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United States Election: Nov 6, 2012 |OT| - Barack Obama Re-elected
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krypt0nian
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Nonsense. If you're in a swing state and your vote could have mattered then voting third party could fuck things up, still with your guy getting single digits. Vote to change, bit to play college boy PolySci feel good games.
If you're not in a swing state, it doesn't matter anyway. Feel good.
Again, push to change how the system works grassroots, locally upwards. Don't waste your time when nothing changes with 5% candidates on a two party ballot.
BobTheFork
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Posted and apparently we're fool for being duped by a fake video. hmm
edible_candle
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Maybe we should spin the discussion of the validity/worthwhileness of voting third party into another thread? I'd do it, but I'm too lazy to make threads and respond to people.
This is true. My statement at the end of my previous post was a bit too absolute/judgmental.
But you chose one that you know will not work. The people around you aren't falsely limiting your choice. Reality is. Johnson isn't going to win. Period. So now one of the other two candidates will win, and you will have had exactly zero say in which one.
Could just be a miscalibrated touch screen... or a fake, as others have said.
Duane Cunningham
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PoweredBySoy
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And none of those other candidates on the ballot are actually 'choices'?
The rest of your post is equally sheep-minded bullshit.
And again I say, what has it really changed? Clinton would have still won. Perot's ideas largely didn't materialize into the mainstream longterm and his party is all but finished.
His model shows us a billionaire can temporarily have an outlier affect to a marginal group of people and in a small area.
I still contend the tea party has it right. Local elections, influence and pressure from within. In the case of establishing third parties that needs to be coupled with a strong push for voting reform laws that make third parties more likely and possible going forward and will allow them sustainability.
Joe Shlabotnik
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"Usefulness" arguments aside, what's brave about anonymously voting for a third party candidate?
green/third party voters, why go out of your way to not matter?? just stay home. and stop bragging about how you just threw away your vote.
like vegans telling people they're vegans. WHO GIVES A SHIT? when you tell me you voted for Jill or whoever, you're just an attention whore. LOOK AT ME I'M SPECIAL I VOTED FOR THE GREEN PARTY.
stop it!
like vegans telling people they're vegans. WHO GIVES A SHIT? when you tell me you voted for Jill or whoever, you're just an attention whore. LOOK AT ME I'M SPECIAL I VOTED FOR THE GREEN PARTY.
stop it!
And what others are posting is just idealist bullshit.
I'm going to keep re-emphasizing this guy's posts. This is what you do. Influence from the bottom up. Trying to sway the highest and hardest office in the land every four years by voting in a party with no infrastructure or support system because it hasn't been voted in anywhere else really is just idealist BS. We have a system in place. Use it.
TheNatural
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And you have?
So that's what it is. You just want to make yourself feel important by saying 'hey those two guys on TV all the time the media told me to choose between I picked one of them, so I made a difference!'
Sounds like a lot of bullshit to make yourself feel significant and a part of something rather than actually effecting the vote.
Get back to me when your state is decided by even a thousand votes, much less one. Otherwise, get off your voting high horse.
FlashFlooder
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What if you wouldn't choose either of the potential winners, for whatever reason?
Everyone just assumes a 3rd party vote is taking a vote away from your 2nd choice guy, but that's not always the case.
krypt0nian
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Save the gas, and and carbon footprint today. That at least is useful.
Crazyorloco
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im seeing "if you don't vote for obama im unfriending you. please put who you are voting for up" on facebook.
for me this is a bit extreme. i love the entertainment though. Tonight I await meltdowns no matter who wins.
for me this is a bit extreme. i love the entertainment though. Tonight I await meltdowns no matter who wins.
I voted for the only candidate that hasn't thoroughly disgusted me over the last decade. I voted for the only one who I think could possibly work.
The Technomancer
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+1 in Minnesota for my man B-Rock "The Shock" and Ol' Uncle Joe
Voting experience was great in this location, amazingly fast and smooth, even during lunch hour. It was at the gay-friendly church a few blocks from my apartment, staffed by nice and attentive people, and my registration took about three minutes from start to finish. When the booths were full they said we could spill over into a sitting room if we didn't mind the lack of privacy.
Voting experience was great in this location, amazingly fast and smooth, even during lunch hour. It was at the gay-friendly church a few blocks from my apartment, staffed by nice and attentive people, and my registration took about three minutes from start to finish. When the booths were full they said we could spill over into a sitting room if we didn't mind the lack of privacy.
If the vote totals was separated by more than 1, technically your vote meant exactly zero.
This guy lol
Not being controled by a two party system. Knowing that in the grand scheme of "usefulness" your vote probably wont matter.
Voting for the person you believe in inspite of all the other bull shit, admirable. A person of conviction.
StopMakingSense
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Fabulous weather for voting in Los Angeles! O +1
heliosRAzi
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Because I'd rather vote for someone I agree with rather than who wins. If I were in a swing state, I would gladly vote for Obama, but since I'm in Texas, voting Dem is just as worthless as voting Green so why not throw them a bone and inch them towards 5% of the popular vote. Also, we have local elections to participate in as well, so we're not going to just stay home.
FlashFlooder
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haha, get off your high horse kid. This is a thread about the election, we're not preaching veganism unsolicited.
TheNatural
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Sounds like more attention whoring from people like you bringing up and crying about who voted what, and pretending that because you voted for one of the two main options, that you're more significant than anyone else when you're not.
SteveWinwood
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lololololol
He's using logic and reasoning to make a point, even if you dont agree with it. you're using character attacks and straw men. Think about that for a minute.
Statistically speaking, voting for a third party candidate is no different than not voting at all.
It's removing a vote from whichever of the two candidates with a chance of winning you would have otherwise voted for.
At the local levels, this is obviously not the case, I'm just referring to national elections.
It's removing a vote from whichever of the two candidates with a chance of winning you would have otherwise voted for.
At the local levels, this is obviously not the case, I'm just referring to national elections.
FlashFlooder
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And for those of us that do, we're going to vote for our guy in the 'big' race. Deal with it.
Good, so I took away a vote from no one.
The crisis was completely manufactured. Increasing the debt ceiling should have been a formality, because no one who holds public office in this country should be so economically illiterate as to actually consider default.
TheNatural
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He's using logic by saying people are attnetion whoring, while I'm using simple 1st grade math to show that no one's single vote matters. Think about that one for a minute. I'm not the one being a keyboard warrior sitting in a thread on a videogame forum lecturing people on how they should vote.
Why would you assume people that don't vote for the dem or rep would vote at all?
Did Obama win yet?
Come back at 8PM EST
Literally, this is exactly my reasoning, though reversed. Probably voting for Johnson...Not sure yet.
SteveWinwood
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I don't see anyone telling anyone else not to vote. I see some people telling others that they're are dumb for voting a certain way. That's just par for the course of political discussion.
polyh3dron
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those damn keyboard warriors ain't about this life
Diprosalic
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nate has florida now for obama?
This only makes sense if both people are absolutely 100% exactly the same. They're not. There are huge differences. Vote for which one of the two would help the country the best. If you can't do this then I question how you get through life, since life presents two seemingly bad options all the fucking time. It's your job to discern which one is better and choose it, if not for you but for someone else or for society as a whole. As I said before MILLIONS of people's healthcare are riding on this election, along with quite a few other big issues. One of these two will be in office next. That is a fact. Do your part to help choose which one of the two.
Frustrated_Grunt
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That's true. How could it be stealing votes when it probably wasn't going to go to the other two guys in the first place?
FlashFlooder
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Again, the crisis (meaning, the fiasco surround it): yes, manufactured. The fact that we are perpetually running up against the debt ceiling is a real (ongoing) crisis.
I'm not assuming that. That's why I said it's statistically the same thing as not voting at all.
The results are the same.
TheNatural
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They gon' get this work.gif
finalboss2
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yea i have no idea either, its definitely more romney now.
ElectricBlue187
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50.3% about as close to tied as you can get
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