That first bit was definitely in something fairly recent (or at least past decade), but I can't place my finger on it either, and now it's going to bug me. I'm leaning towards an action movie (superhero, perhaps), and it was probably featured in the trailer. I might comb through some tonight if nobody's figured it out yet.Alf-Life said:
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Uncharted 3 |OT| All Developers Dream, But Not Equally
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BruceLeeRoy
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Net_Wrecker said:
Hahaha those are my favorite sections.
bluedeviltron
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Remember guys, this is NeoGAF. There's no such thing as a poorly designed combat encounter. You just suck at games.
Finally started this last night. Was kind of bummed at first; the opening sequence wasn't the same thrill that UC2's opening was, and I was like, what, melee combat? This isn't what UC is about. Felt like playing a very long QTE scene.
Over the next hour or so, especially with the next few chapters, the brilliance of UCC2 infused itself into 3 again, and I fell in love.
That
How does this game look this fucking good?! Argh, amazing. I mean, U2 still looks staggeringly beautiful to me, and this is the same or better. Amazing.
I'm so fucking happy I know nothing about this game. Media blackouts may be the way to go in the future. I haven't followed this at all, save one or two trailers, and everything's a fun surprise.
Regrettably, aiming definitely feels 100% shittier than UC2. I noticed it when playing the game at FanExpo in Toronto in August, but thought that maybe it was my rusty UC2 skills from 2009 not kicking in properly. It's definitely worse.
Over the next hour or so, especially with the next few chapters, the brilliance of UCC2 infused itself into 3 again, and I fell in love.
That
chase sequence as Young Drake! I was pumped, f'realz.
How does this game look this fucking good?! Argh, amazing. I mean, U2 still looks staggeringly beautiful to me, and this is the same or better. Amazing.
I'm so fucking happy I know nothing about this game. Media blackouts may be the way to go in the future. I haven't followed this at all, save one or two trailers, and everything's a fun surprise.
Regrettably, aiming definitely feels 100% shittier than UC2. I noticed it when playing the game at FanExpo in Toronto in August, but thought that maybe it was my rusty UC2 skills from 2009 not kicking in properly. It's definitely worse.
JumpingTheGun
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bluedeviltron said:
avatar quote.
exactly how tough is this on Crushing? What are some solid tips as Ive never done an UC Crushing run, but this game is so damn good and fun to me that I aim to do it. Im already close to midway through my 2nd run.
Incendiary
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Now that people have it, here's my big complaint about U3, regarding the advertising:
In U2, the cover was the train sequence; the iconic thing people associate with the game is the hanging from the train. The first chapter of U2? The train. Sure, it then jumps back, but you pick back up to the train sequence around what, Chapter 12? And the train sequence lasts for a good 4 chapters. The game kind of builds up to that moment as like the anchor.
In U3, the iconic sequence is the plane crash: it's on the cover, it was presented in the first trailer reveal way back when. And (spoilers regarding the plane crash):
In U2, the cover was the train sequence; the iconic thing people associate with the game is the hanging from the train. The first chapter of U2? The train. Sure, it then jumps back, but you pick back up to the train sequence around what, Chapter 12? And the train sequence lasts for a good 4 chapters. The game kind of builds up to that moment as like the anchor.
In U3, the iconic sequence is the plane crash: it's on the cover, it was presented in the first trailer reveal way back when. And (spoilers regarding the plane crash):
The plane sequence is Chapter 17, the crash is literally the start of the final act. And I dunno, especially with 18 being the "lost and alone" chapter, we only end up having two action chapters regarding the desert, then two chapters in the final city. It's like...the advertising built up the desert being the significant portion of the game and the anchor of the game...but it's really the finale. I got to the plane crash and was like "okay, now it's going to get good" and then a little while later I was hitting the finale and I was just like...wait, what? It's sad because the caravan section and the sandstorm shoot-out were probably two of my favorite points in the game, but I just wish next time Naughty Dog would choose a different anchor for their advertising. Especially since the plane sequence was so...short.
Net_Wrecker
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D6AMIA6N said:
I get the whole "up against overwhelming odds" thing, but it's not good design if it happens in literally almost every shooting section of the 2nd half of game. You know what I thought was an example of good design?
The part where you're on the roof with Sully, Chloe, and Cutter, and the RPG/Hammer guys start firing at you and everyone tells you to grab the Sniper.
ashbash159
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I have just completed the game!
I've never spoiled myself with so much of the content of the game than I have with this. I've definitely learnt to not try and spoil anything for myself for any future games.
I've never spoiled myself with so much of the content of the game than I have with this. I've definitely learnt to not try and spoil anything for myself for any future games.
webcivilian
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Finished the game yesterday. I have to say I wasn't as wowed as UC2. The graphics are improved but the jaggies killed all the improvement imo. The shooting mechanics seemed off.
The platforming is awesome and so are the puzzles. Hand to hand combat can be too much sometimes.
The story didn't feel as good as UC2 and sometimes felt taken straight out of UC2. Some of the set pieces were great but others not so much. Sometimes the game felt like replaying a chapter from UC2 but not as great. UC3 itself is great game no doubt but when compared to UC2. UC2 still takes the crown.
The platforming is awesome and so are the puzzles. Hand to hand combat can be too much sometimes.
The story didn't feel as good as UC2 and sometimes felt taken straight out of UC2. Some of the set pieces were great but others not so much. Sometimes the game felt like replaying a chapter from UC2 but not as great. UC3 itself is great game no doubt but when compared to UC2. UC2 still takes the crown.
Completely agree with this. I fully expected that to be much earlier (when he wasIncendiary said:
captured
A bit related, but I feel both this game and 2 don't spend nearly enough time in their
final areas. I wanted to see more of Shambala back then, and I wanted to see more of Atlantis in the sands now, but you're in and out within a few chapters. Doesn't help that the heightened end-game pace makes it feel shorter than it is anyway.
RedRedSuit
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Kagari said:
I try to keep the OP in the other thread, http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=450689&page=19, up-to-date with all related news. In fact, if someone could change the titel of the thread to contain [Details in OP] or something, that would be nice.
They made an official statement detailing some minor differences in the aiming from Among Thieves, but didn't formally admit any issue. The changes were universally framed as positives.Kagari said:
Arne posted in a now-locked aiming thread that their release of that statement indicates that they were "looking into it." Sounds somewhat promising.
BruceLeeRoy
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patsu said:
The problem is that with the introduction of the more complicated Melee I think ND didn't have time to get the procedures of when the AI should rush you and engage in melee or when it should seek cover fine tuned enough. Hence in the more open areas you have enemies making suicidal maneuvers to get in close to you that just feels odd. The later chapters(12 on) greatly alleviate this though because of natural barriers that make it difficult for the AI to do a all out rush on you. The areas are also laid out in a more straightforward manner so that its easier to progress.
I stumbled across some really bad input lag issues. I took this video.
Also, I'm all for Drake switching hands when shooting contextually, but I want to be able to do it as well.
Also, I'm all for Drake switching hands when shooting contextually, but I want to be able to do it as well.
ViewtifulJC
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dwebo said:
I totally agree. We get there, everything looks amazing, but you get to walk around and explore or do puzzles and shit, you're just rushed through shootouts and action sequences, because its the big finale and that's what you do, I suppose.
cpp_is_king
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I hate to say it, but so far I'm disappointed. I mean I still love the game, but I feel like after I'm done, I'll probably want to rate it an 8/10 instead of an 10/10 which I thought was basically a given.
I really hate the controls, I really hate the "swimmy" movement, I hate the extremely limited camera angles they allow you to work with (the most egregious example so far is the camera facing you while you're running on the top of the collapsing roof), and I hate the way the camera locks onto something during certain parts and you can't do anything about it.
Oh, and worst of all, I fucking hate that I specifically went into the options and turned Game Hints off, but sure enough, if I don't solve shit fast enough, Sully comes in and blabs out the fucking answer as clear as day.
It's ironic, because now that I look back on those reviews that everyone was complaining about that mentioned things like this, at the time I felt like the reviewer was stupid or just "didn't get it", and now I can kind of see myself thinking the same things.
Meh.
I really hate the controls, I really hate the "swimmy" movement, I hate the extremely limited camera angles they allow you to work with (the most egregious example so far is the camera facing you while you're running on the top of the collapsing roof), and I hate the way the camera locks onto something during certain parts and you can't do anything about it.
Oh, and worst of all, I fucking hate that I specifically went into the options and turned Game Hints off, but sure enough, if I don't solve shit fast enough, Sully comes in and blabs out the fucking answer as clear as day.
It's ironic, because now that I look back on those reviews that everyone was complaining about that mentioned things like this, at the time I felt like the reviewer was stupid or just "didn't get it", and now I can kind of see myself thinking the same things.
Meh.
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Which is really unfortunate. I don't even really enjoy the shooting sections in Uncharted. It's everything else I thoroughly enjoy. If only they gave more weight to those other aspects in the late game.ViewtifulJC said:
I don't know if that's the case in U3, as I'm not finished yet, but I do find it to be a downside to the series.
BruceLeeRoy
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Net_Wrecker said:
So basically your the type of player that likes the game to lead you more. You want encounters that are specifically a sniper encounter or a close quarters or rocket launcher blow the humvee up encounter. That is fine but its not the strength of the UC games and never has been. ND has given you all the tools you need to beat any of the combat scenarios of the game. You just have to utilize them. If you don't like them fine but don't try and act likes it their fault cause its not how you like your encounters to go.
cpp_is_king said:
Let me guess your not passed chapter 9.
JumpingTheGun
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30 more minutes before I get out of here and play some more. ARRGHHH I CAN DO THIS.
Someone mentioned the iconic sequences in the games that are depicted on the games covers. So what was the iconic sequence in Drake's Fortune? =P
Someone mentioned the iconic sequences in the games that are depicted on the games covers. So what was the iconic sequence in Drake's Fortune? =P
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm literally blown away that the aiming is causing some people so much problems. I noticed it was off, and it obviously is, but man I can't say it ever slowed me down on my first playthrough on hard mode.
Guess people just play differently. Hopefully they patch it.
Guess people just play differently. Hopefully they patch it.
RedRedSuit
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Kagari said:
thx
RedRedSuit
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Kagari said:PM me if you ever need more updates
Right! PM! Good point.
DevelopmentArrested
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Just finished it. I'd give it a 9.5/10. By comparison, I'd give Uncharted 2 a 10.
+ The graphics and the music are absolutely phenomenal.
+ Some of the setpieces are really fun and just as epic as UC2.
+ Really enjoyed the amount of platforming and puzzles.
+ Loved the story and all the character interaction btw Nate and Sully.
+ The multiplayer and coop are very solid, guns and maps feel good.
- The gunfights aren't as well designed as UC2
- The enemy AI is incredibly dumb mainly because ND wanted them to rush you so you'd use melee more.
- Speaking of melee, there is far too much of it and its way too QTE driven.
- I feel like ND added too many animations, Drake moves clunkier than UC2.
- I wish there were more competitive MP maps from the get-go.
+ The graphics and the music are absolutely phenomenal.
+ Some of the setpieces are really fun and just as epic as UC2.
+ Really enjoyed the amount of platforming and puzzles.
+ Loved the story and all the character interaction btw Nate and Sully.
+ The multiplayer and coop are very solid, guns and maps feel good.
- The gunfights aren't as well designed as UC2
- The enemy AI is incredibly dumb mainly because ND wanted them to rush you so you'd use melee more.
- Speaking of melee, there is far too much of it and its way too QTE driven.
- I feel like ND added too many animations, Drake moves clunkier than UC2.
- I wish there were more competitive MP maps from the get-go.
Replaying the game on hard with aiming on max sensitivity feels slightly better.
Still don't understand some of the battles though.
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Also, i found Chloe and Elena looking really weird. Seem they both went to the digital plastic surgeon. Found them a lot more natural looking in previous games (beside the eyes).
Still don't understand some of the battles though.
End of chapter 11, small rectangular place with the smoke. Very little room to navigate or hide. No problem, but then a big guy comes up that you have to melee while the other guys are still shooting at you. Can't really understand the fun in that. It feels like sloppy game design
Also, i found Chloe and Elena looking really weird. Seem they both went to the digital plastic surgeon. Found them a lot more natural looking in previous games (beside the eyes).
BruceLeeRoy
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linzin said:
It gives you the best puzzles in the series and then promptly ramps up to absolute holy shit levels. To each their own. Truly though I loved the puzzles in UC3, so well done.
DevelopmentArrested said:
Good write up thats pretty much exactly how I feel as well.
Lionel Mandrake
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Just beat it.... That was a hell of a game.
I'm surprised to say it, but I think... U3 > U2 > U1. Loved every minute of it.
I'm surprised to say it, but I think... U3 > U2 > U1. Loved every minute of it.
Net_Wrecker
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BruceLeeRoy said:
Not at all. I enjoy "sandbox shootouts" as much as the next person, but there's no build or pacing to them in Uncharted 3. You hit a point in the game where it's like ND decided, "Ok, let's go batshit crazy with the enemy types now" and you get normal soldiers, armored soldiers, Hammer Bros, RPGs, snipers, and the shotgun rushers in like every single shootout. You'd think that after these huge set pieces that they'd scale back and gradually build to another flustercluck arena, but that's not the case. It's Nathan Drake vs. Everyone every single time.
Example:
You come off wave after wave after wave of annoying enemies in the desert, and go into this epic ass horse back sequence. You'd think there would be a lull, or they'd change enemy logic right after that to let the player come down off that high, but you're thrown right into the sandstorm fight where you've got 2 snipers, multiple Hammer Bros, multiple foot soldiers all rushing you with no regard for their own life, 3 turret trucks in the distance shooting you from God knows where, and more foot soldiers and snipers behind that
On top of that, you're dealing with enemies who don't flinch until the 4th or 5th bullet, and multiple bullet sponges throughout these sections. I'm sorry, but I didn't enjoy them.
The Xtortionist
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BruceLeeRoy said:
The
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Auron_Kale
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The Xtortionist said:
What? That one was easy... Probably my favorite was
the bronze statue
BruceLeeRoy
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The Xtortionist said:
haha that puzzle was fine took 2 seconds to complete.
Auron_Kale said:
That and the
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