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Uncharted 3 |OT| All Developers Dream, But Not Equally
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dwebo said:
I had some problems there too. With the
boat graveyard and cruise ship interior
With the back jumping, I think my issues were when the item I was jumping from was moving.
DangerousDave
Member
Jason's Ultimatum said:
You have, not one, two threads about this.
dwebo said:
This was absolute bullshit. I literally tried this 10 different ways and nothing worked. I would snap the guy at the top's neck then quickly snap the other guy's neck before he turned around. The bullshit part is that the middle guy is automatically alterted no matter what. It's fucking ridiculous.
DeadRockstar
Member
After finishing the game my opinion hasn't really changed much. It does get better, specifically from chapters 16 onwards but overall it's disappointing. 2 is the better game for me.
Quick thoughts:
-Elena discovered mascara and maybe gel liner.
-The cast are still enjoyable to play through a game with.
-As much as I like pretty much the entire cast, I enjoyed the stronger focus on Drake and Sully's relationship this time around.
-The lack of bullet impact and to a lesser extent the aggressive AI ruins most combat scenarios because I can't hold off an enemy assault if bullets don't slow them.
-It feels like there are less gunfights this time, but there's always re-enforcements. It's tedious after a while. Lots of games do it, U3 went too far.
-When Drake said "I'm sick of these assholes[enemies]" he wasn't the only one that felt that way.
-Combat has changed but not really evolved. It feels clunkier this time if anything.
-Set pieces can't survive on what's happening alone. It has to be exciting to play through. The
really wasn't for me, despite it looking fantastic.
-Chapters 16 onwards were more exciting to play through.
-The level of polish doesn't match U2 in any department bar the visuals.
-Difficulty didn't feel smooth. It never got bad, but it felt kind of all over the place.
-You can shoot the window out in the
-Marco solo.
-I thank ND for their restraint RE:
I hope ND switch it up for their next game. I'll still be there when Uncharted comes back, but I hope it gets a break to work some stuff out and we get a new game in the mean time.
Quick thoughts:
-Elena discovered mascara and maybe gel liner.
-The cast are still enjoyable to play through a game with.
-As much as I like pretty much the entire cast, I enjoyed the stronger focus on Drake and Sully's relationship this time around.
-The lack of bullet impact and to a lesser extent the aggressive AI ruins most combat scenarios because I can't hold off an enemy assault if bullets don't slow them.
-It feels like there are less gunfights this time, but there's always re-enforcements. It's tedious after a while. Lots of games do it, U3 went too far.
-When Drake said "I'm sick of these assholes[enemies]" he wasn't the only one that felt that way.
-Combat has changed but not really evolved. It feels clunkier this time if anything.
-Set pieces can't survive on what's happening alone. It has to be exciting to play through. The
cruise ship
-Chapters 16 onwards were more exciting to play through.
-The level of polish doesn't match U2 in any department bar the visuals.
-Difficulty didn't feel smooth. It never got bad, but it felt kind of all over the place.
-You can shoot the window out in the
cruise ship and it will flood and kill you.
-I thank ND for their restraint RE:
supernatural enemies. They're there, but there's only a few and they aren't that bad. Although demon grenades, really?
I hope ND switch it up for their next game. I'll still be there when Uncharted comes back, but I hope it gets a break to work some stuff out and we get a new game in the mean time.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Its a very good game, but its just not GOTY material like UC2 was. The shooting is janky, the stealth is hit or miss, and the melee is a glorified QTE, but now it takes longer, with half a dozen "brute" boss fights they have the same damn animations over and over. Its a testament to the storytelling, visuals, set pieces, and great animations that the game is still great even with less then stellar gameplay. I actually want to replay all the UC games now, just to spend more time with these characters.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Not a single one has commented that it feels different from the second game. I wonder if this was some kind of big that has seeped into the retail build :/ Much like how seemingly noone at ND knew that retail game has no motion blur. Hell, I got a tweet response from Evan Wells stating that game definitely does have MB.monome said:
Hmm, maybe that was it. Those were the cases where I noticed it most.WebScud said:
:lol yep.Jarmel said:
It was the e3 demo, not fallon. And there were only two guys, with the second not turning around even.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwywuVzrJTg&t=49s
Jason's Ultimatum
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Playing as young Drake
BruiserBear
Banned
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iamshadowlark
Banned
Chapter 5 done and honestly is vastly superior to UC2. Animation, lighting, the story, camera angles, etc has taken a step forward from an already impressive stoop. The aim is no doubt different but not necessarily bad in anyway.
Only up to Chapter 5/6 (going into forest now). Quick impression:
+ Packaging is insanely good:
+ The game story flows nicely with some neat surprise.
+ I like the interaction between the characters so far.
+ The first firefight was fun even though I had slight problem with control.
- Controller is not as precise as I'd like it to be. This is both when walking and aiming.
- The graphic feels a bit off especially in the flashback part. The colors are vibrant but maybe too vibrant. I don't expect greys and blacks but toning down the color a bit may help to create a bit more realism. As it is now, that section felt a bit like I was walking around in fake city surrounded with mannequin people. Definitely not as impressive as Nepal in UC2.
+ Packaging is insanely good:
+ The game story flows nicely with some neat surprise.
+ I like the interaction between the characters so far.
+ The first firefight was fun even though I had slight problem with control.
- Controller is not as precise as I'd like it to be. This is both when walking and aiming.
- The graphic feels a bit off especially in the flashback part. The colors are vibrant but maybe too vibrant. I don't expect greys and blacks but toning down the color a bit may help to create a bit more realism. As it is now, that section felt a bit like I was walking around in fake city surrounded with mannequin people. Definitely not as impressive as Nepal in UC2.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
BruiserBear said:
Then edit your post. ;P
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
It's something I'm positive I'll fondly remember for a time to come. Visuals, music, everything there was just so good.Jason's Ultimatum said:
thetrin
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I'm up to Chapter 13 at the moment, and absolutely loving the game. It feels as if its paced very differently from U2, and i don't mind that. I actually do like that there are so many quiet moments in the game. Those exploration/puzzle segments are a lot of fun.
The chateau was absolutely BRILLIANT, and I'm sure the rest of the game will overshadow it, but so far, that is the part that has really blown me away so far.
The chateau was absolutely BRILLIANT, and I'm sure the rest of the game will overshadow it, but so far, that is the part that has really blown me away so far.
Callibretto
Member
in chapter 2, does it make anyone wish for a point an click adventure game look like this? I mean game like Broken Sword.
for some reason; drake is pissing me off in UC3. I actually see the "stew drunk comments".
a) always seem to be touching walls ... even when you're not near it. I don't know what they were thinking. Noticed it with
but its still here now.
b) running animation looks off. I NEVER thought that with UC1+2. he keeps looking left right every 2-3 steps and it just looks weird. I don't recall any of this with the previous 2 games. The amount of lean on way makes it look like he is going right or left... try finding somewhere to run towards the camera and you can just see it.
this is greatly annoying me.
a) always seem to be touching walls ... even when you're not near it. I don't know what they were thinking. Noticed it with
kid drake
b) running animation looks off. I NEVER thought that with UC1+2. he keeps looking left right every 2-3 steps and it just looks weird. I don't recall any of this with the previous 2 games. The amount of lean on way makes it look like he is going right or left... try finding somewhere to run towards the camera and you can just see it.
this is greatly annoying me.
So far I am quite amazed. Naughty Dog surprised me again
.
Aiming and controls in general feel clunkier than U&U2 though... and I'm having rare clipping issues at times (IIRC in non-playable parts), the game pauses for half a second in weird places. Loading I guess but... not that well planned.
Anyways, other than that, I really miss the motion blur. Why the fucks isn't it in there??
Also, what happened to the focus effects we've seen countless times in previews??... and in Uncharted 2 in fact...
with young Drake
Aiming and controls in general feel clunkier than U&U2 though... and I'm having rare clipping issues at times (IIRC in non-playable parts), the game pauses for half a second in weird places. Loading I guess but... not that well planned.
Anyways, other than that, I really miss the motion blur. Why the fucks isn't it in there??
Also, what happened to the focus effects we've seen countless times in previews??... and in Uncharted 2 in fact...
gundamkyoukai
Member
StuBurns said:
So what did you think about the boat level , to me that's my highlight i just love the whole thing .
EDIT had some good co op games yesterday with some rnds.
Also a few bugs where i get stuck and had to kill my self to move forward .
Auron_Kale
Member
Callibretto said:
It'd actually be kind of fun, now that you think about it. Being able to simply interact with everything in that chapter would be cool.
To be honest though, even if it were dlc or maybe a Vita title, I'd love to have another game based around Chapters 2&3.
One thing I didn't like about it was the one guy who you can't melee. I thought the worst part of UC2 was the train guy who magically was harder to kill, and they kind of pulled the same crap again. To beat him I basically broke his AI by running around him in circles so he couldn't shoot or kick me and hip fired till he died, very irritating. Overall I quite liked that section, I like most of the game really beyond the first few levels. The boat was very low on set pieces and cutscenes till the end, which was really great. There was a nice combat puzzle when you first get out their too, larger than any I remember in UC1/2, I could be wrong there though.gundamkyoukai said:
Finished it last night on hard. Like the previous two games, my desire for more Uncharted is never quite satisfied when the game ends. I plan to do a crushing run later this week.
Gameplay thoughts:
The puzzles aren't harder, but they are much better designed and much more interesting and memorable than UC2/UC1.
Platforming, as a traversal mechanic, was decent most of the time. Some areas even had different paths you could take. One grievance I have is with sections where you weren't allowed to drop down or jump off a ledge in the direction you wanted. You only had two options: go back to a previous ledge or jump in the direction of the next ledge. These few areas are just like the poor platforming found in the game Enslaved. The restrictions in movement are unnecessary. If I want to jump off in a random direction to my death or lose a bunch of platforming progress, let me do it. The risk should always be there, imo.
The melee combat can feel awkward sometimes. I think this is an issue with polish. Also, the QTE prompts seem unnecessary. Gunplay would have been a bit better if the only enemies who rushed you were the ones who could take a lot of hits. It doesn't make sense for the weaker enemies to come up to you since they go down so easily and aren't really a threat. It feels like their only existence is to give you ammo.
Optional Stealth was a lot of fun and very satisfying. I went with the observe and then trial and error approach. There were areas where I couldn't figure out how to do completely in stealth, though.
Gameplay thoughts:
The puzzles aren't harder, but they are much better designed and much more interesting and memorable than UC2/UC1.
Platforming, as a traversal mechanic, was decent most of the time. Some areas even had different paths you could take. One grievance I have is with sections where you weren't allowed to drop down or jump off a ledge in the direction you wanted. You only had two options: go back to a previous ledge or jump in the direction of the next ledge. These few areas are just like the poor platforming found in the game Enslaved. The restrictions in movement are unnecessary. If I want to jump off in a random direction to my death or lose a bunch of platforming progress, let me do it. The risk should always be there, imo.
The melee combat can feel awkward sometimes. I think this is an issue with polish. Also, the QTE prompts seem unnecessary. Gunplay would have been a bit better if the only enemies who rushed you were the ones who could take a lot of hits. It doesn't make sense for the weaker enemies to come up to you since they go down so easily and aren't really a threat. It feels like their only existence is to give you ammo.
Optional Stealth was a lot of fun and very satisfying. I went with the observe and then trial and error approach. There were areas where I couldn't figure out how to do completely in stealth, though.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
DOF is still there both in cutscenes and when you're aiming, much like in UC2.Oneself said:
BigTnaples
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Outtrigger888 said:
Sweet. Thanks.
cameron said:
I don't really remember UC1&2 had more difficult puzzles but I do agree these ones are far more memorable. So incredibly well thought out. Like in Chapter 11
The room with all the body parts on poles everywhere. Using the lantern to cast the shadow of the guy with the spear on the wall.
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