do the same thing... waiting for player... over... waiting for player... and over. I also no longer expect good things from Capcom. Elena is shite, DJ is worse, but my brain is right as rain.