Northeastmonk
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no, I'd be worried about getting my system banned. Mine is pre-loaded though.
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Ultra Street Fighter IV |OT| What is old is new once again
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no, I'd be worried about getting my system banned. Mine is pre-loaded though.
thelastword
Banned
Wow, just did the upgrade to the steamworks version. The audio in game is all kinds of messy, the announcer audio flares up out of nowhere then fiddles away in looping fashion. I spent almost 1 hour playing arcade mode and fiddling around, I only got one fight request during that time and it was very very laggy. I went to online battle under multiplayer, it seems that no one is playing at all.
direct_quote
Member
I believe some have tried that and it didn't work. Probably have to dll a patch on 6/3 to unlock.
Nemesis121
Member
Steamworks version of AE is buggy I get 200Frames with everything max out, yet sometimes it Freezes when i hit someone with a special attack in Arcade mode as though the system needs to load the hit..
Junior Asparagus
Member
When they say that the DLC is only available if you have SSFIV or AE, they mean your original disc, right? Like if I had vanilla and used DLC to upgrade all the way to AE2012, I still have to get a different disc.
I tried and it didn't work.
Kontergurke
Member
There is no DLC for Vanilla (except costumes).
You can't upgrade from Vanilla to any other version.
Junior Asparagus
Member
Oh yeah, haha. I guess I had SSFIV all along. For some reason I thought I upgraded from vanilla. I guess that shows how long it's been since I played.
Sorry, yeah your right. I forgot to factor in time zones for everyone, So you got the update for both? The retail version interest me so I'll get it for 360 in August. I don't have Gold right now either so It gives me sometime to play it on PS3.
direct_quote
Member
Are you going to stick with Sagat? It seems both Adon and Sagat were nerfed....
Sagat is gonna be fine. People are acting like the dude will be less than high tier in Ultra. Adon on the other hand though....
Rice-Eater
Member
Going by those changes, he got worse and most people feel the same way. Hard to say where he'll end up with the changes to everybody else. But if he's still high tier then it's because most of the cast also got worse or stayed the same, not because he got better.
CountBlack
Member
Sagat is gonna be the same essentially just without some damage. Same with Adon.. Fuck Adon anyway.
What did they nerf on Rolento? I haven't seen the arcade to console changes on the new characters yet.
Probably, I've been trying out some Evil Ryu and some Gouken lately and I wanna see how I like Rolento, Poison, and Hugo....but I'll probably stay with the King.
I dunno about that. You don't realize how much of a nerf it is unless you've been playing Sagat for a while. Sagat used to win the fireball war automatically vs. Everyone except Gouken and Guile. Now all of his matchups against fireballers become harder automatically. Guile, Gouken, Dhalsim, and Ryu especially are going to body Sagat.
Then characters that need to get in on Sagat have an easier time. He already does hardly any damage and now you can just focus dash through high tigers without too much worry.
And they nerfed his damage for whatever reason.
I actually think Adon looks pretty solid. The increased hitstun on his jab is a really big buff as well as the 2 light rising jaguars in the corner. They made him less braindead but he's going to excel in a game that will be more focused on footsies than in 2012 imo
Huw_Dawson
Member
direct_quote
Member
Rice-Eater do you plan on still doing a last hurray SSF4 AE tournament still?
They buffed his s.lk though and ultra 1 hits fully in the corner, both of which are big buffs imo. How would Ryu body Sagat in Ultra, at least in the fireball game? Sagat's fireballs(both versions) still have faster startup and even with the nerf to high tiger it still has faster recovery than ryu's fb as well, the only thing that it would affect would be the matchups he already had some trouble with that you mentioned earlier like gouken, guile, and sim. This isn't even taking into account the buffs to U1/U2 in terms of utility and st.lk being cancellable on 2nd hit.
and wat at sagat doing hardly any dmg. Play some Yang for a real dude that does hardly any dmg
If only they fixed him automatically doing a RJ instead of a IAJK on the P2 side I'd be playing him again.....
I definitely think Adon will be a lot worse though, they pretty much destroyed all of his neutral game tools. Sure, his pressure game when he's up close got better, but like you said Ultra will be more about the neutral, and they completely gutted his tools.
biosnake20
Member
The dp being -5 after fadc is a big nerf too. A lot of people say it's not a big deal because every dp character got that nerf, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a big nerf. On top of that i'm not sure if the people balancing took into account how much of a change that was for those characters just like when they took away akuma's and ryu's escape tatsu away in AE. It was looked at like a universal change but those characters weren't given buffs to reciprocate for that change which resulted in some bad match ups getting even worse for them(fei, cammy, etc).
All these nerfs will hit sagat hard and the only saving grace might be the stand short buff. It doesn't look that good now but it might be useful in some of his harder match ups.
rockmanjoe
Member
The only issue I have with steam ae is the announcer voice being too loud which is a bit annoying. Other than that it's fine.
I play with a friend from a different country and it's as smooth and playable as it was before the patch. (we get yellow to orange bars)
I play with a friend from a different country and it's as smooth and playable as it was before the patch. (we get yellow to orange bars)
Those are pretty reasonable changes. SRK says that his st.mp now has 3 active frames (down from 6) which isn't a big deal. The timing is just a bit less lenient. It's pretty common for antiairs to have 3 or 4 active frames. The most important thing about AA is probably the hitbox and startup...active frames not so much.
Patriot Circle will be -3 point blank. Rolento players will probably be canceling from a few normals beforehand so it may not be very punishable depending on the pushback
Did EX patriot have full invincibility? If it did, that would have been really dumb. I don't think there's a character in the game that has a fully invincible wakeup that can lead into ultra.
Nabs
Member
Oh QLOC is doing the Steamworks conversion? No worries then it'll be fixed.
I'll test it since I still have the GFWL version installed though.
Seems about the same?
Thanks for this.
Huw_Dawson
Member
I'm not even sure Fei's non-EX rekka is even meant to be useful for that anymore.
Huw_Dawson
Member
Have to wait and see on that one. In any case, Rolento has a lovely array of normals for his footsie game, so one of his weaker footsie tools being -3 isn't that bad. Unless you suck at hitconfirms vs Gief.
Anyway:
I just got 3K PP and 10K BP as Rufus in AE2012! This is a huge accomplishment for me, because I've had to come a long way from my old
scrubby and over-focused on one aspect of Rufus
(I'm still totally getting lucky with divekick mixups and Ex Messiah reads though)
Same. I can't "u suk scrub!1" random laggy blankas anymore.
Yeah pretty much this haha, I used to send 'gg wp' messages too but now I can't really be bothered to send a friend request and keep checking to see if they accepted.
Rice-Eater
Member
Oh shoot, I forgot all about it. I work tomorrow and Monday. Unless we throw something real quick tonight. I don't have any time.
Could just re-purpose it as an Ultra launch tourney. I definitely would recommend setting a hard limit to the number of entrats though so it's manageable.
Rice-Eater
Member
The idea was to throw a farewell to AE tourney with the prize being a free copy of the digital version of USF4 on both consoles. Or me just reimbursing the winners if they already put down money on it. Their is almost no time for that now, especially since I'm working the next two days.
Maybe we can come up with something for USF4 in the next couple of weeks though. I'd like to see some interest though. When I talked about it in the SSF4 thread I think I only got two responses.
Good idea
Deckard Cain
Banned
Also please remember ONLY CLOSE STAND LIGHT KICK is now cancelable. It is NOT SF4 far standing light kick.
This is by far the weakest version of Sagat. He pretty much sucks.
This is by far the weakest version of Sagat. He pretty much sucks.
Deckard Cain
Banned
Nemo said he was irrelevent in his state at the NWM build. He got nerfed even harder since then. Take that for what it's worth.
sf2fanatic
Member
Kinda of a weird question, is arcades gonna get ultra soon too? Sometimes I like to go hit up Super Arcade or Round One to play. Thx
Deckard Cain
Banned
Only thing derpy about him was EX.Roll
Japan got it in April.
Deckard Cain
Banned
The game will never be in US Arcades because it runs off that Japanese Arcade network.
sf2fanatic
Member
Ok cool I'll go check it out soon. I usually hit up Round One when I go to the movies since it's almost next door
Deckard Cain
Banned
You didn't listen did you....
Rice-Eater
Member
They should include the Japanese arcade version in Edition Select to make Ken, Sagat, and Rolento players happy.
Lol DJ
CountBlack
Member
I fucking knew that spoiler was going to be more slander
Still not over how dirty they're doing DJ. They waited until the final version to roll out the nerfs so nobody could complain at Loke tests. Capcom stay gully
Really? well then....I take back what I said lol.
Deckard Cain
Banned
Lets go down the suck tier list & see who sucks in Ultra.
-Deejay
-Ken
-Sagat
-Rolento
-Dahlsim
-Hugo
Those are the ones that reallt c
ome to mind.
-Deejay
-Ken
-Sagat
-Rolento
-Dahlsim
-Hugo
Those are the ones that reallt c
ome to mind.
sf2fanatic
Member
Infiltration got a lot of practicing to do until EVO