direct_quote
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True I did learn her enough to do the kunai vortex, but not sako combos... So I don't feel I can max her potential out
I'm always in need of more derp for free wins.
edit: GGs guys I need sleep for work tomorrow..
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edit: GGs guys I need sleep for work tomorrow..
Passive Assassin
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dem sakonoookoo combos 
any footage of sako playing ultra in the wild yet?
any footage of sako playing ultra in the wild yet?Rice-Eater
Member
Yeah, definitely.
If it's scrub GAF night then I'll join just for the combo practice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftearndPwoU&t=2m54s
Thanks for the combo practice Floyd. I'll make sure not to drop it next time
Actually, in this new version, SJC is very important. Now TC6 and TC8 are pretty much the only way she can get good damage on characters with messed up hurtboxes as Decapre, even if you can do 1 framers.
GGS dawg let's grind some more this week.
The Mango Sentinel
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W ultras are so ticklish. Though they can put you in a shitty position depending on the character using them. Hakan W ultra = every choice you make is wrong.
Thank goodness he's one of the 60% characters.
Thank goodness he's one of the 60% characters.
Professor Beef
Banned
Hugo, too. I'm convinced that you need good reactions to play Hugo, and having Wumbo definitely helps that.
2008 XBL chun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTqr0CX29KY
2014 XBL decapre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFhFiezn7B4
2014 XBL decapre https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFhFiezn7B4
TurtleSnatcher
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lol Marz blown up. For a guy who trash talks another person on GAF to only get blown up hard and for that person to have a 10 game win streak (you can see the streak in the Chun video)... Why would you even do that?
I didn't actually see a linked combo in those matches from Sagat except for a jump in rh followed by a cr. mk and then it ended.
Rice-Eater
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My post about Floyd was just poking fun. This on the other hand, damn. Thank you based Capcom for the youtube feature. Now no one is safe from the blow ups.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
I'm trying to play Hugo but I'm having a hard time linking claps so it feels like this dream is just about dead.
The overlapping inputs don't help anything either
Passive Assassin
Member
toronto lameness wins!
Who is you? Trash talking is what makes the game fun.
And the win streak wasnt just on me. He beat my Sagat 4-1.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
Well duh the win streak wasn't just on you. There was a lobby. I just find it hilarious that you call out his Chun and then say "I just got 4 wins in a row, lets see how you can do" and he totally blows you up on it
Exactly haha
Rice-Eater
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Turtlesnatcher was around a lot more during the Vanilla and Super days. I believe he is/was a Pad Fuerte. Eventually he stopped coming around SF4/FG threads. It's good to see some old faces pop up every now and then.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
I actually continued to play through AE2012 .. Never stopped but I just didn't play much online and just played offline with co-workers at work.
Still using Fuerte, and my alt is still Cody. I dabble with Cammy and Ryu
Yo Marz should have confidence in his fireball game. And patience I guess.
Please tell me you went for c HP x hk legs but messed up.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Totally forgot this game now has an online training mode. Gonna put this to good use.
Sorry was sleeping...
Mainly his st.Fierce being buffed - can link into it from light and go to hadouken (true blockstring) and then into FADC etc. It's also cancellable; into srk or shaku so again, guaranteed pressure and stun. Basically it feels like his neutral / ground game is stronger now with higher potential stun output, which makes sense since the overall vortex game has been slightly nerfed.
The buff to his st. medium kick - forcing crouching opponents to stand - also adds to this increased pressure in his ground game and bnbs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftearndPwoU&t=2m54s
Thanks for the combo practice Floyd. I'll make sure not to drop it next time
Haha, gotta respect Floyd for not just mashing DP or something during that.
He accepted his fate, and I believe it created a moment there.
Also gotta respect dat ERyu with his hair down.
Would love to fight sometime if you don't mind testing connection to wherever you're based (I have a silky smooth wired connection if it helps).
PSN: BobioJapan
Huw_Dawson
Member
So, played as Rufus online last night.
I think the reason that he's probably in the top five for rarest online characters is pretty clear. Amazing offline character, but online? Profound sadness.
Here's why:
Rufus is a rushdown character who is unsafe sometimes, has relatively hard BNBs and a very good EX reversal. He has to be able to put you in a blockstring, play smart footsies and deal with certain difficult matchups (grapplers, Sagat).
Online play is riddled with people who start mashing and guessing as soon as they get put under any kind of pressure. This isn't raging, this is what I've seen over and over again in both this version and 2012. There only thing I can read is that they will do *something* at any given point, but beyond that it's like a massive cloud of WTF.
The difference between offline - where I get rewarded with pressure for good reads, can actually play a bait game, can go for tricky crossup setups and other difficult stuff - and online - where people will do ANYTHING to get out of pressure or any situation they are not totally comfortable with and blockstrings are blown up by lag - is night and day. It's not fun to play against and it's really unsatisfying (and bad meter management) to just blow up their mashed wakeup jabs and crappy reversals with EX Messiah.
I just don't see how you're supposed to play the character reliably in that kind of environment. I can beat good players, but the consistency just isn't there and I am totally stumped how to approach the environment with Rufus. Shit is frustrating.
I think the reason that he's probably in the top five for rarest online characters is pretty clear. Amazing offline character, but online? Profound sadness.
Here's why:
Rufus is a rushdown character who is unsafe sometimes, has relatively hard BNBs and a very good EX reversal. He has to be able to put you in a blockstring, play smart footsies and deal with certain difficult matchups (grapplers, Sagat).
Online play is riddled with people who start mashing and guessing as soon as they get put under any kind of pressure. This isn't raging, this is what I've seen over and over again in both this version and 2012. There only thing I can read is that they will do *something* at any given point, but beyond that it's like a massive cloud of WTF.
The difference between offline - where I get rewarded with pressure for good reads, can actually play a bait game, can go for tricky crossup setups and other difficult stuff - and online - where people will do ANYTHING to get out of pressure or any situation they are not totally comfortable with and blockstrings are blown up by lag - is night and day. It's not fun to play against and it's really unsatisfying (and bad meter management) to just blow up their mashed wakeup jabs and crappy reversals with EX Messiah.
I just don't see how you're supposed to play the character reliably in that kind of environment. I can beat good players, but the consistency just isn't there and I am totally stumped how to approach the environment with Rufus. Shit is frustrating.
Not-So-Solid Snake
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So I've been hitting training mode with Blanka, and testing stuff on the new characters, and man is Elena's hurtbox weird. With the increased pushback on crouching mk, now crossup mk, c. mk, s.lp, s.lp, h. ball only works on characters with a big hurtbox, and Elena for some reason. In fact, every combo, even character specific combo's I've tried work on her. Also, since we have some Elena players here, I'll warn you now before other Blanka's find out, even though you probably wont see it, but after a throw, Blanka has an ambiguous as fuck setup where j. hk can cross her up.
Also I found a setup for a mixup U1 after red focus. If you do j. hk, c.mk, s.lp, m. ball, RFC, and then land the mixup U1, you can do up to 816 damage :O
Also I found a setup for a mixup U1 after red focus. If you do j. hk, c.mk, s.lp, m. ball, RFC, and then land the mixup U1, you can do up to 816 damage :O
BnB is 1 frame link. Blockstring after a divekick unless you hit on the foot of your opponent will leave you at a frame disadvantage, bet your ass they gonna mash on wake up if the have a good reversal, and if you don't have meter you are good as free on wake up.
In general I will say that rufus has advantage over any character with no reliable reversal like rose, sim, etc; the rest of the match ups are 50/50 except for the bad ones like gief, sagat, etc.
You should hit up that demon Ryu player from Sweden; I hear he's a good training partner to have to mimic the online environment tactics you're talking about.
Easily my favorite of the new 5.
You change your style and wait for them to do something on wakeup then punish it.
PrivateRyan
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftearndPwoU&t=2m54s
Thanks for the combo practice Floyd. I'll make sure not to drop it next time
Yooo I got blownup on youtube AGAIN???
First time here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bn3vJldZeo from my most likely hour 1 Poison, I didn't know wtf to do...
It's like people only like posting vids of me getting exposed clean but nobody posts vids of my 20 game winstreaks :c
We need to get a long set going Rice. You did improve a lot, man.
sixteen-bit
Member
oh...
And her throws do 140 and 150 damage. More than both boxers, more than Sagat. That's as much as Honda, aka she is tied for second best regular throw damage (first is the 360 grapplers). Don't underestimate sublte advantages like these. Simply having 50 hp and 10-20 throw damage over the rest of the cast will win Poison some close fights.
Privilege.
CountBlack
Member
my bad
Also, don't test Vulva's reactions to fireballs. They will be on point 99% of the time.
How do you think she keeps Hugo in check...
CountBlack
Member
Potatoes?
DryEyeRelief
Member
this is amazing
What? That Poison is a newhalf? Doesn't really matter, but Capcom continuously throws hints at us. Remember Kuma's win quote against Poison? lol
levyjl1988
Banned
If it's the complete edition, then why is there more DLC coming out for it? Preorder bonus DLC, etc? I thought everything was on the disc? You think Capcom is going to milk this further with more costumes down the road?
That's the full version in August.
Unfortunately this only applies to retail copies of the game :/
BotoxAgent
Member
lol that answers that
black_vegeta
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Lol Marz