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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 Offseason Thread
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How people watch a show like this on an ipad is beyond me.
Dick Crabb was one of my top ten favorite characters in the series, honestly. His brief appearance is so memorable and one of the highlights of AFFC.
Not really that spoilery.
elrechazado
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wasting your time with the guy, but a valiant effort
Yeah, can't be really anything else.
Though she looks quite tall. But it's too slim for Hodor.
That's not true. In the show, Stannis sentences Davos to death. Melisandre orders Davos taken away. Davos makes a plea, Stannis is intrigued. Davos shows the letter. Stannis reads the letter despite Melisandre's protest.
EDIT: Also, I remember Stannis' scene with Davos in the cells, before he released him. He seemed to clearly be conflicted about killing Gendry.
joliefaire
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Are you sure? Mel definitely goes to her flames at some point.
Ah now I remember. Davos reads the letter, and Stannis ignores him, until Mel looks in her flames and says the true battle is in the north.
Gonna watch the scene to be sure.
Edit: Yep, Stannis says "I've made my decision" after getting the letter and reading it, then Mel cuts him off as he is about to carry on with it and says "he's right" and Stannis even says "You've been save by that fire god", clearly indicating it is Mel who instigates sparing Davos.
joliefaire
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Just saw that Cineplex Canada is playing the final episode in big-screen theaters. How cool would that be?
http://www.cineplex.com/Promos/GameofThrones
http://www.cineplex.com/Promos/GameofThrones
Stannis reads the letter, then gives it to Mel. Davos tells him to fight in the North, Stannis stands firm to his original decision, then Mel tells him the same. Like I said, the main difference is that in the show the decision is made after both Davos and Melisandre sell Stannis on it.
I will agree though that on the show Stannis feels much more preoccupied with going to the Wall to win the throne, as opposed to doing it out of some sense of duty. But as I said earlier, I always felt that the throne was the chief motivator of his actions.
Well then I (and presumably everyone else here) disagree on his motivations in the book. Seems to me you misunderstood his quotes after he gets to the wall. Still, it's not set in stone what the meaning of those quotes are so I'm not gonna have a go at you for having a different interpretation. Though it seems you just think Stannis is shit in the book and the show rather than good in the show.
Stannis is actually one of my favorite characters. I just don't think his motivations are purely noble.
How disappointed were you with last week's episode? Specifically that Stannis wasn't present at all. It was the one thing I was looking forward to in the episode and they instead ended 10 minutes early :/.
Morrigan Stark
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Me too. Qhorin has barely any actual chapter appearances, but he's very memorable, and his bonding with Jon Snow when they travel north of the Wall is incredible stuff, so well written. It made his death really poignant too. Along with Syrio and Oberyn, he's one of those secondary characters who technically have 2-3 chapters of page time at the most but are so memorable that they're among my favourites (I guess their awesome death scenes add to that, heh).
Jon bonding with Qhorin made him grow as a person and as a brother of the Night Watch, and his teachings really resonate with Jon later too, much like Arya so fondly remembers Syrio and his teachings. Good stuff. The TV show nailed the Syrio part, but completely dropped the ball with Qhorin. And surprise surprise, the Syrio/Arya parts are straight from the books instead of deviating...
I was hoping for it, but it wasn't too much of a big deal. Though it's a great moment, I liked Stannis before that scene, and after that scene, for his stern (and often funny) demeanor. Nothing makes me happier than reading how clenched a character's jaw is.
TONIGHT:
BELIEVE
I really don't know why people are clamoring for LSH. Was the worst part of the books for me when she showed up.
I kinda agree. However, I'm looking forward to my friend's reactions who haven't read the books.
Yeah I have to say how they handled the Wall stuff is really poor on the show. It stands out compared to how well King's Landing and Tyrion have been handled so far.
Jon Snow is what around 20 years old? He's still unsure of himself and how he fits in at Castle Black. Journeying beyond the Wall, getting to know the wildlings after having to kill a mentor-like figure because he's essentially forced to is very important to his character growth. Halfhand is an important part of that growth, he gives him confidence and shows him that there are people in roles that trust that he'll do the right thing when he has to.
To be honest I don't really get it either he doesn't really do anything of note other then get captured, tell Jon to infiltrate the Wildlings and die.
Which he did wonderfully on the show.
Right. Still not a particularly interesting character, but you certainly have shown how the character serves a purpose. One that I thought the show did a fine job conveying.
DrForester
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There's less impact when we don't know what type of person the Halfhand is firsthand. I think the book conveys that way more, and to be fair, it's way easier for a written work to do so.
How is that a valiant effort? It's straight up wrong. Melisandre actually tries to get rid of Davos before he reads it and protests by saying "My king..." as he accepts the letter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o8BUlj6LEU
What kind of person is Halfhand? Tough? Badass? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but everyone we really learn about his is service to the Watch, right? This isn't some layered character we're talking about here.
The spoiler is that Tyrion dies and turns into a Wright. No Tywin death, no Shae.
A tiny little wight, they'll call him snowflake
RatskyWatsky
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m_shortpants
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That image above:
Jk I know he's not in the show.
coldhands confirmed.
Jk I know he's not in the show.
After tyrion does the deed he should look right at the camera and say "happy fathers day"
joliefaire
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Eh, I think I'll just wait for the episode.
A funny thing about that leaked still, its from a Reddit user named LH031073. Probably just a coincidence that Lena Headey's birthdate is 03 Oct 73. Coincidence, amirite?
It's subtle, but the fact that he was good friends with Mance Rayder before he deserted is interesting to me. Kinda highlights the choice that Jon has to make.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
What kind of leaker leaks Meera vs. Wight instead of Stoneheart or Tywin on the toilet or Shae being strangled? That's some A-level trolling.
He was dedicated to his duty in a way no other character has been. Even if he hadn't allowed himself to be killed by Jon Snow for the good of the watch, he was ascetic and known to be one of the most talented rangers. He's a "true black brother", in the way that many characters discuss "true knights". He exemplifies all the characters of a good man of the watch, in his bravery, inventiveness, leadership, and intelligence. And the "half a hand" thing is pretty cool, too.
peanutbutterlatte
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If LSH occurs, do you think she'll have a translator due to her throat injury or if she'll just have a gnarled, husky voice?
-Pyromaniac-
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She'll probably look the same with a light scar on the neck and a label sticker that says "dead" on her chest.
joliefaire
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The leaker said he/she got tempted and accessed the episode on Canada's On Demand just to see if it worked, but then just watched for a couple minutes and turned it off. He/she had promised the BFF that they'd watch it together.
I assume this is a sarcastic quip associated with how poor of a 'scar' Tyrion has?
In the books she has a couple of audible lines.
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Yep. That and this thread's assumption that every single important thing from the book will be ruined on the show in some way
Morrigan Stark
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It's like I'm on ignore or something. Anyway, what did you like about Arianne exactly? Her hotness? Her nakedness?
I prefer "her tittiness".
But I would never say Arianne is a great character (yet). She's certainly a more interesting, fleshed out one than Qhorin Halfhand though.
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