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[Pidull]

Inevitably there's always a mix of people cheering on events such as this (remember that submarine implosion?), and people condemning those who would cheer for it.

I always consider Walter Scheidel's book The Great Leveler when it comes to these events and prospects for the future. I see growing wealth inequality as an inevitability until acts like this increase in scope and frequency, simply because human nature dictates that we are all afraid to lose what we have, and the upper class has more capital to effectively protect what they already have. The only thing they value more than their money is their lives.

That's why you see stories of billionaires building bunkers, oo hiring full security teams that cost millions per year. Eventually, any hope of peaceful protest succeeding will be lost, and violent protest will have as much success in developed nations as we saw in Hong Kong.

If you're not doing whatever you can to own the means to production now, your descendants may have a bleak future.

 

[JohnnyPhats]

In the context of "hey, how bout this lady next"?

Yeah, don't do that. A. It's already been posted and B. take the high road on this one.

I hear you. But perhaps these leeches on society should be more concerned about what they’re doing than the people shining light on it. Just a thought

 

[arkhamguy123]

Inevitably there's always a mix of people cheering on events such as this (remember that submarine implosion?), and people condemning those who would cheer for it.

I always consider Walter Scheidel's book The Great Leveler when it comes to these events and prospects for the future. I see growing wealth inequality as an inevitability until acts like this increase in scope and frequency, simply because human nature dictates that we are all afraid to lose what we have, and the upper class has more capital to effectively protect what they already have. The only thing they value more than their money is their lives.

That's why you see stories of billionaires building bunkers, oo hiring full security teams that cost millions per year. Eventually, any hope of peaceful protest succeeding will be lost, and violent protest will have as much success in developed nations as we saw in Hong Kong.

If you're not doing whatever you can to own the means to production now, your descendants may have a bleak future.

Hong Kong didn’t have a right to bear arms populous.

Same random nobody with a silencer like a fucking John wick movie just successfully took out the C.E.O. of a fortune 10 corporation in broad daylight in the middle of the country’s flagship city. This is not something that could happen in China

 

[jason10mm]

That's why you see stories of billionaires building bunkers, oo hiring full security teams that cost millions per year. Eventually, any hope of peaceful protest succeeding will be lost, and violent protest will have as much success in developed nations as we saw in Hong Kong.

There are ways to resolve this without violence and chaos.

We would need to develop a coalition of aligned (on this issue) interests. You'd have folks who want big insurance/big pharma out of politicians pockets, then the folks who want the military/industrial complex out, the energy companies out, etc, so they all band together to force term limits, significant campaign finance reform, and most importantly, a RIGORIOUS and DETAILED code of conduct for lawmakers regarding gifts, investments, handouts, information they can give out to industry, etc.

THEN you would see lawmakers start listening to their actual constituents instead of the $$$ lobbyists and start getting legislation that works for the average joe instead of the corporations. But as it is right now, neither party will allow the other "the win" of a public health care system nor are they interested in uniting on it because all the $$$ is for the status quo.

Betcha if you took away congressional health care and forced them to only use medicaid you would see some changes though

Though I think you could also hit it from the back end by knocking out 90% of the sugar in america, making a concerted effort to endorse physical exercise and wellness, and setting up better tax advantaged health savings accounts so folks can save for themselves. Typical conservative mindset folks like to hear that it requires effort to participate, even if the bar is low, and the liberal types are always down for (almost) free stuff.

 

[sharp weiner]

This whole thing is sad,

They are actually. Why do you think people are cheering his death or saying "Sorry, but not shedding a tear for this guy"? For kicks? In their perverse minds they think it's justice.

America is a for profit system when it comes to healthcare. If people don't like that, move to Canada or something. I've been dicked over by the healthcare system more times than I can count and I've never mocked the death of a healthcare CEO because I'm not a sociopath.

This has nothing to do with justice, it's revenge. And more death doesn't make the world a better place. One can not like the healthcare system here and still be saddened by the loss of life of an innocent person. It's not an either or.

I don’t think that people arent saddened and shocked, they are just feeling something else a bit stronger.

Personally I felt sad for his family, shocked that this happened like a mob hit, and also felt a strange sense of bloodlust like this death is symbolically good and just. And I am kind of struggling with if I should be feeling that last part.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

This is one of the things that as I get older I start to agree with more left leaning people. I wish we had a better solution as the current one is just awful and IMO not sustainable. Just the administrative costs of our current system is something like 30-40%. The system is so bloated right now. I'm not sure what the solution is. I think if we went the universal route it would completely bog everything down. We'd probably need 25-30% more doctors if we went that route which would take a generation to train.

I think you're right that a sudden move to a universal system would be a disaster in terms of the strain it would have on the health service. The US has a very unhealthy society in terms of obesity and chronic disease caused by obesity and this would immediately suck a ton of the available resources.

But a gradual move to a semi-socialised system over a period of time would be better.

For now there should be serious reform, policies and conversations happening to make sure insurance companies are being fairer, ensuring more people can access health through assitance and importantly improving national health through diet and lifestyle changes. All of that in the run up to bigger changes.

 

[JohnnyPhats]

This whole thing is sad,

I don’t think that people arent saddened and shocked, they are just feeling something else a bit stronger.

Personally I felt sad for his family, shocked that this happened like a mob hit, and also felt a strange sense of bloodlust like this death is symbolically good and just. And I am kind of struggling with if I should be feeling that last part.

If you have a heart, then yeah you should be feeling that way. As for his family, while I feel for the kids. Take solace in they will never have to work a day in their lives. Because their dad made generational wealth allowing people to suffer and die.

 

[DragoonKain]

This whole thing is sad,

I don’t think that people arent saddened and shocked, they are just feeling something else a bit stronger.

Personally I felt sad for his family, shocked that this happened like a mob hit, and also felt a strange sense of bloodlust like this death is symbolically good and just. And I am kind of struggling with if I should be feeling that last part.

Of course you shouldn't be. No offense, but if an innocent man being murdered makes you feel like something good or just has been done, then your moral compass has severely fallen off. There is nothing good or just about an innocent man being murdered. He's a human being. If we are indifferent to humans being murdered, then societally, we are in serious trouble.

But there are plenty of people who are not sad. Have you not seen the screenshots in this thread? There are people condemning the data miner who is trying to catch the killer, because they want the murderer to go free. Some are calling him a hero. It's despicable.

 

[delirium trigger]

How did they not catch him within 5 minutes? He was shot in midtown. There's a camera and a cop on like every corner.

 

[JohnnyPhats]

Of course you shouldn't be. No offense, but if an innocent man being murdered makes you feel like something good or just has been done, then your moral compass has severely fallen off. There is nothing good or just about an innocent man being murdered. He's a human being. If we are indifferent to humans being murdered, then societally, we are in serious trouble.

But there are plenty of people who are not sad. Have you not seen the screenshots in this thread? There are people condemning the data miner who is trying to catch the killer, because they want the murderer to go free. Some are calling him a hero. It's despicable.

Have you looked up the definition of innocent? Here. I’ll help you.
in·no·cent
adjective

1. 1.
   not guilty of a crime or offense.
   "the arbitrary execution of an innocent man"
   
   
2. 2.
   not responsible for or directly involved in an event yet suffering its consequences.
   "an innocent bystander"

He is not an innocent man. Fuck him.

 

[DragoonKain]

Have you looked up the definition of innocent? Here. I’ll help you.
in·no·cent
adjective

1. 1.
   not guilty of a crime or offense.
   "the arbitrary execution of an innocent man"
   
   
2. 2.
   not responsible for or directly involved in an event yet suffering its consequences.
   "an innocent bystander"

He is not an innocent man. Fuck him.

You don't know anything about this man, you just heard of him yesterday, yet somehow you hate him. That says more about how fucked up your moral compass is than it says about him.

He's done nothing worthy of being murdered in cold blood on the street. You just have an anger problem you need to take care of.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Tweet 'Not Found'.

 

[JohnnyPhats]

You don't know anything about this man, you just heard of him yesterday, yet somehow you hate him. That says more about how fucked up your moral compass is than it says about him.

He's done nothing worthy of being murdered in cold blood on the street. You just have an anger problem you need to take care of.

You're right. The CEO of an health insurer has zero culpability in the deny deny deny culture. Silly me. Like what does this doctor know?

 

[DeafTourette]

People say it's different to cheer for bin Laden's murder because he indirectly killed 2k Americans than it is to cheer for a hitman who directly killed a CEO. Murder is murder. It should never be celebrated!

I meant to say:

"People say it's different to cheer for bin Laden's murder because he indirectly killed *3k+ Americans than it is to cheer for the murder of a CEO who indirectly killed thousands of Americans. Murder is murder. It should never be celebrated!"

Bin Laden gave the order. This CEO implemented an AI. Neither "pulled the trigger" but they're both responsible.

The CEO wasn't innocent... Just because he didn't directly say he wanted people to die doesn't absolve him of the harm his policies caused to the people GIVING him money.

I don't condone murder no matter who it's visited upon. Jesus taught us better than that.

*Thanks for the correction of how many died on 9/11

 

[rm082e]

How did they not catch him within 5 minutes? He was shot in midtown. There's a camera and a cop on like every corner.

If the cop nearest to him didn't catch him and he managed to get a few blocks away, that's a major setback for the cops. Now they have a manhunt on their hands, but in order to do that, they need either direct information on the shooters location, or they need name and photo to release wide and hope someone sends in a tip.

If the shooter had a well thought-out exit plan, he could have been out of the city in what, a couple of hours? If they can't announce his name and picture (if they still don't know who he is), and he made it out of the city, that would make the whole process a lot harder.

Not that I'm rooting for a murderer here, but this case is going to be a much bigger deal if the shooter manages to get away with it. If they figure out who it is, blast his name & photo and he's caught within a few days, this story will fade away in a couple of weeks.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Very sloppy of this guy. Odds of him being caught just went from 5% to 50%

How do we know it's a guy

Lookin a little femmy or, as they say, "light in the loafers" to me

 

[JohnnyPhats]

If the cop nearest to him didn't catch him and he managed to get a few blocks away, that's a major setback for the cops. Now they have a manhunt on their hands, but in order to do that, they need either direct information on the shooters location, or they need name and photo to release wide and hope someone sends in a tip.

If the shooter had a well thought-out exit plan, he could have been out of the city in what, a couple of hours? If they can't announce his name and picture (if they still don't know who he is), and he made it out of the city, that would make the whole process a lot harder.

Not that I'm rooting for a murderer here, but this case is going to be a much bigger deal if the shooter manages to get away with it. If they figure out who it is, blast his name & photo and he's caught within a few days, this story will fade away in a couple of weeks.

And add to that a public that has been profoundly fucked over by this scumbag and his ilk. Good luck

 

[JohnnyPhats]

How do we know it's a guy

Lookin a little femmy or, as they say, "light in the loafers" to me

I'd say his actions indicate cast iron balls.

 

[arkhamguy123]

If the cop nearest to him didn't catch him and he managed to get a few blocks away, that's a major setback for the cops. Now they have a manhunt on their hands, but in order to do that, they need either direct information on the shooters location, or they need name and photo to release wide and hope someone sends in a tip.

If the shooter had a well thought-out exit plan, he could have been out of the city in what, a couple of hours? If they can't announce his name and picture (if they still don't know who he is), and he made it out of the city, that would make the whole process a lot harder.

Not that I'm rooting for a murderer here, but this case is going to be a much bigger deal if the shooter manages to get away with it. If they figure out who it is, blast his name & photo and he's caught within a few days, this story will fade away in a couple of weeks.

Used to live in NJ. I could be from roughly where the assassination was to my apartment in under an hour.

Granted no car for this guy but yeah very ephemeral time to exit the city and once out of the city that’s bye bye

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

I'm not for murdering people in the streets (unless they are Putin like figures), but I understand why this guy got shot and I hope it's a warning to all the bosses as scummy companies like his.

 

[DragoonKain]

You're right. The CEO of an health insurer has zero culpability in the deny deny deny culture. Silly me. Like what does this doctor know?

1. He's a CEO of a large company. Lots of people and things go into these decisions. He doesn't just sit at a desk and reject these claims by himself, not how it works. All healthcare companies do this and reject a lot of claims. I just got a rejection letter for a medication that is vital to me that I've been taking for 10 years and had to appeal. This is nothing new and I didn't want to murder the CEO.

2. Healthcare is not a right, it's a privilege. Ideally in a perfect world, it should be a right, but it isn't. Not in America. UHC is a business. A business is out to make money. They are not obligated to pay for every treatment, surgery, and medication for every person. If you hate this fact, take it up with Uncle Sam, not Brian Thompson.

3. I suggest getting an understanding on why healthcare is so expensive in America. It's quite complicated and there are a lot of moving parts and factors involved. It isn't just the insurance companies. Hospitals jack up prices. Pharma companies charge out the ass. It would take a super lengthy post to go into more detail, but you can read about it yourself. There are other reasons outside of the insurance companies for why healthcare is the way it is in the US. And again, they are a business not a charity. They are not obligated to pay for everyone's care especially at the prices they are.

4. Saying one man at one company is responsible for someone sick and dying is absurd. At that point you might as well wish for the deaths of the CEO of fast food restaurants for supplying food that makes people sick and unhealthy.

5. UHC also supplies healthcare to people, don't forget. So I guess those who do have their medications and procedures covered by them don't count.

All you've established is you hate a man you don't know, don't know anything about, and just baselessly single him out as the cause of suffering in America.

 

[jason10mm]

Used to live in NJ. I could be from roughly where the assassination was to my apartment in under an hour.

Granted no car for this guy but yeah very ephemeral time to exit the city and once out of the city that’s bye bye

I'm guessing he had a change of clothes in that bag. Evade to get to a place he knows is well travelled but light on cameras, change the hoodie, then walk away to where he can get a ride out of town. Seems like all the public transportation is monitored (did he know folks can track the scooters/ebikes?) but if he had a car pre-positioned or a pick-up he could easily get away. But if he bought some stuff at Starbucks, even with cash, thats a description that will narrow down suspects significantly. If he had a phone he's toast. Hell, with enough interest from the NSA they can probably troll every phone and computer for key words, like the targets name, to figure out who did it.

Wouldn't surprise me if we get the shooters entire life story and every thing he did for DAYS before this shooting, while the Trump (would be) assassin is....just gone.

 

[JohnnyPhats]

1. He's a CEO of a large company. Lots of people and things go into these decisions. He doesn't just sit at a desk and reject these claims by himself, not how it works. All healthcare companies do this and reject a lot of claims. I just got a rejection letter for a medication that is vital to me that I've been taking for 10 years and had to appeal. This is nothing new and I didn't want to murder the CEO.

2. Healthcare is not a right, it's a privilege. Ideally in a perfect world, it should be a right, but it isn't. Not in America. UHC is a business. A business is out to make money. They are not obligated to pay for every treatment, surgery, and medication for every person. If you hate this fact, take it up with Uncle Sam, not Brian Thompson.

3. I suggest getting an understanding on why healthcare is so expensive in America. It's quite complicated and there are a lot of moving parts and factors involved. It isn't just the insurance companies. Hospitals jack up prices. Pharma companies charge out the ass. It would take a super lengthy post to go into more detail, but you can read about it yourself. There are other reasons outside of the insurance companies for why healthcare is the way it is in the US. And again, they are a business not a charity. They are not obligated to pay for everyone's care especially at the prices they are.

4. Saying one man at one company is responsible for someone sick and dying is absurd. At that point you might as well wish for the deaths of the CEO of fast food restaurants for supplying food that makes people sick and unhealthy.

5. UHC also supplies healthcare to people, don't forget. So I guess those who do have their medications and procedures covered by them don't count.

All you've established is you hate a man you don't know, don't know anything about, and just baselessly single him out as the cause of suffering in America.

Whatever man. CEO sets the tone and has control. But you say what you like to maintain your "moral high ground." It's alllllllllllmost like me and my family have been profoundly affected by pieces of shit like this.

I'm not done. This one is just for you.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

2. Healthcare is not a right, it's a privilege. Ideally in a perfect world, it should be a right, but it isn't. Not in America. UHC is a business. A business is out to make money. They are not obligated to pay for every treatment, surgery, and medication for every person. If you hate this fact, take it up with Uncle Sam, not Brian Thompson.

Man, if only there was a place where public healthcare results in a quality of care much higher while at the same time requiring way lower investment…

Crazy what living in America does to your brain.

 

[DragoonKain]

Whatever man. CEO sets the tone and has control. But you say what you like to maintain your "moral high ground." It's alllllllllllmost like me and my family have been profoundly affected by pieces of shit like this.

I'm not done. This one is just for you.

I have been profoundly affected by insurance companies as well. And I don't cheer on the murders of CEOs.

This man didn't kill anyone. I explained why and you just respond with "Whatever" because you want to stay outraged and unwilling to listen to logic and reason. Again, you just have anger issues, that's all this is.

 

[arkhamguy123]

I'm guessing he had a change of clothes in that bag. Evade to get to a place he knows is well travelled but light on cameras, change the hoodie, then walk away to where he can get a ride out of town. Seems like all the public transportation is monitored (did he know folks can track the scooters/ebikes?) but if he had a car pre-positioned or a pick-up he could easily get away. But if he bought some stuff at Starbucks, even with cash, thats a description that will narrow down suspects significantly. If he had a phone he's toast. Hell, with enough interest from the NSA they can probably troll every phone and computer for key words, like the targets name, to figure out who did it.

Wouldn't surprise me if we get the shooters entire life story and every thing he did for DAYS before this shooting, while the Trump (would be) assassin is....just gone.

People always overestimate the NSA and governments capabilities.

Edward Snowden showed us behind the curtain. It’s advanced but it’s not magic dude.

 

[JohnnyPhats]

I have been profoundly affected by insurance companies as well. And I don't cheer on the murders of CEOs.

This man didn't kill anyone. I explained why and you just respond with "Whatever" because you want to stay outraged and unwilling to listen to logic and reason. Again, you just have anger issues, that's all this is.

I see. You see me not upset by this and understanding why it happen and then can diagnose me as a whole from your phone or computer. You work for a health insurer?

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Whatever man. CEO sets the tone and has control. But you say what you like to maintain your "moral high ground." It's alllllllllllmost like me and my family have been profoundly affected by pieces of shit like this.

I'm not done. This one is just for you.

Yep, Thompson was a murderer on a massive scale.

 

[JohnnyPhats]

Yep, Thompson was a murderer on a massive scale.

But he wears expensive suits and talks well. It's okay.

 

[EviLore]

Tweet 'Not Found'.

Different jacket and backpack, but the Post says that the police retrieved the photos from the youth hostel he was staying at, so it could've been a different day with different gear. Unclear at this time whether they made a mistake in ID. NYPD tweet is still up.

Grinning suspect in UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s NYC execution unmasked in newly released pics

The NYPD has released new photos of the gunman who shot and killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, 50, on Wednesday outside the Hilton hotel in Midtown.

nypost.com

 

[DragoonKain]

Man, if only there was a place where public healthcare results in a quality of care much higher while at the same time requiring way lower investment…

Crazy what living in America does to your brain.

That was neither in defense or against the US healthcare system. It's just the reality of what it is. I personally have my issues with it and at times have been absolutely infuriated by it. But I've heard outrage stories from people in all different countries. Whether it's the UK or Canada. There is no perfect system. What's the best, I have no idea.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Different jacket and backpack, but the Post says that the police retrieved the photos from the youth hostel he was staying at, so it could've been a different day with different gear. Unclear at this time whether they made a mistake in ID. NYPD tweet is still up.

Grinning suspect in UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s NYC execution unmasked in newly released pics

The NYPD has released new photos of the gunman who shot and killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, 50, on Wednesday outside the Hilton hotel in Midtown.

nypost.com

All of NYC.

 

[jason10mm]

People always overestimate the NSA and governments capabilities.

Edward Snowden showed us behind the curtain. It’s advanced but it’s not magic dude.

Spoken like a true NSA plant

 

[Jenov]

Why is a hospital charging 500 k for brain surgery isn’t that scamming insurance companies ?? Half a million to stay in a hospital for three weeks no wonder insurance companies would try hard to deny that claim u gotta cap these hospitals

Because apparently an ICU room alone was something like 10-12k per day and the surgery and multiple other doctors, anesthesia, MRIs and scans were like 200k, lol.

That may not even be the worst part. A lot of people say that’s the price we pay for how “advanced and great” our health system is and because we don’t have to wait for care… well get this, she had to WAIT at the smaller hospital until there was room at any of the larger hospitals! Literally had her sit on a waiting list almost a full day, bleeding out in her brain and dying, waiting for the first ICU/neurosurgery bed available (this was during the later end of Covid too). Crazy shit.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

There is no perfect system. What's the best, I have no idea.

Explain to me exactly how US healthcare system is more beneficial to patients?

 

[DragoonKain]

Explain to me exactly how US healthcare system is more beneficial to patients?

I don't claim to be the world's foremost expert on all things healthcare, but I will throw out some things that are good about the US healthcare system in my estimation:

Being a system that incentivizes profit also incentivizes innovation. Many times(but not always) the US is at the forefront of medical innovation.

It has some of the best doctors and hospitals in the world because of the above. They get paid a lot of money compared to most countries. It incentivizes bright minds to get into medicine and even come from other countries to practice medicine here.

America offers more choice and options than other countries.

Quality of care is high.

Wait times are shorter than Canada in most instances.

 

[DeVeAn]

Doctors where I'm at are just educated (sometimes) guessers. Like how a tech fixes a computer. Best thing you can do is take care of your health to avoid the hospitals.

 

[Billbofet]

Dude looks like Timothy Chalamet

 

[ResilientBanana]

Explain to me exactly how US healthcare system is more beneficial to patients?

It's not, we still have long wait times for professional care for more dire diseases. We just pay out the ass for it for the sake of not being a socialist country and everyone is ok with that due to their american pride.

 

[Melon Husk]

Dude looks like Timothy Chalamet

Netflix movie adaptation by Christmas

 

[EviLore]

Netflix movie adaptation by Christmas

Cover of Rolling Stone within eight hours

 

[Dural]

Explain to me exactly how US healthcare system is more beneficial to patients?

I'm not sure how it works where you are, but we have the choice with our insurance to go wherever the hell we want for care. If I'm having a major surgery I can choose to use the local hospital, or I can go to Chicago to one of the highly rated hospitals, or go to Madison to UW, or go to Minnesota to Mayo. Our deductible for a family of 6 is only $1200 with no copays on anything and it's 90/10 after the deductible is met.

edit-Also, if you're poor and on Medicaid you pay pretty much nothing for all care for you and your kids (medical, dental, and vision).

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Different jacket and backpack, but the Post says that the police retrieved the photos from the youth hostel he was staying at, so it could've been a different day with different gear. Unclear at this time whether they made a mistake in ID. NYPD tweet is still up.

Grinning suspect in UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s NYC execution unmasked in newly released pics

The NYPD has released new photos of the gunman who shot and killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, 50, on Wednesday outside the Hilton hotel in Midtown.

nypost.com

Much appreciated Boss

 

[Billbofet]

Netflix movie adaptation by Christmas

To be cast as a female POC

 

[EviLore]

He’s not gonna make it.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Dude looks like Timothy Chalamet

 

[JohnnyPhats]

Different jacket and backpack, but the Post says that the police retrieved the photos from the youth hostel he was staying at, so it could've been a different day with different gear. Unclear at this time whether they made a mistake in ID. NYPD tweet is still up.

Grinning suspect in UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s NYC execution unmasked in newly released pics

The NYPD has released new photos of the gunman who shot and killed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, 50, on Wednesday outside the Hilton hotel in Midtown.

nypost.com

When are the girls (and liberal men) gonna start the fan club?

 

[SlimySnake]

How did they not catch him within 5 minutes? He was shot in midtown. There's a camera and a cop on like every corner.

NYPD is completely incompetent and full of corrupt cops.

Just a few months ago there was a story about how one of the detectives had his car towed for missing payments. He arrested the tow truck driver instead and charged him with a bunch of felonies for just doing his job.

 

[12Goblins]

1. He's a CEO of a large company. Lots of people and things go into these decisions. He doesn't just sit at a desk and reject these claims by himself, not how it works. All healthcare companies do this and reject a lot of claims. I just got a rejection letter for a medication that is vital to me that I've been taking for 10 years and had to appeal. This is nothing new and I didn't want to murder the CEO.

2. Healthcare is not a right, it's a privilege. Ideally in a perfect world, it should be a right, but it isn't. Not in America. UHC is a business. A business is out to make money. They are not obligated to pay for every treatment, surgery, and medication for every person. If you hate this fact, take it up with Uncle Sam, not Brian Thompson.

3. I suggest getting an understanding on why healthcare is so expensive in America. It's quite complicated and there are a lot of moving parts and factors involved. It isn't just the insurance companies. Hospitals jack up prices. Pharma companies charge out the ass. It would take a super lengthy post to go into more detail, but you can read about it yourself. There are other reasons outside of the insurance companies for why healthcare is the way it is in the US. And again, they are a business not a charity. They are not obligated to pay for everyone's care especially at the prices they are.

4. Saying one man at one company is responsible for someone sick and dying is absurd. At that point you might as well wish for the deaths of the CEO of fast food restaurants for supplying food that makes people sick and unhealthy.

5. UHC also supplies healthcare to people, don't forget. So I guess those who do have their medications and procedures covered by them don't count.

All you've established is you hate a man you don't know, don't know anything about, and just baselessly single him out as the cause of suffering in America.

Brother I know what you're saying, but this guy's job is literally looking at the coverage denial %'s and coming up with ways to increase that number while keeping it all legally inbounds. All CEOs do this, which is reason why socio/psychopaths thrive in these positions because they are not bogged down by the well-being of others. It works well in other domains, but we run into a lot of social problems if we do it with healthcare.

 

[8bitpill]