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[Alex]

I finally got through a run of this game, so I should be safe to hang out here now, right? This game's incredible! I mean, I know some people are overselling it, but if sites like IGN are barely acknowledging it, I can understand why people want to get the word out..

That's how most PC games get sold in general: word of mouth, it is very powerful on this platform. You rarely see any coverage from big sites it's largely just streamers and people talkin'. It's how these completely random ass games on Steam get pushed to 500k-1m++ all the time. Won't be surprised if this thing completely bursts into flames at the first sale it's in.

I dunno about best game ever, but if I had a list (I don't) it'd be pretty high up. Undertale is probably, for me, one the first games of this type that not only manages to not feel like some fan clone but genuinely supersedes a lot of what inspired it and I grew up heavily with those games. Feels like something some people needed right now. A game that really gets that old soul retro JRPG kinda gig done up right but also manages to bring modern appeal and more biting, creative aspect so it can actually remain interesting. It has that simple timeless effect that Mother has which is the greatest link between the games, I think.

Also, thank god for brevity. In a time where I am weighed down to the ground with huge games, especially as a perennial RPG/MMO nerd I greatly appreciate that I was able to run a full completion on this game in about 20 total hours. Unless you have a very good game-y RPG I personally appreciate the lack of padding.

 

[Green Mamba]

Drew a stupid Undertale thing that ended up taking way more time than I anticipated:

"MRW someone online says Mew Mew Kissy Cutie 2 is better than Mew Mew Kissy Cutie 1"

 

[PK Gaming]

Drew a stupid Undertale thing that ended up taking way more time than I anticipated:

LOL

I love everything about that image

 

[OniBarubary]

Drew a stupid Undertale thing that ended up taking way more time than I anticipated:

Oh my god you're awesome

 

[ispendtoomuchmoneyongames]

Doing a pacifism run for my first, avoiding spoilers other than reading reviews and seeing "you probably shouldn't kill anyone". I made it to Muffet no problem but with minimal healing items I am struggling greatly against her. Honestly thinking about resetting my game and keeping the Spider Donut from the beginning as I looked for tips against her and saw that.

 

[TheSlySoul]

Doing a pacifism run for my first, avoiding spoilers other than reading reviews and seeing "you probably shouldn't kill anyone". I made it to Muffet no problem but with minimal healing items I am struggling greatly against her. Honestly thinking about resetting my game and keeping the Spider Donut from the beginning as I looked for tips against her and saw that.

She is possible, but bribing her pet is the best way. Hardest boss.

 

[Fat4all]

Doing a pacifism run for my first, avoiding spoilers other than reading reviews and seeing "you probably shouldn't kill anyone". I made it to Muffet no problem but with minimal healing items I am struggling greatly against her. Honestly thinking about resetting my game and keeping the Spider Donut from the beginning as I looked for tips against her and saw that.

You could just go back and buy some Bicicles from Snowden, you can still win without the donut. You can farm for money in the Waterfall area if you need dosh.

 

[OniBarubary]

Or you could kill her

 

[KevinCow]

I have a question.

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I hear that if you do a genocide run and then try to do a pacifist run, something bad will happen. Can anyone tell me what exactly happens? I don't plan on ever doing it myself but I'm really curious.

 

[Green Mamba]

Thanks for the comments guys.

I have a question.

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I hear that if you do a genocide run and then try to do a pacifist run, something bad will happen. Can anyone tell me what exactly happens? I don't plan on ever doing it myself but I'm really curious.

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It's highly implied that the original human destroys everything you hold dear. The Pacifist ending plays out normally, but with an important change right at the end. If you chose to stay with Toriel, Frisk is suddenly replaced by the original human when Toriel leaves the room in something of a jump scare. If you said you had places to go the picture in the end of Frisk and all of their friends is changed to a picture of the original human with the same friends but with big ugly red x's over their faces.

 

[Permanently A]

Dodger is doing a genocide run oh my god I can't wait to see her reactions I hope she hasn't been spoiled too much

 

[mbpm1]

She is possible, but bribing her pet is the best way. Hardest boss.

Is it just me that

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didn't have problems with Muffet's pet itself? I mostly got tripped up by the parts with a lot of "boomeranging" items that went back and forth or the ones that had those diagonal bouncing things.

 

[Fat4all]

Is it just me that

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didn't have problems with Muffet's pet itself? I mostly got tripped up by the parts with a lot of "boomeranging" items that went back and forth or the ones that had those diagonal bouncing things.

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Croissants and Donuts.

 

[mbpm1]

I have no words for this remix.

 

[K.Sabot]

Dodger is doing a genocide run oh my god I can't wait to see her reactions I hope she hasn't been spoiled too much

yeah watched the end of the dodger run, always hate when chat spoils the genocide route at the very end

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aka they all spam WAIT 10 MINUTES, the game is perfect if you stop playing the game without knowing that too.

 

[Jintor]

i understand she's been getting dunked on for like 5 hours straight

 

[Permanently A]

i understand she's been getting dunked on for like 5 hours straight

8

 

[Puruzi]

Or you could kill her

leave and never return

 

[mbpm1]

i understand she's been getting dunked on for like 5 hours straight

That's determination.

 

[Jintor]

internet viewership fills you with
D E T E R M I N A T I O N

 

[Jelly Rajah]

This game is so damn sweet.

Is Snowdin supposed to be a reference to Edward Snowden? Especially considering all the surveillance cameras in the area.

 

[Feep]

This game is so damn sweet.

Is Snowdin supposed to be a reference to Edward Snowden? Especially considering all the surveillance cameras in the area.

Uh...I think it's just "Snowed In".

 

[GoldStarz]

Especially considering all the surveillance cameras in the area.

Have you made it to Hotland yet?

Or you could kill her

Flowey, is that you? When did you get

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opposable appendages

a gaf account?

 

[Earthpainting]

Is Snowdin supposed to be a reference to Edward Snowden? Especially considering all the surveillance cameras in the area.

Now you're making me wonder if there are more cameras hidden in the later areas of the game. I know there's one at the entrance of the snowy area, and there's one at the start of the waterwall, but I don't think I've found a hidden camera after that. They are implied to still exist, since Alphys has you on her monitor in her own lab, and Mettaton is on air during his encounters.

 

[Teknoman]

I have no words for this...what I think is or was the final boss encounter. That face...

EDIT: So do I have to reset to go for True Pacifist after just beating with a normal pacifist? Or can I just load the save and backtrack to get whatever I need for truth pacifist?

 

[BrawlPurist]

I have no words for this...what I think is or was the final boss encounter. That face...

EDIT: So do I have to reset to go for True Pacifist after just beating with a normal pacifist? Or can I just load the save and backtrack to get whatever I need for truth pacifist?

I think you oughtta go hang out with your friends. I mean, you can't just bail on them without saying "goodbye" first.

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Go hang out with anyone you haven't hung out with yet. If you've hung out with everyone, well, just backtrack a bit, you'll see.

]; )

 

[MrBadger]

Has anybody posted this metal cover of Death By Glamour yet? Incredible stuff

Also my favourite battle and theme in the game

 

[XaosWolf]

Man FUCK the Genocide run. Sans is some next level memory test bullshit.

The other paths are absolutely fantastic, but keeping a character they tease about hidden behind such a boss and then taunting you for both doing it and not doing it is on the same level as Spec Ops: The Line. =/

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I had a bad time...

 

[Stone Ocean]

Look at the bright side, you get to listen to Megalovania a lot

 

[Jintor]

Man FUCK the Genocide run. Sans is some next level memory test bullshit.

The other paths are absolutely fantastic, but keeping a character they tease about hidden behind such a boss and then taunting you for both doing it and not doing it is on the same level as Spec Ops: The Line. =/

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I had a bad time...

I think it's a lot better on that front than Spec Ops tbh

Also, really, he's difficult for a reason.

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He has to be... he has to beat you every time, but you only have to beat him once.

S A V E

 

[MrBadger]

Man FUCK the Genocide run. Sans is some next level memory test bullshit.

The other paths are absolutely fantastic, but keeping a character they tease about hidden behind such a boss and then taunting you for both doing it and not doing it is on the same level as Spec Ops: The Line. =/

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I had a bad time...

Hey, if you're not up to the task you can always just watch the ending on Youtube

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I've still not beaten Undyne the Undying

 

[Dimmle]

I think it's a lot better on that front than Spec Ops tbh

Also, really, he's difficult for a reason.

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He has to be... he has to beat you every time, but you only have to beat him once.

S A V E

pretty much this

 

[dock]

I'd like to play through this some time, but I hated plenty of the demo.

Are there any good walkthroughs to minimise time wasting and frustration?

What is the easiest way through the game?


(edit: please don't reply with shitty references. 'show determination' etc etc)

 

[Saikyo]

If you hated the demo then go see a lets play like the Joel one.

 

[jonjonaug]

I'd like to play through this some time, but I hated plenty of the demo.

Are there any good walkthroughs to minimise time wasting and frustration?

What is the easiest way through the game?


(edit: please don't reply with shitty references. 'show determination' etc etc)

The whole game is a straight line, and it gets a lot more interesting after where the demo ends.

 

[Dimmle]

I'd like to play through this some time, but I hated plenty of the demo.

Are there any good walkthroughs to minimise time wasting and frustration?

What is the easiest way through the game?


(edit: please don't reply with shitty references. 'show determination' etc etc)

Could you describe what you found to be frustrating or a waste of time?

 

[Thulius]

What is the easiest way through the game?

Easiest way through the game is to just play it. It's entirely linear and there isn't a whole lot to get stuck on outside of a few of the tougher bosses. Hard to suggest without knowing what your problems with the demo are.

 

[Windom Earle]

This game is cool and charming, I just don't like how linear it is. Does that change?

Also I am at the piano now. WTF is the "right" way of dealing with that

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dog

? XD

 

[TheSlySoul]

This game is cool and charming, I just don't like how linear it is. Does that change?

Also I am at the piano now. WTF is the "right" way of dealing with that

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dog

? XD

Not really, game is pretty linear. You got 3 optional things you can do to get the True Ending, but otherwise it seems point A to B. It is a game to be played for story.

 

[dock]

Could you describe what you found to be frustrating or a waste of time?

Elements that felt like a waste of time:
- s l o o o o w text boxes. I later learned there's a method to auto-fill these boxes.
- Lots of random battles,
- no text feedback even if I was choosing the correct action,
- bullet hell dodging often felt entirely random. sometimes really hard, sometimes trivial, because movement and position was random rather than any sort of pattern or system.

There seems to be some nice ideas in there but I dread playing it. I ended up playing the demo twice, as I ditched it midway through the first time.

It's entirely linear and there isn't a whole lot to get stuck on outside of a few of the tougher bosses.

Plenty of people get stuck on this game.
Usually met by the 'oh, but it was easy for me (you suck)'

 

[JonathanNemo]

I'm guessing folks complaining about how linear the game is haven't tried going back to replay bits to see what happens when you kill some things.

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The consequences aren't exactly immediately apparent.

Or genocide run. That's... quite different!

 

[Windom Earle]

I'm guessing folks complaining about how linear the game is haven't tried going back to replay bits to see what happens when you kill some things.

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The consequences aren't exactly immediately apparent.

Or genocide run. That's... quite different!

I am ok with the game being linear, I just expected it to be a bit more "traditional" RPG (having a world map, etc.) style. But Undertale is everything but traditional, so I guess that's my fault. Still liking it a lot though.

 

[Saikyo]

Its not a rpg for you dock sadly, there are a few skips with items like

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eating spider food in Muffet battle or using the stick with some dogs battle

and the boss from Snowdin

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give you an option to skip of you lose this battle 3 times

but its not enough.

 

[Thulius]

Elements that felt like a waste of time:
- s l o o o o w text boxes. I later learned there's a method to auto-fill these boxes.
- Lots of random battles,
- no text feedback even if I was choosing the correct action,
- bullet hell dodging often felt entirely random. sometimes really hard, sometimes trivial, because movement and position was random rather than any sort of pattern or system.

- Understandable, random battles are really bad in the ruins. They slow down a lot afterwards.
- If you're referring to sparing enemies, there's actually always some kind of feedback. Basically, if dialogue repeats you aren't making progress. If an enemy's name is yellow, they can be spared. Other than that, there are no "correct" choices to worry about.
- Some enemy patterns are randomized, but rarely (if ever?) unavoidable. Even then, it's not like you take one hit and die. Just remember to keep a stock of healing items.

Plenty of people get stuck on this game.
Usually met by the 'oh, but it was easy for me (you suck)'

Like I said, there are some tough bosses, but the spots people get stuck on typically aren't things a walkthrough would help with.

 

[dock]

Its not a rpg for you dock sadly, there are a few skips with items like

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eating spider food in Muffet battle or using the stick with some dogs battle

and the boss from Snowdin

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give you an option to skip of you lose this battle 3 times

but its not enough.

ah. :/ I guess I won't play then. Thanks for letting me know.

shame it relies so heavily on twitchy dodging, that was the main thing stopping me.

 

[The Shadow Knight]

Doing a pacifism run for my first, avoiding spoilers other than reading reviews and seeing "you probably shouldn't kill anyone". I made it to Muffet no problem but with minimal healing items I am struggling greatly against her. Honestly thinking about resetting my game and keeping the Spider Donut from the beginning as I looked for tips against her and saw that.

Muffet can be tricky,

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but trying to be on the center thread as much as possible and only dodging by going up and down makes her regular attacking turns pretty doable.

You could just go back and buy some Bicicles from Snowden, you can still win without the donut. You can farm for money in the Waterfall area if you need dosh.

Bicicles though...

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I'm not sure how expensive they are at that point in the game, as they just keep going up in price as you progress.

 

[meltingparappa]

I really do think the game is slightly past the cusp of being "too hard."

There are scores of friends I want to recommend the game to, but most of them seize up just looking at snowdin dog fights, much less actually having to play them.

Especially if he one day brings the game to console or handheld, I hope he finds a graceful way to let some people just go on sexy skeleton dates without having to cry in despair over never being able to get past a certain point.

 

[dock]

I really do think the game is slightly past the cusp of being "too hard."

There are scores of friends I want to recommend the game to, but most of them seize up just looking at snowdin dog fights, much less actually having to play them.

Especially if he one day brings the game to console or handheld, I hope he finds a graceful way to let some people just go on sexy skeleton dates without having to cry in despair over never being able to get past a certain point.

It's a relief to see someone in this thread acknowledge that the game has some sticking points.

 

[spindashing]

Damn,

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Undyne on genocide

is fucking impossible

...I deserve this.

Yeah. I got up to this and just gave up. Not built for this, haha. The music is epic as fuck though.

 

[PSqueak]

Drew a stupid Undertale thing that ended up taking way more time than I anticipated:

Is there any online gallery i can follow you at?