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Lol, that's amazing. I suppose I was talking out of my ass a bit.
Basileus777
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It would be pretty cool to go into this show and be able to experience it just like an unsullied. I wouldn't wish for a GRRM delay for it, but I'm not sure it'd even be necessary, he's good enough at managing that on his own.
Lord Couture
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We have a summary of 5x01 from a poster on WOTW who was there yesterday. He's legit.
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First Scene: Cersei and girl walk into Maggys hut. (Young Cersei is brilliant btw). After Cersei demands her to, Maggy answers her 3 questions. She says that Cersei will be queen (until one younger and more beautiful replaces her), that she will have no children with the king but that hell have 20, and that her children will die (The scene uses the line about shrouds from the books)
Transition to: Current Cersei. She walks up the steps, after dissing the High Septon. Tywin is laid out in the Sept of Baelor. No mention of Shae. Her and Jaime talk about Tywin. She says Jaime killed him accidentally through his own stupidity, and at least Tyrion did it on purpose.
Next scene: POV of Tyrion looking through crate. Crate is unloaded, Tyrion and Varys talk. Tyrion is shaken, and starts drinking. Varys speaks about his and Illyrio;s allegiances, since he remarks they are at his home. Tyrion throws up his wine, then drinks some more
After this the order gets real hazy for me, cant quite remember since I didnt take any notes. Ill go story line by story line.
THE WALL. First Scene: Jon practices with Olly in the yard. Sam chats with Gilly about Stannis, then a weakened Thorne comes out complaining about the weakness of the recruits. Melisandre comes down and tells Jon to meet Stannis on the Wall. On the way up, Jon asks Melisandre about the cold. She says she doesnt feel it. She then asks him if hes a virgin. When he says no, she says good. Cue heroic shot of Stannis and Davos looking out over the Wall. Stannis says he wants the Wildlings to help him take back the North, and that Jon has till nightfall to persuade Mance to bend the knee, or he will be burnt.
Second Scene. Jon pleads with Mance to consider bending the knee, but Mance refuses on the grounds that none of the Wildlings will respect him, and that it is against all he believes in. Mance says that Stannis would be a good King in this scene.
Third Scene. Mance is led out. He tells Stannis good luck in the Wars to Come. He is burnt. Jon shoots him with an arrow before he starts screaming. I believe this is the final scene of the episode.
THE VALE. First scene. LF, Sansa and Royce watch Robyn train, remarking how pathetic he is. LF thanks Royce for keeping Robyn.
Second Scene. Brienne is cleaning her sword. She gets mad at Pod for his questions, says she isnt a knight, and that their are no Lords worth protecting anymore.
Third Scene. A convoy of Vale Knights with a carriage passes Brienne and Pod. Within, Petyr says they are going far away from Cersei Lannister and her grasp.
MEEREEN. First sequence. The statue of the Harpy is toppled. At the foot, an Unsullied takes of his helmet and smiles. We then see him going into a brothel. He pays a woman, who then lies next to him, caressing him and singing him a lullaby. His throat is then cut, and we see the whore and a man in a golden mask standing over him. Learning of this, Dany tells the Unsullied to patrol the street. Missendei goes to Grey Worm and asks why an Unsullied would go to a brothel. He hesitates and then says that he doesnt know.
Second Sequence. Hizdahr and Daario return. Hizdahr tells Dany to reopen the fighting pits, she refuses. He remarks that Yunkai gave into all their demands and installed a sort of democratic council. In bed together. Daario tells her she should open the fighting pits, and talks about how he used to fight in them after being sold to them as a child. He also tells her to reunite with her Children. Dany goes into the vault, but Viserys and Rhaegal snap and shoot fire at her. She runs away.
KINGS LANDING. Scene 2. Loras tries to give a eulogy for Tywin to Cersei, but she leaves him. She notices Lancel, who now has short hair and is wearing robes. She speaks to Kevan about Tywin, and he apologises for Lancels newfound piety. Lancel comes to Cersei later and apologises for tempting her sexually, and offers to pray for Tywins soul. He also pointedly apologises for his role in Roberts death.
PENTOS. Scene 2. This is the scene from the trailer. Varys tells Tyrion to join him in his quest to help Daenerys rather then killing himself with drink. Tyrion agrees.
Transition to: Current Cersei. She walks up the steps, after dissing the High Septon. Tywin is laid out in the Sept of Baelor. No mention of Shae. Her and Jaime talk about Tywin. She says Jaime killed him accidentally through his own stupidity, and at least Tyrion did it on purpose.
Next scene: POV of Tyrion looking through crate. Crate is unloaded, Tyrion and Varys talk. Tyrion is shaken, and starts drinking. Varys speaks about his and Illyrio;s allegiances, since he remarks they are at his home. Tyrion throws up his wine, then drinks some more
After this the order gets real hazy for me, cant quite remember since I didnt take any notes. Ill go story line by story line.
THE WALL. First Scene: Jon practices with Olly in the yard. Sam chats with Gilly about Stannis, then a weakened Thorne comes out complaining about the weakness of the recruits. Melisandre comes down and tells Jon to meet Stannis on the Wall. On the way up, Jon asks Melisandre about the cold. She says she doesnt feel it. She then asks him if hes a virgin. When he says no, she says good. Cue heroic shot of Stannis and Davos looking out over the Wall. Stannis says he wants the Wildlings to help him take back the North, and that Jon has till nightfall to persuade Mance to bend the knee, or he will be burnt.
Second Scene. Jon pleads with Mance to consider bending the knee, but Mance refuses on the grounds that none of the Wildlings will respect him, and that it is against all he believes in. Mance says that Stannis would be a good King in this scene.
Third Scene. Mance is led out. He tells Stannis good luck in the Wars to Come. He is burnt. Jon shoots him with an arrow before he starts screaming. I believe this is the final scene of the episode.
THE VALE. First scene. LF, Sansa and Royce watch Robyn train, remarking how pathetic he is. LF thanks Royce for keeping Robyn.
Second Scene. Brienne is cleaning her sword. She gets mad at Pod for his questions, says she isnt a knight, and that their are no Lords worth protecting anymore.
Third Scene. A convoy of Vale Knights with a carriage passes Brienne and Pod. Within, Petyr says they are going far away from Cersei Lannister and her grasp.
MEEREEN. First sequence. The statue of the Harpy is toppled. At the foot, an Unsullied takes of his helmet and smiles. We then see him going into a brothel. He pays a woman, who then lies next to him, caressing him and singing him a lullaby. His throat is then cut, and we see the whore and a man in a golden mask standing over him. Learning of this, Dany tells the Unsullied to patrol the street. Missendei goes to Grey Worm and asks why an Unsullied would go to a brothel. He hesitates and then says that he doesnt know.
Second Sequence. Hizdahr and Daario return. Hizdahr tells Dany to reopen the fighting pits, she refuses. He remarks that Yunkai gave into all their demands and installed a sort of democratic council. In bed together. Daario tells her she should open the fighting pits, and talks about how he used to fight in them after being sold to them as a child. He also tells her to reunite with her Children. Dany goes into the vault, but Viserys and Rhaegal snap and shoot fire at her. She runs away.
KINGS LANDING. Scene 2. Loras tries to give a eulogy for Tywin to Cersei, but she leaves him. She notices Lancel, who now has short hair and is wearing robes. She speaks to Kevan about Tywin, and he apologises for Lancels newfound piety. Lancel comes to Cersei later and apologises for tempting her sexually, and offers to pray for Tywins soul. He also pointedly apologises for his role in Roberts death.
PENTOS. Scene 2. This is the scene from the trailer. Varys tells Tyrion to join him in his quest to help Daenerys rather then killing himself with drink. Tyrion agrees.
Some interesting points (SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS of course):
-No mention of Valonqar/Little Brother in Cersei's flashback. Either they cut that part or they'll continue the flashback later (they did mention they were flashbacks this season).
-"that she will have no children with the king" I guess D&D forgot they added Cersei's black hair child in season 1? =/
-Seems like they're still using Loras for some bad comic relief... sigh.
-That Mel&Jon dialogue looks terrible.
-Dany is the advocate for democracy now? What?!?!?!?!
-The Battle of Meereen probably won't happen in the show universe.
-I don't see them using glamors, so I guess Mance is really dead. What a waste of a good character (and a good actor, although he doesn't fit BookMance's role). However, if they want to keep Mance around, I could see Mel resurrecting Mance ala Thoros&Beric since she met them in the show.
-"that she will have no children with the king" I guess D&D forgot they added Cersei's black hair child in season 1? =/
-Seems like they're still using Loras for some bad comic relief... sigh.
-That Mel&Jon dialogue looks terrible.
-Dany is the advocate for democracy now? What?!?!?!?!
-The Battle of Meereen probably won't happen in the show universe.
-I don't see them using glamors, so I guess Mance is really dead. What a waste of a good character (and a good actor, although he doesn't fit BookMance's role). However, if they want to keep Mance around, I could see Mel resurrecting Mance ala Thoros&Beric since she met them in the show.
Basileus777
Member
That sounds in line with what we already know.
Ciaran Hinds has been underused from the beginning. Writing him out from here is in line with how they've already used him.
Sadly, I think it's pretty likely that
And I'm disappointed about
We won't see a Battle of Meereen in the show. Victarion is cut, Barristan will probably be killed off prematurely, and
it looks like Tyrion and Dany meet already this season but for how long?
And I'm disappointed about
Mance. I think there's no chance that they do the glamour in the show, regardless of whether or not Rattleshirt is still around.
Basileus777
Member
Well Victarion wasn't even a character until he decided to indulge himself and bloat the series post-ASOS.
bengraven
Member
George is probably like: "I meant to kill him off, but now that people think I added him to inflate the word count, I suppose I'll let him live a while longer".
He and Damp-hair were briefly in ACOK.
Basileus777
Member
I'm exaggerating. The point is that he wasn't significant until then. And he could have easily remained that way.
Regarding the Spoilers:
Me either. Pretty underwhelmed.
Ciaran Hinds was so utterly wasted on this show... And Mance was a non-entity of a character. Why did they even bother with that casting and promoting his paltry number of appearances if they weren't going to keep him around for the whole glamour-thing?
Man, so disappointed..
Man, so disappointed..
Me either. Pretty underwhelmed.
Spoilers for everything, season 5 episode 1 and Winds preview chapters:
The books set up all the conflict with Meereen that needed to be resolved, and gave Barristan needed character development. Also, it needed to get Dany out of there and to the Dothraki to fulfil some of the prophecy it set up back in Clash. The show didn't have any prophecy about returning to the Dothraki, they're writing to quickly remove Yunkai as a threat, and they don't really care about Barristan's development. Instead, they'll probably kill him off early, have her meet Tyrion, and then have her decision to embrace her role as a conquering dragon or whatever happen in the Pit, when she just decides to burn the whole place down, instead of having it happen out in the desert with Drogon and the Dothraki. Then they can just send her to Westeros, no battle, no Dothraki arc.
Really it seems like almost everything we know is in the beginning of Winds is going to end up cut. It sounds like Battle of Ice is being restructured to fit in this season, Battle of Meereen is out, no time with the Dothraki, the Arianne chapters about negotiating with Aegon are gone, any Sansa Vale content is gone, Mercy is jumped up to this season, Iron Islands content is probably cut, though I guess it could still pop up in 6. All that is probably going to help them rush to whatever the climax of Winds is by the end of season 6.
And yeah, even if they just start randomly killing off all their underutilized characters, I don't think anyone will be able to pass Mance for most underutilized. He makes Barristan and Yara and the Brotherhood characters seem like loving, fully realized adaptations in comparison. A real waste.
Really it seems like almost everything we know is in the beginning of Winds is going to end up cut. It sounds like Battle of Ice is being restructured to fit in this season, Battle of Meereen is out, no time with the Dothraki, the Arianne chapters about negotiating with Aegon are gone, any Sansa Vale content is gone, Mercy is jumped up to this season, Iron Islands content is probably cut, though I guess it could still pop up in 6. All that is probably going to help them rush to whatever the climax of Winds is by the end of season 6.
And yeah, even if they just start randomly killing off all their underutilized characters, I don't think anyone will be able to pass Mance for most underutilized. He makes Barristan and Yara and the Brotherhood characters seem like loving, fully realized adaptations in comparison. A real waste.
bengraven
Member
I still think we might get it.
The Sons of the Harpy being in makes me think this - unless they resolve that completely through the arranged marriage, she still needs that one battle there to secure her rule. Otherwise, what's going to happen going forward? She gets Tyrion, she may accept Jorah back (unlikely). She gets married and calms the Harpies. But then what? Does she go, "Okay I'm ready to leave?" Are we going to get the Dothraki subplot that's being set up in Dance? She needs to tame the dragons, but what happens in the mean time?
What's Dany going to do this season is basically the bottom line and how is her play ending? A battle to secure her rule and to show what the dragons are capable of.
Pyramid head
Banned
The Sons of the Harpy are probably in just to give Grey Worm the heroic death that D&D probably think people will care about.
demosthenes
Member
I always interprerated
the black haired boy as a lie to c.stark to gain a little trust with her.
Cat could have asked Robert.
I bet the boy was real, but Cersei hated him and killed him with some help of Pycelle's medicine.
I bet the boy was real, but Cersei hated him and killed him with some help of Pycelle's medicine.
BobTheFork
Member
I was just going to post this myself. Not sure i need to spoiler this, but
we have an unreliable narrator of this tale, and there is no hint of it from any other character.
Trailers pretty clearly show a Harpy attack on the wedding though. So the marriage doesn't calm them. I see that being what makes her snap. She burns the whole place and leaves. It's a simpler and less interesting plot than what we get in the books, but it gets them to the same place. A much more ruthless Dany marching on Westeros.
Cersei mentions the kid again in private conversation with Robert. It totally exists in show canon. Not clear if it does naturally or if she killed it, but it definitely existed.
Lord Couture
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I actually think they'll kill off multiple characters this season who are not yet dead in the books: (Episode 1 and TWOW Spoilers):
Mance: Confirmed at this point I'd say. No way D&D would do the glamour thing.
Barristan: He will probably end up dying during the Battle of Meereen in the books so if the battle isn't happening in the show, then he doesn't really have a purpose anymore. Plus he isn't seen in the pit in one of the trailers.
Meryn Trant: Since he'll be in Braavos, he'll probably take Raft's place as the one killed by Arya. I think it will actually turn out to be a great scene though, probably in episode 10.
Sam: Like many have said, maybe he'll die protecting Jon during "For the Watch". But he's lived through so much and even if Oldtown is cut he still might play an important role later on so I'm still uncertain. Maybe Jon will send him to King's Landing or maybe he'll take Mance's role as the one sent to retreive (f)Arya, or even Sansa, from Winterfell.
Bronn: Many seem to think he'll fall to Hotah's ax in the Queenmaker Plot. Could go either way.
Yara: Who knows what her role is at this point if all the Greyjoy stuff is cut? Maybe they'll just kill her in Winterfell.
Jaime: Easily the most major character on this list and something that seems unlikely but if Stoneheart is cut as well as the Valonquar, maybe his days are numbered?
Barristan: He will probably end up dying during the Battle of Meereen in the books so if the battle isn't happening in the show, then he doesn't really have a purpose anymore. Plus he isn't seen in the pit in one of the trailers.
Meryn Trant: Since he'll be in Braavos, he'll probably take Raft's place as the one killed by Arya. I think it will actually turn out to be a great scene though, probably in episode 10.
Sam: Like many have said, maybe he'll die protecting Jon during "For the Watch". But he's lived through so much and even if Oldtown is cut he still might play an important role later on so I'm still uncertain. Maybe Jon will send him to King's Landing or maybe he'll take Mance's role as the one sent to retreive (f)Arya, or even Sansa, from Winterfell.
Bronn: Many seem to think he'll fall to Hotah's ax in the Queenmaker Plot. Could go either way.
Yara: Who knows what her role is at this point if all the Greyjoy stuff is cut? Maybe they'll just kill her in Winterfell.
Jaime: Easily the most major character on this list and something that seems unlikely but if Stoneheart is cut as well as the Valonquar, maybe his days are numbered?
Thanks, that does stir a dim memory. It seems I should probably give season one a rewatch and adjust my perception of show-Cersei versus book-Cersei. At least that will help get me through the next few weeks of waiting!
I think Grey Worm is at serious risk, and if they're going to expand For the Watch, I think basically every character at Castle Black is at risk. Sam, Edd, Tormund, Alisser, Selyse. They could really work any of them in there. It could be a complete massacre of they want it. And I think someone is going down at Winterfell. Stannis, Roose, Ramsay, Davos, I dunno. But someone.
Both. The whole siege with the Yunkish catapulting corpses, whatever Barristan does to break it, the arrival of the Ironborn. All of it. Pretty much everything that happens in a post-Daznak Barristan or Tyrion chapter.
The one at the end of ADWD and beginning of TWOW
Harpies vs Dany's army lead by Barristan with Victarion's army in the middle.
I forgot about
Greyworm. I think he's pretty much guaranteed at this point. And they'll make it way more dramatic than it needs to be. Maybe Ramsay will go down this season? I can't see Roose dying so soon. Or maybe they'll just have Littlefinger get Stannis killed and take over the Northern Resistance with Sansa.
pieatorium
Member
I could see them killing Myrcella rather than just injuring, theyre bringing in the prophecy/flashback for a reason.Would no doubt send Cersei off the deep end and drive a larger wedge between her and Jamie
BobTheFork
Member
You know, before now I took the 'gold will be their shrouds" to mean their cloaks. I don't know, I thought it meant 'They will be royalty and they will be considered Lanisters and never Baratheons'
Makes more sense this way I suppose. I hadn't really thought of it meaning she would live to see all her kids die.
Makes more sense this way I suppose. I hadn't really thought of it meaning she would live to see all her kids die.
Oh yeah, I could totally see them offing Myrcella and/or Tommen just because they probably feel like they have to pay off on the Maggy prophecy stuff this season.
One key difference is [EP1 spoilers]
he goes into it very peacefully, just making a glib remark towards Stannis vs. fake Mance begging for mercy and claiming not to be the king before being burned in the book. Of course, that doesn't prove anything for certain, but the whole glamour thing could be another aspect of the books dropped due to potential confusion. Kill off Mance, give Tormund more screen time, move on.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
That last sentence makes me really sad.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Just because the show is cutting something doesn't mean it's not "important" (whatever that even means...?) to the books. See: Jon Snow's character development, everything to do with the North, Lady Stoneheart, world building in general, etc. etc. etc.
Don't be ridic brah.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Hm? What do you mean?
The body count (of more important characters) is way down in the two books compared to the first three. AFFC/ADWD were originally never going to exist. We were just going to pick up after a time jump. Martin realized that was going to be a problem, and so we got these books that are essentially getting the main characters from Point A to Point B (where they'll all still be alive, of course.)
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Ah, I see what you mean now. Good point.
bodyofanamerican
Member
Why does everyone think
is omitted?
the battle of Meereen
No idea. There is no indication that there won't be a a battle just that it won't be this season or a battle for Winterfell for that matter.
Episode spoilers, and stuff from EW interviews:
Yunkai apparently capitulates completely to Dany's demands. No defiance from them, no siege. Also, it fits with the rumors that Barristan fits the profile of the actor EW interviewed who was dying early. No battle would mean they have to find a way to drop him early.
For starters,
judging by the Episode 1 details, it seems like in the show, Yunkai gives into Dany's demands and sets up a democratic system. And with Victarion and Brown Ben being cut, along with a possible Barristan death during the season, most of the content for the battle is gone. They might just finish up the Sons of the Harpy storyline during Daznak's Pit since it looks like
Tyrion and Dany meet there/before there and there appears to be a showdown there with the SOTH without Barristan in one of the trailers
hydrophilic attack
Member
But this could be misdirection? Some kind of treachery by Yunkai to get her off her guard. I just don't see them earnestly capitulating and agreeing to set up a democratic system. It feels very implausible to me.
joliefaire
Neo Member
An interesting post from someone at another board. Some show fans, like this one, meticulously follow news and leaks from the film sets as the seasons are being filmed, keeping track of who's there, who's not, how many days the major actors spend at each site, etc. etc.
Anyway,
This isn't a spoiler, since its a fan theory, but its a well-reasoned deduction, so I'll put it in spoiler tags anyway. Just thought some might enjoy.
I hope this isn't true
but this reasoning seems sound. Your thoughts?
Anyway,
this poster came up with his/her theory about whose death at the end of Ep.3 is going to 'freak book readers out.' Obviously, we know there will be deaths as the season goes on (there always are!), but as D&D begin working toward an end game, more and more of the named players will have to die, and this Season 5 seems to be replete with those deaths.
This isn't a spoiler, since its a fan theory, but its a well-reasoned deduction, so I'll put it in spoiler tags anyway. Just thought some might enjoy.
Well concerning that episode 3 ending which will freak book readers out, and if it involves a character's death, not in the books. The options based on filming scenes, lack of the actor in scenes that will definitely be in latter episodes, story arcs cut that will greatly affect the characters importance, are very few. Furthermore there are the earlier rumors/quotes that a character dies in just about each episode, including a few major/supporting that will startle readers.
First who we know are in the latter half of the season, based on filmed scenes, trailers, and rumors.
Wall: Stannis, Mel, Davos, Jon, Sam, Edd, Aliser, Ollie, Tormund, Rattleshirt, Val hybrid
North: Roose, Reek, Walda, Myranda, LF, Sansa, Yara
K.L.: Cersei, Tommen, Margaery, Kevan, Lancel, Pycelle, Qyburn, Mountain, Loras, Olleana, High Sparrow
Dorne: Doran, Jaime, Bronn, Ellaria, Areo, Myrcella, Trystane, Obara, Nym, Tyene
Merreen: Dany, Missandei, Daario, Barristan, Greyworm, Hizdahr
Braavos: Arya, Mace, Trant, Jaq/KM
Travels: Brienne, Pod, Jorah, Tyrion
Now who appears absent from scenes that were filmed for the latter half of the season, that we know of.
Mance (we know what happens now), Shireen, Selyse, Varys, Robyn, Gilly
Episode 3 is too early for Shireen, the only way this would occur if Stannis needs power for Battle of Ice, later in the season, Selyse wouldn't upset readers, Robyn likewise, therefore only Gilly and Varys would cause an uproar. We know the plot about the baby switch is out and if D&D cut Sam's trip to Oldtown, Gilly serves no purpose anymore for the main story. With Vary's, he was notably absent from scenes filmed in Osuna, Spain, also, he was not present on the Sorrows boat with Jorah and Tyrion from leaked photos. With Griff cut, and him notably absent from K.L. after Tywin/Tyrion business, he cannot return there overtly. Therefore his only purpose left in the books is the epilogue. Therefore only Gilly and Varys fit the bill for a wtf moment.
First who we know are in the latter half of the season, based on filmed scenes, trailers, and rumors.
Wall: Stannis, Mel, Davos, Jon, Sam, Edd, Aliser, Ollie, Tormund, Rattleshirt, Val hybrid
North: Roose, Reek, Walda, Myranda, LF, Sansa, Yara
K.L.: Cersei, Tommen, Margaery, Kevan, Lancel, Pycelle, Qyburn, Mountain, Loras, Olleana, High Sparrow
Dorne: Doran, Jaime, Bronn, Ellaria, Areo, Myrcella, Trystane, Obara, Nym, Tyene
Merreen: Dany, Missandei, Daario, Barristan, Greyworm, Hizdahr
Braavos: Arya, Mace, Trant, Jaq/KM
Travels: Brienne, Pod, Jorah, Tyrion
Now who appears absent from scenes that were filmed for the latter half of the season, that we know of.
Mance (we know what happens now), Shireen, Selyse, Varys, Robyn, Gilly
Episode 3 is too early for Shireen, the only way this would occur if Stannis needs power for Battle of Ice, later in the season, Selyse wouldn't upset readers, Robyn likewise, therefore only Gilly and Varys would cause an uproar. We know the plot about the baby switch is out and if D&D cut Sam's trip to Oldtown, Gilly serves no purpose anymore for the main story. With Vary's, he was notably absent from scenes filmed in Osuna, Spain, also, he was not present on the Sorrows boat with Jorah and Tyrion from leaked photos. With Griff cut, and him notably absent from K.L. after Tywin/Tyrion business, he cannot return there overtly. Therefore his only purpose left in the books is the epilogue. Therefore only Gilly and Varys fit the bill for a wtf moment.
I hope this isn't true
I LOVE Varys!
There's no way that
Simple:
Varys dies this season. Him disappearing would be completely in line with the books, providing a big shock at the end of the season when he kills Kevan and Pycelle. Where's Ramsay on the list?
Simple:
1) Introduce Sons of the Harpy
2) Poorly Written Dany Monologues
3) Greyworm Love Story
4) CGI Dragon Encounter
5) Brief Harpy Attacks
6) Greyworm Love Story
7) Dany Marriage Arrangements
8) Greyworm Love Story
9) Re-opening the fighting pits
10) DAZNAK'S PIT GET HYPE NOW WITH TYRION AND JORAH
11) Greyworm Love Story
12) Dragons Released
13) Greyworm Love Story
14) Greyworm Dies
15) BURN EVERYTHING
16) Uh head to Westeros now?
Throw in Barristan's death and at least 6-7 more poorly written Dany monologues and you have Season 5: Meereen Edition!
2) Poorly Written Dany Monologues
3) Greyworm Love Story
4) CGI Dragon Encounter
5) Brief Harpy Attacks
6) Greyworm Love Story
7) Dany Marriage Arrangements
8) Greyworm Love Story
9) Re-opening the fighting pits
10) DAZNAK'S PIT GET HYPE NOW WITH TYRION AND JORAH
11) Greyworm Love Story
12) Dragons Released
13) Greyworm Love Story
14) Greyworm Dies
15) BURN EVERYTHING
16) Uh head to Westeros now?
Throw in Barristan's death and at least 6-7 more poorly written Dany monologues and you have Season 5: Meereen Edition!
Incandenza
Banned
What the fuck do you do in Meereen for a whole season if you don't have a war with Yunkai? They know how much shit that storyline gets; it's hard to believe they would give Dany less to do.
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