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Uncharted 4 street date broken as thieves steal copies
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ViewtifulJC
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And you guys thought I was joking with that post earlier
UC2:
+Better level design
+Better combat design
+Better sound design
+More variety in locales and ideas
+Better graphics
+Better multiplayer
-No Eddy Raja
Grade: C-, definitely worse than Drake's Fortune tbh
brandonh83
Banned
For me the gameplay wasn't that much better and this is obviously a case of having a differing opinion-- you're putting your opinions onto my personal tastes. Who's being extreme? I didn't say Uncharted 2 was a shit game because the villain sucked, I'm saying that it definitely brought it down for me a notch because I think things like this should have memorable villains; there's no excuse. A pulp-inspired hero vs. villain story needs an antagonist as strong as its protagonist.
Clearly you weigh things differently than I do. That's cool. I also get that most people put Uncharted 2 on a pedestal. That's cool too. It's just that I don't, though I think it's a great game and the best of the series so far. What I think about Uncharted 1 vs. Uncharted 2 has fucking nothing to do with Eddy Raja. But is he a more interesting character than Lazarevic? Well, not a tall order, really.
Lys Skygge
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Eh, I personally think it's aged well. Its a bit more arcady which is what I really like about it.
RedRedSuit
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Again, though, the Elena relationship is explored in 4-relevant ways in 3. There are touching cut scenes and an entire level with her. Sure, he could YouTube it, but why skip an A-level game?
There are tons of very enjoyable action sequences starting with the ship graveyard. It's BEFORE the ship graveyard that the game has far too many ultra-linear sections with insufficient action. The game really unfolds, as an action game, with the graveyard and on. Don't get me wrong, I'm still not a fan of the battle design compared to 2, but it's good. People need to play it.
Well, that's an opinion.
brandonh83
Banned
Yes, that's precisely what I'm saying.
Waldo Lydecker
Member
I really don't get the uc3 hate...
People that hate uc3 for the lack of Elena seem to forget that uc3 is about Drake and Sully.
Also, the ship graveyard is awesome. Awesome!
People that hate uc3 for the lack of Elena seem to forget that uc3 is about Drake and Sully.
Also, the ship graveyard is awesome. Awesome!
Lys Skygge
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Also, Lazarevic > Eddie.
Fancy Clown
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1. She's a manipulator so it makes sense she would try to turn them against each other. Her mistake was underestimating Drake and Sully's relationship, which speaks to her own trust issues and cold relationships. Of course it doesn't work, but I don't see how that's bad writing.
2. Talbot is one giant wasted opportunity no doubt about it. Worst villain in the series.
3. I thought the handling of Elena was great. It shows her growth. Between each game you can see her maturing more and more and the more time she spends with Drake she sees he's doing it more as a compulsion and for himself. She knows the value of relationships and Drake's constant adventuring and need to prove himself would be extremely damaging to a relationship.
4. Chloe was never a save the world type of gal so I could see her not wanting to get into another globetrotting adventure again. She acted more as a foil for Drake. If she's out of the game then Drake must really be nuts for doing this.
2. Talbot is one giant wasted opportunity no doubt about it. Worst villain in the series.
3. I thought the handling of Elena was great. It shows her growth. Between each game you can see her maturing more and more and the more time she spends with Drake she sees he's doing it more as a compulsion and for himself. She knows the value of relationships and Drake's constant adventuring and need to prove himself would be extremely damaging to a relationship.
4. Chloe was never a save the world type of gal so I could see her not wanting to get into another globetrotting adventure again. She acted more as a foil for Drake. If she's out of the game then Drake must really be nuts for doing this.
Let's not kid ourselves, we are all pressing square.
Damn straight
brandonh83
Banned
I'm pressing triangle because Eddy Raja
ViewtifulJC
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I gotta say, Drake looks like such a douche in UC2 with that 5 o clock shadow
like he's actually getting remarkably more handsome with every new entry
like he's actually getting remarkably more handsome with every new entry
Let's not kid ourselves, we are all pressing square.
Nathan Drake is the most handsome male video game character. And he just gets more handsome with better graphics.
Primethius
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Some of those are actual issues but I don't really consider #3 to be problematic. She seemed to have settled down and it made sense to me. In fact, that's kind of what we're getting in UC4 as well.
And even with those issues, I enjoyed 3's story more. It had some really fantastic moments that overshadowed those issues. Where as UC1 was just largely kind of a serviceable if at times fun romp.
Maybe this is all a product of when people played the games. I played the UC series after having played and fallen in love with TLOU. So I don't really have a lot of good things to say about UC1 anyways. And most of my experience with the game was utter frustration as to how poorly the game had aged. The story was just kind of basic and there, taking a backseat to the outdated gameplay.
Fancy Clown
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Even Sam lookin pretty rugged and sexy smokin that cig. I bet he's jealous as fuck about how hunky younger brother is tho
Harry Flynn tho. Best villain in the series so far
Harry Flynn tho. Best villain in the series so far
mrqs
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Uncharted 1~2~3 story isn't what strong about those games. I had never played Uncharted before, after TLOU i became a fan of Naughty Dog as a developer, so when Uncharted Trilogy Remastered came out i jumped right in and played it in maybe a weekend.
Was deeply disappointed for all the hype i've heard, it had cool set pieces but what made me fall in love with TLOU wasn't there. Charecters, story and narrative in general was so, so weak. It had some amazing visuals but everything was shallow, just many storypoints that never spoked with each other making the game not that good.
I believe Neil Druckmann had a really powerful effect on Naughty Dog that's why Uncharted 4 was such a hyped game for me. Neil really cares about story, what's happening and how they tell it. Really knows how to make characters and how they will grow during the game.
Was deeply disappointed for all the hype i've heard, it had cool set pieces but what made me fall in love with TLOU wasn't there. Charecters, story and narrative in general was so, so weak. It had some amazing visuals but everything was shallow, just many storypoints that never spoked with each other making the game not that good.
I believe Neil Druckmann had a really powerful effect on Naughty Dog that's why Uncharted 4 was such a hyped game for me. Neil really cares about story, what's happening and how they tell it. Really knows how to make characters and how they will grow during the game.
Kölsch Bloot
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Let's not kid ourselves, we are all pressing square.
I might be pressing X.
But only because I played that back in 2011 whilst I caught up on 1 and 2 in 2014. By that time I had heard so much about 2 that it somewhat dampened my experience.
ViewtifulJC
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probably cuz he's secretly Troy Baker
speaking of, Elena has never looked more like Emily Rose than she does now
I wonder how Nolan North feels that the older his character gets, the more Zoolander-esque "really really really good-looking" his character gets
YankeeDonB
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I gotta say, Drake looks like such a douche in UC2 with that 5 o clock shadow
Earwax sniffing habit aside, I've got to agree that they've done a good job at making him look less douchey without really making him look different.
brandonh83
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IIRC he had a pretty boring arc and didn't really go anywhere. Some of the writing in the series isn't on-point, 2 included. He was fine while he was there but I keep even forgetting he was in the game. 2 and 3 were I think a bit too overstuffed with pointless characters.
This is why I give Drake's Fortune a 14/10 and Among Thieves a 2/10.
100% agree
U3 is especially weak imo, like others have said. I can't remember a thing about it
MiamiWesker
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This place has gone nuts, U1 over 3? U3 has way way way better gameplay and incredible highs, the best in the series. Pacing is off and it feels disjointed so it's not as good as 2 but easily better than 1.
Chalupa Batman
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AKyemeni ftw! My copy arrives Tuesday! Major kudos! I'll try not to kick your ass too bad in multiplayer...for the first week.
zsynqx, why are you posting spoiler dialogue trees? Come on son.
To everyone else, Uncharted 1's campaign is GOAT. Uncharted 2 is the best game overall because of its GOAT multiplayer, but the story, setting, and characters in 1 is unrivaled. You spend the entire game on the island and as a result it adds so much depth to the game. It's also the one that feels most pulpy and most like Indian Jones. Compare that to 2 and 3 where you're globetrotting around and it's just not the same. For people who prefer 1 to 2 and 3, this is the reason why. Yes, 2 and 3 improved on the gameplay mechanics and set pieces, but the tightness of 1's story makes for a more compelling game. Please understand that I'm not bashing 2 or 3--they're also in my top-5 all-time. But when I rank this series, that's how I rank them.
zsynqx, why are you posting spoiler dialogue trees? Come on son.
To everyone else, Uncharted 1's campaign is GOAT. Uncharted 2 is the best game overall because of its GOAT multiplayer, but the story, setting, and characters in 1 is unrivaled. You spend the entire game on the island and as a result it adds so much depth to the game. It's also the one that feels most pulpy and most like Indian Jones. Compare that to 2 and 3 where you're globetrotting around and it's just not the same. For people who prefer 1 to 2 and 3, this is the reason why. Yes, 2 and 3 improved on the gameplay mechanics and set pieces, but the tightness of 1's story makes for a more compelling game. Please understand that I'm not bashing 2 or 3--they're also in my top-5 all-time. But when I rank this series, that's how I rank them.
Wait are people getting copies early now? Where? What distributors?
UK here
What the fuck
Uncharted 2 is so many leagues above DF it's not even funny. The gameplay in 2 is god-tier, particularly on Crushing.
DF is still great, but 2 is the bomb (until UC4 drops...)
UK here
What the fuck
Uncharted 2 is so many leagues above DF it's not even funny. The gameplay in 2 is god-tier, particularly on Crushing.
DF is still great, but 2 is the bomb (until UC4 drops...)
brandonh83
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I was hoping the obvious sarcasm would be obvious.
Fancy Clown
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He was so much more developed than Raja and had a ton more presence in the game. His arc was great too, he was the "if Drake were stupid" explorer, and constantly had to try and make himself seem like a big dude carrying a desert eagle, trying to steal Drake's girl, always putting him down even though he's a dummy, and then he goes out refusing to allow himself to be redeemed because he's a jealous, vindictive, cunt. It was great.
Eddy Raja was fun, but he was in like 3 scenes.
Ah.
This thread has been way too crazy. Any other thread and I would have chuckled.
all uncharted games have incredibly shallow gameplay imo. what do you like about uncharteds gameplay?
TLOU was a huge step in the right direction for actually playing the game
MegaSackman
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I don't understand why people mention Lazarevic Vs Eddi Raja, Harry Flynn fills that role and much better for me. Lazarevic is the Roman's version of Uncharted 2, slightly better too.
I can't think how anyone can think (sic) that Uncharted 1 has better villains, the whole series has average to lame villains.
A guy on the previous page confirmed that distributors in America were shipping the game to retailers now.
Whether they've started elsewhere who knows but I hope so.
brandonh83
Banned
I guess I'm just saying he didn't really leave much of an impact on me or the story. Like if you took him out I'm not sure what would change that much maybe apart from the intro. By arc I mean, his character didn't really end up contributing to much IMO. Eddy wasn't meant to be a big character, just mostly there for humor but at least he died and they didn't have him weaving in and out of the story as if he were there for grander importance.
Waldo Lydecker
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I also don't get the UC1 jet-ski hate...
RedRedSuit
Member
I just played through it. It sucks! It looks pretty. You have to move, which is okay. Then you get attacked or see barrels. You have to stop and shoot, basically before you get shot yourself... you can't dodge. It's not like it involves dodging and shooting at the same time, which would make it worthwhile. Once done, you move again. It feels completely restricted and awkward, much less natural than regular moving around and shooting. So it adds nothing gameplay-wise and only subtracts!
brandonh83
Banned
The jetski stuff was pretty fun for me. I found a rhythm in it.
brickarts295
Member
Let's not kid ourselves, we are all pressing square.
X seems to me like the most hard to believe story in my opinion. I'd like to see Sam's reaction to that one.
Will go to stores tomorrow and hopefully I find a copy >.>
I mean, Shambhala is the only name that I recognize so yeah.
UN2 is just that memorable.
Let's not kid ourselves, we are all pressing square.
I mean, Shambhala is the only name that I recognize so yeah.
UN2 is just that memorable.
brandonh83
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I mean, it'd be ludicrous to have a slightly differing personal opinion.
Though I'm not sure who said Eddy was the best villain in the series. My favorite was Navarro.
MegaSackman
Member
Triangle and X are related to the idea that Drake is his ancestor so any of those are logical to me characterwise speaking.
Fancy Clown
Member
I don't think Flynn was meant to have grand importance, I think he was just there as a foil for Drake, showing the more conniving, cowardly, selfish side of being a thief, so that there's a better barometer in a dramatic sense for Drake's choices to ultimately be more noble.
Plus ya know the whole title "Among Thieves", Flynn is a big part of that
Nice.
First I'm gonna do is play a game in the multiplayer, then check the single player on hard difficulty.
brandonh83
Banned
Sure. I don't dislike Flynn, he was funny, there was good banter.
It's the one that struck me first......because it was the first uncharted game I played. I actually liked the first one and it was much more fun with the gameplay tweaks in the remaster.
But I would love to see him react to shambalah or the pillars
That's from the first game? if so then it's because I didn't like UN1 much adn found it very forgettable for the most part. did it even have one crazy set piece? I only remember that scary section with those RE like monsters
at least that's how I remember them lol.
PLASTICA-MAN
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Let's not kid ourselves, we are all pressing square.
I always wished this will happen, I even tweeted ND about this idea: when this selection shows up: if Uncharted 4 is digitally downloaded and so is Uncharted Collection if you own it ( it can work by swapping disks too), You click one of the option or one by one in order and you start playing the older games as if Nathan was telling his brother Sam about his past adventures like a memory that you play. If Uncharted 4 finds out that you don't own the collection or that you finished one of the adventures or all, this slection scene ends and there is no need to play the past games. It would be just perfect in terms of story telling for those who got both Uncharted 4 and Uncharted Collection but never played the series. This is something akin to Kojima touch in MGS games or saves carrying scenario between Witcher games and Mass Effect games.
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