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[darkwing]

yup, G4TV's review that the MP is 'tacked on' is more controversial imo

 

[Chaplain]

Are we talking just Subway multi or have you actually played the game?

Both.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

So... how is that OT coming?

 

[Majmun]

I love posts like this. You literally do not know what you're talking about and yet you're happy to make such definitive statements.

The only posts I like better are the ones that suggest the reviewer is biased or that he 'hated' the game to only give it an 8.

Delicious madness.

Well, reviewers seem to point out that U3 is just as good as U2, or even better.

For someone who thinks that U2 is a 10/10 game, chances are big they'll rate the successor just as high as well.

It's still an awkward statement, though.

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

Both.

Ah, perhaps you should get in contact with Simon Perkin and tell him that his opinion is factually incorrect, yes? What an embarrassing error on his part to give the great but not great enough score of 8/10 to the mighty Uncharted 3!

 

[Steve Youngblood]

Only a handful of games during the year truly deliver on all those fronts. So when you see a reviewer throw down an 8/10, or a 4/5, you get the distinct feeling they're trying to make a statement.

Or maybe they just liked the game but didn't like it enough to give it a higher score? I don't really understand what I'm supposed to take away from insight akin to what you've offered. Because from what I can gather, one of two things is true:

A. We can just stop having multiple people review a game. For that matter, we can have one person publish the definitive review before even playing the game, because we can get a general feel for the game's quality before playing it, and there's an objective score that can be assigned to that general feel.

If that seems harsh, let's move on:

B. Once a general consensus begins to emerge, everyone else can just phone it in and give scores that only deviate by two tenths of a percentage point, because clearly anything else is demonstrably wrong as the public has spoken.

Mind you, if the quality of the written text seems dubious, I can understand a certain degree of dissatisfaction with the reviewers ability to offer valid critique. There shouldn't be this much concern about the score, though, unless it just doesn't match up at all. I.E. "This game was one of the worst of the year: 8.5" or "Must play, feel-good game of the year: 5 / 10."

 

[BruiserBear]

What if they truly feel the game is an '8/10' or '4/5'; is it not possible they weren't as overwhelmed as they were with UC2?

I'd rather read an honestly thought out review devoid of all hype mongering and laden with hyperbole. Reviews of that ilk are literally laughable after the fire has settled and things aren't so hot anymore. (see: any GTAIV review)

Sure, it's possible they actually believed the game was an 8/10, or a 4/5. But if they follow this industry closely, and play a lot of games each year, it's just hard to believe. Even an objective observer can see the Uncharted games are doing LOTS of things that few if any other games do in this day and age. It's truly in a league of it's own when it comes to storytelling in games today, and it's game engine is easily one of the best going right now.

Just watching the Uncharted 3 trailer from E3, and you can see the cinematic tone of this game is above and beyond almost any game today.

What I'm really trying to say is this. The sum of Uncharted 3's parts make it worthy of a higher score than an 8/10. Based purely on what I know right now, without having even played the single player campaign, I know this. Anyone reviewing videogames today knows this. Naughty Dog are among the elite of gaming developers today. These same reviewers giving 8's have most certainly given higher scores to games delivering far less than Uncharted 3 does.

 

[SmokyDave]

Both.

So what reason is there that Simon Perkin should've enjoyed it more than he did?

Well, reviewers seem to point out that U3 is just as good as U2, or even better.

For someone who thinks that U2 is a 10/10 game, chances are big they'll rate the successor just as high as well.

Shouldn't have rated U2 as a 10 if it could be surpassed just a couple of years later. Sounds like they fluffed the original score.

Either that, or review scores aren't really all that useful.

 

[SolidSnakex]

I just love all this bickering and trying to discredit an 8/10(a great score, btw).

Why are you getting upset about people trying to discredit a review when you just posted this a few minutes ago?

Chad Concelmo reviews are always hyped up fanboy nonsense. I don't see why we give him any slack when we went to town on Greg Miller's equally bad, 10/10 review

 

[DangerStepp]

I just love all this bickering and trying to discredit an 8/10(a great score, btw). A game NONE OF YOU HAVE EVEN PLAYED, btw. Do you realize how absolutely silly you look when you say things like, "No way is UC3 an 8/10!"

This is G̶a̶m̶e̶F̶A̶Q̶s̶ NeoGAF, dude.

 

[Chinner]

 

[Loudninja]

GamingXP review 95

Uncharted 2: Among Thieves is one of the best PS3 games around, no action-adventure could stand up to it by comparison – until now! Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception combines the good elements of its predecessor with some new, fresh features like the enhanced multiplayer in a stunning setting. The atmosphere and the story really capture the player's interest and will have them lost track of time. A great game – thanks, Naughty Dog.

http://www.gamingxp.com/bericht-520...og_inc.-ps3-uncharted_3_drake_s_deception.htm

Machinima 95

If Uncharted 3 proves anything, it's that Naughty Dog may be the most versatile studio in videogames. Their ability to craft tightly paced cinematic action, lighthearted narratives, endearing characters, and paint it with technical wizardry is unparalleled. Every single aspect of Uncharted 3, including its surprisingly robust multiplayer, is staggeringly well-executed.

http://www.insidegamingdaily.com/2011/10/24/uncharted-3-drakes-deception-review/

 

[jet1911]

I think it's silly to be upset about the Eurogamer score. 8 is perfectly respectable.

The actual text of the review, though, is stupid and boils down to being upset that Uncharted isn't in a genre that the writer likes (or being upset about general trends in gaming).

Yep. Well I don't think the review itself is stupid, surely there are more people like the reviewer who prefer more more options/less hand holding in their games... The series really is like a blockbuster movie and I think you need to have that mindset when you play these games. I personnaly love them but I have no problems understanding what can bother some people.

 

[Mooreberg]

Yes I seen it in this page alone, its and endless cycle.

It is amazing because this is the first game I can think of since Counter-Strike Source where you could play the multiplayer so far ahead of release, and yet "you haven't played it" is the brainless retort in half of the posts.

yup, G4TV's review that the MP is 'tacked on' is more controversial imo

It is not even "controversial" it is just funny that people consider individuals that have spent less time with it than some random person who got a cup at Subway as some beacon of intelligence.

 

[darkwing]

so what should we be angry at? the Eurogamer 8/10 score or the IGN 10/10 one?

yeah, just need some time to kill before the OT

 

[SmokyDave]

It is amazing because this is the first game I can think of since Counter-Strike Source where you could play the multiplayer so far ahead of release, and yet "you haven't played it" is the brainless retort in half of the posts.

This isn't Battlefield we're talking about here, the single player is the real meat of the game for many people.

 

[Loudninja]

so what should we be angry at? the Eurogamer 8/10 score or the IGN 10/10 one?

yeah, just need some time to kill before the OT

Should be angry at all reviews for not going into detail like gamespot did!

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

http://i.imgur.com/jfowU.png

Oh God.

 

[Sneds]

The only posts I like better are the ones that suggest the reviewer is biased or that he 'hated' the game to only give it an 8.

You mean Cliffy B?

We shouldn't expect too much from video game players, when video game creators are equally crazy.

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

What I'm really trying to say is this. The sum of Uncharted 3's parts make it worthy of a higher score than an 8/10. Based purely on what I know right now, without having even played the single player campaign, I know this. Anyone reviewing videogames today knows this. Naughty Dog are among the elite of gaming developers today. These same reviewers giving 8's have most certainly given higher scores to games delivering far less than Uncharted 3 does.

So its objectively a 9/10+ game, no ifs, ands, or buts about it, huh? Anyone who disagrees with that is just...wrong, is that is how it works?

What a glorious thread.

 

[Dr. Malik]

Back to a 94!! get me on my meds!!

 

[Mooreberg]

This isn't Battlefield we're talking about here, the single player is the real meat of the game for many people.

Some of us are not even replying to what the reviews said about single player because - gasp - we haven't played it yet. I'm talking about a completely off the mark evaluation of multiplayer that we have been playing, and going so far as to register our own issues with it in the requisite thread.

 

[Princess Skittles]

Call me whatever name you'd like for saying that, but the fact of the matter is we KNOW Uncharted 3 delivers on those things without even playing it. Naughty Dog has delivered that experienced before, we know they're going to do it again. Now of course there could be disagreements about how great the story is, or how memorable this scene was over one in Uncharted 2, but no one is going to argue right now that Uncharted 3 won't look amazing, run amazingly smooth, play extremely well, and deliver top notch storytelling.

Top notch storytelling?

 

[Pranay]

Updated Thanks Loud Ninja

IGN - 10/10
OPM UK - 10/10
Eurogamer.cz - 10/10
Eurogamer.it (Italy) - 10/10
TheSixthAxis - 10/10
PS Lifestyle - 10/10
Level Magazine - 10/10
GameReactor (Sweden) - 10/10
GameReactor (Finland) - 10/10
IncGamers - 10/10
GameBlog.fr - 10/10
Giant Bomb - 5/5
GamePro - 5/5
Loading - 10/10
Gamefreaks - 10/10
ITavisen.no - 6/6
FZ - 5/5
PSNation: A
Destructoid - 10

Cheat Code Central - 4.9/5
NowGamer - 9.7/10
Vandal (Spain) - 9.6/10
Video Games Zone Germany - 9.3/10.
PS Focus - 9.8
GamingXP - 95
GameTrailers 9.5/10
GameInformer - 9.5/10 .
InsideDailyGaming - 9.5
Play.de - 9.5/10
IGN Germany - 9.5/10
Everyeye.it - 9.5/10
CVG - 9.5/10
1up - A
PSLife.de - 9.5/10
Machinima 95

XGN - 9.4
4Gamers - 9.4
Paste Magazine - 9.1

Jeuxvideo - 9/10
Metro - 9/10
Videogamer - 9/10
NZ Gamer - 9/10
Joystiq - 4.5/5
The Telegraph - 4.5/5
Edge - 9/10
Eurogamer.pt 9/10
GamesRadar - 9/10
GameReactor (Norway) - 9/10
***** - 8.9/10

G4TV/Xplay - 4/5
Eurogamer - 8/10
GamersGlobe - 8/10
GameReactor DK - 8/10
GameReactor (Germany) - 8/10

 

[DangerStepp]

Sure, it's possible they actually believed the game was an 8/10, or a 4/5. But if they follow this industry closely, and play a lot of games each year, it's just hard to believe. Even an objective observer can see the Uncharted games are doing LOTS of things that few if any other games do in this day and age. It's truly in a league of it's own when it comes to storytelling in games today, and it's game engine is easily one of the best going right now.

Just watching the Uncharted 3 trailer from E3, and you can see the cinematic tone of this game is above and beyond almost any game today.

What I'm really trying to say is this. The sum of Uncharted 3's parts make it worthy of a higher score than an 8/10. Based purely on what I know right now, without having even played the single player campaign, I know this. Anyone reviewing videogames today knows this. Naughty Dog are among the elite of gaming developers today. These same reviewers giving 8's have most certainly given higher scores to games delivering far less than Uncharted 3 does.

There's no such thing...unless you meant "outside observer" of the industry.

I'm not disagreeing with how great of a series Uncharted is or how innovative Naughty Dog are at telling a story, etc. I'm simply trying to put the job of a review into perspective for you. Not everyone is going to give it the score you would and if they don't then it's not necessarily to stand out/be different. It's our job as enthusiasts to step back and critically think about why the reviewer feels the way he/she did (that's that that big block of text that accompanies the number is for). A review should give us new ways of thinking about a game or give us new ideas of why we may feel a certain way that we were not privy to in the first place.

I can ascertain from your post that you would indeed give it a 10/10 before playing it.

 

[Chinner]

so far my review for uncharted reviews come at 10/10 its been a thrilling adventure with some highs, some lows, and lots of lube.

 

[SmokyDave]

Some of us are not even replying to what the reviews said about single player because - gasp - we haven't played it yet. I'm talking about a completely off the mark evaluation of multiplayer that we have been playing, and going so far as to register our own issues with it in the requisite thread.

Yeah, sure, you were only talking about off the mark evaluations of multi-player. Sure

 

[Sneds]

Just watching the Uncharted 3 trailer from E3, and you can see the cinematic tone of this game is above and beyond almost any game today.

Cinematic tone isn't objectively a good thing. Some people might not like cinematic tone. Generally, I'm one of those people.

What I'm really trying to say is this. The sum of Uncharted 3's parts make it worthy of a higher score than an 8/10. Based purely on what I know right now, without having even played the single player campaign, I know this. Anyone reviewing videogames today knows this. Naughty Dog are among the elite of gaming developers today. These same reviewers giving 8's have most certainly given higher scores to games delivering far less than Uncharted 3 does.

You are insane in the membrane.

 

[pharmboy044]

OMG!

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

So... how is that OT coming?

This is the OT. You're already in it.

 

[Ricky_R]

Back to a 94!! get me on my meds!!

hahaha

That gif suits the moment so well


About this thread... LAAAARD, I can't believe you guys are still arguing about the same shit. It's like yesterday never happened.

 

[Mooreberg]

Yeah, sure, you were only talking about off the mark evaluations of multi-player. Sure

No, I also mentioned having never heard of "GamersGlobe" which somehow means I'm knocking Eurogamer, despite never once mentioning that site in this thread. Maybe some moron can quote this too and use it to point out how I'm badmouthing another site I never mentioned.

 

[Dabanton]

Wow at this thread haven't really dropped in because i'm on a UC3 media blackout but this thread is really something. And yet again shows that to some gamers the metacritic score is more important than actual enjoyment of the game.

I can only imagine that these scores give them 'bragging rights' in arguments.

 

[Rengoku]

This is the OT. You're already in it.

Its shocking how this thread is almost as big as the Arkham City OT already.

 

[Majmun]

Shouldn't have rated U2 as a 10 if it could be surpassed just a couple of years later. Sounds like they fluffed the original score.

Either that, or review scores aren't really all that useful.

A game can be a personal 10/10. Nothing wrong with that. Everyone has their special games.

 

[Chinner]

this thread is driving me quackers

 

[StuBurns]

At last, UC3 has been liberated from the wicked tyranny of 93.

 

[RooMHM]

Ah, perhaps you should get in contact with Simon Perkin and tell him that his opinion is factually incorrect, yes? What an embarrassing error on his part to give the great but not great enough score of 8/10 to the mighty Uncharted 3!

He should! I mean controversy and debate leads people to actually think about their views and opinion of others no?

GamingXP review 95

http://www.gamingxp.com/bericht-520...og_inc.-ps3-uncharted_3_drake_s_deception.htm

Machinima 95

http://www.insidegamingdaily.com/2011/10/24/uncharted-3-drakes-deception-review/

I love it when review summaries don't even mention the gameplay. Those movies must be fantastic!

 

[Deleted member 81567]

Wait until the GTA V reviews.

 

[SmokyDave]

No, I also mentioned having never heard of "GamersGlobe" which somehow means I'm knocking Eurogamer, despite never once mentioning that site in this thread. Maybe some moron can quote this too and use it to point out how I'm badmouthing another site I never mentioned.

What the fuck is your problem with Destructoid?

 

[plagiarize]

this thread is driving me quackers

i've given up trying to reason with anyone taking pot shots at the low, or high, reviews.

i'm only hanging around here still because i want to know how the game performs in 3D.

actually, i'm still enjoying reading the nonsense, i just haven't the energy left to continue trying to reason with the madness.

this thread broke me.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

This is the OT. You're already in it.

spinning-top-inception.jpg

My mind has just been blown.

 

[EloquentM]

All I see are trolls in this thread now. Funny thing is half of them don't even know it.

 

[Pranay]

He should! I mean controversy and debate leads people to actually think about their views and opinion of others no?


I love it when review summaries don't even mention the gameplay. Those movies must be fantastic!

same applies for eurogamer

 

[Lord Error]

Commence to hoping that the Destructoid reviewer's wife leaves him...

That... was easily the darkest moment in anything I've seen on this forum in a while. I'm glad it didn't last long.

 

[LeonSKennedy90]

All I see are trolls in this thread now. Funny thing is half of them don't even know it.

 

[sleepykyo]

Isn't an eight from Eurogamer actually considered good? It isn't like Eurogamer works on a 7-10 scale.

 

[spekkeh]

I was one of those that nerd raged quite a bit about Gerstmann's 8.8 back in the day. After finishing the game I thought an 8.8 was a bit on the generous side however. Game criticism has matured somewhat recently, and I see this fallout as people that haven't gotten on with the time. We're all fine and dandy when a great movie gets a 80% on rottentomatoes (NB that's 20% of the critics giving the movie a 5/10 or lower), but when one game critic says a game is simply great instead of excellent, this is supposedly a dissenting opinion of a prick that only does it for the page views.

 

[Pranay]

Isn't an eight from Eurogamer actually considered good? It isn't like Eurogamer works on a 7-10 scale.

its the content rather then the score honestly

 

[DangerStepp]

That... was easily the darkest moment in anything I've seen on this forum in a while. I'm glad it didn't last long.

Wait, what?! I missed this. Explain.