Ggs Rice Eater and xCobalt
E.Ryu's dive kick is straight dumb. If I do a DP with Elena, you're going to end up in the behind me.. if I don't you'll end up in front. Or my DP will straight up whiff and you'll still be in front of me.
Fuck Yun
I think today is the first day I haven't played ultra since it dropped. I have a serious itch right now.
Does anyone here play Hakan? I wanna pick up a grappler besides Hawk.
A little late, but ggs to Kevo Huevo for the Decapre matches the other day. Mirror matches with Decap is kinda fun.
A little late, but ggs to Kevo Huevo for the Decapre matches the other day. Mirror matches with Decap is kinda fun.
^^All day in that matchup. Sure as hell a lot more fun than getting dive kicked constantly.
Ultradavid plays some Hakan. I think all the grapplers are pretty good in this- first time SF4 got the grapplers right, though they do have hard counters (and different ones each) Hakan might be the best of the bunch because he's the least counterable IMO. Ultradavid might say otherwise though
Has anyone spent time exploring Elena? I''m trying to sub her, but I'm not really understanding what Capcom is trying to do with her. Footsie high/low based character? Her range is good, but most of her specials whiff on the second hits or are ridiculously unsafe... any ideas, guys?
It's the same deal as Cammy, Akuma or Gouken's dive kick. I try to do it over the top of your head so that if you DP it will whiff. As for the last game, I thought I was going to be pretty sneaky and pick Yun against your Rose or Elena. Then you pull out DJ on me, I don't know how to beat DJ with Yun since my Yun is pretty much straight auto pilot and that doesn't work against DJ.
GGs
^^All day in that matchup. Sure as hell a lot more fun than getting dive kicked constantly.
I need more of that Sim experience though, and general matchup experience against all characters with Decapre.
Yeah I think all the grapplers are good too. Right now I'd prob rank them best to least best as Hakan, Hawk, Zangief, Hugo, but I'm pretty open to Gief being better than Hawk, and Hugo needs a lot more exploration before really knowing how good he is. I don't think any of them is worse than mid tier, yay! I also think that in combination they cover almost all the matchups in the game, maybe except for Juri and Sagat.
But yep, I agree, this is the best SF4 game for the grappler crew!
Sagat-Hakan is a bad MU for Sagat.
you're optimistic! i feel it's evenish or a slight loss for hakan myself
c.lk OS u1 beats all reversals/backdashes (except wakeup ultra obv) and even autocorrects to catch HK upkicks. its pretty fun
Yeah I think all the grapplers are good too. Right now I'd prob rank them best to least best as Hakan, Hawk, Zangief, Hugo, but I'm pretty open to Gief being better than Hawk, and Hugo needs a lot more exploration before really knowing how good he is. I don't think any of them is worse than mid tier, yay! I also think that in combination they cover almost all the matchups in the game, maybe except for Juri and Sagat.
But yep, I agree, this is the best SF4 game for the grappler crew!
Sorry, newb question. You do the joystick ultra motion when you hit crouching lk and hit ultra if it hits?
does dan still beat mak
Sorry, newb question. You do the joystick ultra motion when you hit crouching lk and hit ultra if it hits?
i haven't played it but i assume she probably does better than before. i assume that about her generally, i think she's kinda unreasonable in this game. not too good in the best character kind of way, but buffering super strong normals into 4-500 damage is like whoa wtf
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree, but the more damaging frame trap ability with dan's command HK would probably spell trouble for me. Let's play sometime again!
you're optimistic! i feel it's evenish or a slight loss for hakan myself
I'd imagine sagat has an easier time zoning hakan out compared to other fireball characters with his low tiger shot.
Slide doesn't go under low shot?I'd imagine sagat has an easier time zoning hakan out compared to other fireball characters with his low tiger shot.
Slide doesn't go under low shot?
I'd imagine sagat has an easier time zoning hakan out compared to other fireball characters with his low tiger shot.
Heh, Hugo is fun. Kinda late in the game to be thinking about an alt, though.
Slide doesn't go under low shot?
Hakan can slide under low tigershots on reaction.
Edit:
Lots of stuff goes under low shot.
psn anyone?
I'm in training mode right now and only his ex slide will work against low shots. All other slides get stuffed. The hakan player will probably end up losing some health just trying to build meter or getting in. If he does get in, Sagat isn't a character that can be bullied very easily.
I don't think theres any move that goes "under" low tiger shot. There are a lot moves that simply go through it because it has projectile invincibility
Gat vs Hawk is a fun matchup